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Metro is great, now if only we can abolish all file management and use itunes universally! Second best program ever made after Metro!
I think with tech we missed the point. The real question is "what do you really need?". I'm an average user using PC for browsing and gaming. I will buy a new PC when I won't be satisfied with it's perfomance.
I moved from XP to Win7 when dx11 wasn't supported in XP. Still there is XP in my laptop because I don't really need something more. Lately I'm using Linux Mint on a second drive for all tasks, except gaming, and find it great and with big community support. Win8 don't offer something new that I can't find it somewhere else and would make me want to use it.
My point is think first what you really need and then spend your money where you really should.
I moved from XP to Win7 when dx11 wasn't supported in XP. Still there is XP in my laptop because I don't really need something more. Lately I'm using Linux Mint on a second drive for all tasks, except gaming, and find it great and with big community support. Win8 don't offer something new that I can't find it somewhere else and would make me want to use it.
My point is think first what you really need and then spend your money where you really should.
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I'm surprised to still see these B/S stories. Windows 8 is a solid platform. To not use it because of metro is downright stupid. I barely ever use that section and never really have to! Why? Because I'm not incompetent. I know how to use file explorer. I know how to use the quick launch.
What gains are there going to Windows 8? It's been stated several hundred times that the OS itself is significantly faster and less bloated than 7. Anyone still using XP is on their own. I'm sorry, it was great FOR IT'S TIME but now it's outdated.
I'm beginning to see a trend here though with the H8 (sorry I had to) almost all these opinions are based on losers who have never used the OS. I've had ZERO compatibility issues with the exception of AMD drivers for my GPU which I actually took care of last night. Other than that, It's been nothing but a positive experience.
I think it's time Tom's community pull it's head out of it's ignorant a**.
What gains are there going to Windows 8? It's been stated several hundred times that the OS itself is significantly faster and less bloated than 7. Anyone still using XP is on their own. I'm sorry, it was great FOR IT'S TIME but now it's outdated.
I'm beginning to see a trend here though with the H8 (sorry I had to) almost all these opinions are based on losers who have never used the OS. I've had ZERO compatibility issues with the exception of AMD drivers for my GPU which I actually took care of last night. Other than that, It's been nothing but a positive experience.
I think it's time Tom's community pull it's head out of it's ignorant a**.
Here here Metro is better than life itself. God bless you Metro, and god bless Julie Larson-Green. Metro will become more important than the UK eventually.
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[citation][nom]kirbykiller[/nom]windows 8 works better than windows 7 once you delete the metro apps and add a shutdown shortcut. I can't believe no ones figured this out.[/citation] then why'd bother with Windows 8. Sounds like you have a Windows 7 system then. windows 8 is butt ugly. other than a better task manager, a copy window and the return of the up button since Windows 98; that is all windows 8 has to offer. Not worth $40 for all the crap that is windows 8. Had they tweaked the UI look and left out metro completely then 8 would be a worthy upgrade over 7.
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[citation][nom]snowzsan[/nom]I'm surprised to still see these B/S stories. Windows 8 is a solid platform. To not use it because of metro is downright stupid. I barely ever use that section and never really have to! Why? Because I'm not incompetent. I know how to use file explorer. I know how to use the quick launch.What gains are there going to Windows 8? It's been stated several hundred times that the OS itself is significantly faster and less bloated than 7.[/citation] We have a right to not have to buy windows 8, your right to beat a complete idiot. very few people have complained about the stability of 8.performance wise when 8 is no faster than Windows 7. What data to do you have that show sys? Other than enough which is a hybrid to process that is it. My when was the date computer boots up in 20 seconds with an SSD guess what who cares especially since I'm reading my machine once every 2 or 3 weeks
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[citation][nom]snowzsan[/nom]I'm surprised to still see these B/S stories. Windows 8 is a solid platform. To not use it because of metro is downright stupid. I barely ever use that section and never really have to! Why? Because I'm not incompetent. I know how to use file explorer. I know how to use the quick launch.What gains are there going to Windows 8? It's been stated several hundred times that the OS itself is significantly faster and less bloated than 7. Anyone still using XP is on their own. I'm sorry, it was great FOR IT'S TIME but now it's outdated.I'm beginning to see a trend here though with the H8 (sorry I had to) almost all these opinions are based on losers who have never used the OS. I've had ZERO compatibility issues with the exception of AMD drivers for my GPU which I actually took care of last night. Other than that, It's been nothing but a positive experience.I think it's time Tom's community pull it's head out of it's ignorant a**.[/citation]
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[citation][nom]belardo[/nom]We have a right to not have to buy windows 8, your right to beat a complete idiot. very few people have complained about the stability of 8.performance wise when 8 is no faster than Windows 7. What data to do you have that show sys? Other than enough which is a hybrid to process that is it. My when was the date computer boots up in 20 seconds with an SSD guess what who cares especially since I'm reading my machine once every 2 or 3 weeks[/citation]
I'm just pointing out it's not as bad as what most people say.
I'm just pointing out it's not as bad as what most people say.
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RealBeast:
"The market research firm estimated total unit shipments at 90.3 million, down 4.9 percent from Q4 2011, which saw shipments of 95.0 million."
It did decrease sales...LOL. 4.9% to be exact 😉 If they want to INCREASE sales they need to offer win7 as an option on ALL models. Most only offer it still on specific ones. Limit our choices and we generally limit your access to our wallets
The market is growing enough in developing countries that this should not be happening. Tablets are not stealing many PC sales. Maybe a few lowend notebooks (netbooks?) but not much else. Too slow for any work even when hooked to a monitor/keyboard/mouse. Another year or two? Could be a problem by end 2014 but not much before. They need a few more spins and shrinks first, not to mention some software that allows you to actually get work done (and I'm not talking email on android etc). Browsing and email don't really count and certainly can't replace the pc on your desktop for work.
"The market research firm estimated total unit shipments at 90.3 million, down 4.9 percent from Q4 2011, which saw shipments of 95.0 million."
It did decrease sales...LOL. 4.9% to be exact 😉 If they want to INCREASE sales they need to offer win7 as an option on ALL models. Most only offer it still on specific ones. Limit our choices and we generally limit your access to our wallets
The market is growing enough in developing countries that this should not be happening. Tablets are not stealing many PC sales. Maybe a few lowend notebooks (netbooks?) but not much else. Too slow for any work even when hooked to a monitor/keyboard/mouse. Another year or two? Could be a problem by end 2014 but not much before. They need a few more spins and shrinks first, not to mention some software that allows you to actually get work done (and I'm not talking email on android etc). Browsing and email don't really count and certainly can't replace the pc on your desktop for work.
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[citation][nom]kirbykiller[/nom]I'm just pointing out it's not as bad as what most people say.[/citation]The faults that people do not like or flat out hate about Windows8 is very real. Yes, there are THINGS to like about Windows 8. The Up button and tweaks to the desktop are nice and welcomed. While such things wouldn't create a demand for an upgrade - the crap known formerly as METRO makes many of us REJECT windows 8 as a whole. Rather than simply another OS purchase, we simply re-use / re-buy Windows7...
Windows 8 sucks, and its sales shows it. Microsofts own actions shows this.
Windows 8 sucks, and its sales shows it. Microsofts own actions shows this.
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[citation][nom]snowzsan[/nom]I'm surprised to still see these B/S stories. Windows 8 is a solid platform. To not use it because of metro is downright stupid. I barely ever use that section and never really have to! Why? Because I'm not incompetent. I know how to use file explorer. ~ It's been stated several hundred times that the OS itself is significantly faster and less bloated than 7.[/citation] (post 2.0)
We have a right to not have to buy windows 8, your right to be a complete idiot. Very few people have complained about the stability of Win8. Performance wise Windows8 is no faster than Windows 7.
What data to do you have that shows the "significantly faster" operating system over Win7? Other than than the hybrid reboot process, that is it. When I need to cold start my computer, it boots up in 20 seconds with an SSD (Which costs less than Windows8 and actually DOES enhance performance).
Guess what...? Who cares! Especially since I'm my machine is rebooted or powered up every 2 or 3 weeks! My system wakes up in 1~3 seconds.
Windows 8 doesn't do anything actually easier or better... just different and it does it badly. It shoves ADs to buy crap from microsoft. It bounces you back and forth between metro IE to desktop IE. And as stated, its a horribly ugly UI on both sides.
Windows 8 isn't worth $1 to install.
We have a right to not have to buy windows 8, your right to be a complete idiot. Very few people have complained about the stability of Win8. Performance wise Windows8 is no faster than Windows 7.
What data to do you have that shows the "significantly faster" operating system over Win7? Other than than the hybrid reboot process, that is it. When I need to cold start my computer, it boots up in 20 seconds with an SSD (Which costs less than Windows8 and actually DOES enhance performance).
Guess what...? Who cares! Especially since I'm my machine is rebooted or powered up every 2 or 3 weeks! My system wakes up in 1~3 seconds.
Windows 8 doesn't do anything actually easier or better... just different and it does it badly. It shoves ADs to buy crap from microsoft. It bounces you back and forth between metro IE to desktop IE. And as stated, its a horribly ugly UI on both sides.
Windows 8 isn't worth $1 to install.
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[citation][nom]somebodyspecial[/nom]Tablets are not stealing many PC sales. Maybe a few lowend notebooks (netbooks?) but not much else. Too slow for any work even when hooked to a monitor/keyboard/mouse. Another year or two? Could be a problem by end 2014 but not much before.[/citation]
Tablets (iPad usually) have destroyed the netbook market. Go ahead, check out the brands and models out there such as the Asus eebook, etc. I think only ACER is selling a model. What few netbooks on the market are about $200~250, while a normal 15" bottom-end notebook goes for about $300~350.
Netbooks are dead. And notebook sales are losing market share to tablets.
The new CPUs from intel are better with power usage... and yes, they can be productive for what they are design for.
Tablets (iPad usually) have destroyed the netbook market. Go ahead, check out the brands and models out there such as the Asus eebook, etc. I think only ACER is selling a model. What few netbooks on the market are about $200~250, while a normal 15" bottom-end notebook goes for about $300~350.
Netbooks are dead. And notebook sales are losing market share to tablets.
The new CPUs from intel are better with power usage... and yes, they can be productive for what they are design for.
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[citation][nom]kirbykiller[/nom]~~so far I've found the start screen easier to organise than the start menu. You can place programs into specific tile groups e.g games will be in one section while programs will be in another. This is impossible to, in the start menu.[/citation]
Are you brain damaged? Uh... you CAN group programs into menus on the Start Menu since Windows 95... you right click OPEN, use explorer to move or rename shortcuts.
Are you brain damaged? Uh... you CAN group programs into menus on the Start Menu since Windows 95... you right click OPEN, use explorer to move or rename shortcuts.
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[citation][nom]belardo[/nom]Are you brain damaged? Uh... you CAN group programs into menus on the Start Menu since Windows 95... you right click OPEN, use explorer to move or rename shortcuts.[/citation]
I'm just going to stop arguing with you, your either an idiot or a troll.
I'm just going to stop arguing with you, your either an idiot or a troll.
Or maybe people don't want an OS designed for social networking in the workplace aka a cheesy phone UI designed to bite into a data plan. Yes you can set a limit, but, what good is in when it mindlessly drains it, isn't the point of Live tiles is to get current info? Betcha AT&T loves it, et al. Data providers.
Clearly it favors touch over mouse and if changes need to be made for that, anything intuitive goes out the Window UI, no pun intended, as does productivity by adding more mouse clicks, for the same unit of work or having to be forced to use, learn terse short cuts. Yeah, you can do this or that, making links here and there, download this free this or that to make it more useable, but you should not have to. People spent, lose enough time keeping a Window box running. I want an appliance, one nice thing about a true tablet. As for Metro and Window UI if you hated "ribbons" before, there is no escaping it now. Drop down menus work well for mice, not so for touch. The problem here ease of mouse use in the Windows UI had to go to support touch because of that mobile phone UI neatly ignoring touch is a pain on a large screen or a multi screen desktop. Why do you need apps on a full blown PC? You don't they were created for the most part for tablets because their power, storage doesn't equal the desktop. I would rather have real programs on my iPad then apps, but that isn't going to happen. Trying to turn a heavy, battery sucking desktop into a tablet doesn't work not when you have to make kludges to support two kinds of input devices, mouse and touch. What has to suffer is the user experience for both users. It reminds me of that car/airplane that never made it to the market. It didn't do either one function very well. If you tried to optimize one function over the other you found it had to be at the sake of the other. No amount of lips stick will improve this pig. As for Windows 8 being solid, well no kidding, it is just Windows 7 under the covers, hell it still smells of Dos. Amazing Apple had the balls to dump their OS, replacing it with OS X. Microsoft just keeps dragging the same undercarriage release after release, lawyering on a UI, the backwards program capability problem always the problem of true innovation. This did in IBM's MVS, TSO. That OS is dead but it ran for decades. All I see in 8 if you have 7 running on a non touch device is you are paying for basically what should be a free upgrade if you don't want that phone UI. I sure don't want to pay for apps where I can get the same function for free in the Windows side.
Love the FUD from other blogs about the price hike going for this. Given the competition coming from other OS options, Apples low everyday price for their OS, Microsoft is making a bad move. But maybe not, the fear of announcing the hike might pull in those last $$$. Think about it there is little to lose hiking the price because anyone wanting it has it and you will be forced to pay the Microsoft tax when you buy a new machine with that free copy of Windows 8..... Hmm, genius.
Clearly it favors touch over mouse and if changes need to be made for that, anything intuitive goes out the Window UI, no pun intended, as does productivity by adding more mouse clicks, for the same unit of work or having to be forced to use, learn terse short cuts. Yeah, you can do this or that, making links here and there, download this free this or that to make it more useable, but you should not have to. People spent, lose enough time keeping a Window box running. I want an appliance, one nice thing about a true tablet. As for Metro and Window UI if you hated "ribbons" before, there is no escaping it now. Drop down menus work well for mice, not so for touch. The problem here ease of mouse use in the Windows UI had to go to support touch because of that mobile phone UI neatly ignoring touch is a pain on a large screen or a multi screen desktop. Why do you need apps on a full blown PC? You don't they were created for the most part for tablets because their power, storage doesn't equal the desktop. I would rather have real programs on my iPad then apps, but that isn't going to happen. Trying to turn a heavy, battery sucking desktop into a tablet doesn't work not when you have to make kludges to support two kinds of input devices, mouse and touch. What has to suffer is the user experience for both users. It reminds me of that car/airplane that never made it to the market. It didn't do either one function very well. If you tried to optimize one function over the other you found it had to be at the sake of the other. No amount of lips stick will improve this pig. As for Windows 8 being solid, well no kidding, it is just Windows 7 under the covers, hell it still smells of Dos. Amazing Apple had the balls to dump their OS, replacing it with OS X. Microsoft just keeps dragging the same undercarriage release after release, lawyering on a UI, the backwards program capability problem always the problem of true innovation. This did in IBM's MVS, TSO. That OS is dead but it ran for decades. All I see in 8 if you have 7 running on a non touch device is you are paying for basically what should be a free upgrade if you don't want that phone UI. I sure don't want to pay for apps where I can get the same function for free in the Windows side.
Love the FUD from other blogs about the price hike going for this. Given the competition coming from other OS options, Apples low everyday price for their OS, Microsoft is making a bad move. But maybe not, the fear of announcing the hike might pull in those last $$$. Think about it there is little to lose hiking the price because anyone wanting it has it and you will be forced to pay the Microsoft tax when you buy a new machine with that free copy of Windows 8..... Hmm, genius.
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