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i am about to purchase a complete system from www.cyberpowerpc.com

case: aliminum turbo gamer SX 1040 server case 425W
CPU: (800 FSB)Intel P4 3.2
MOBO: ABIT IC7 I875PE 800Mhz FSB DUAL DDR 8X AGP
sony 16X dvd-rom
sony cdrw 52X24X52 EIDE
FAN: INTEL certified cpu fan & heatsink
mitsumi 1.44MB floppy
80GB 7200 RPM ATA 100Hard Drive
windows Xp pro
soound: creative labs SB audigy-2 platinum 6.1
speakers: Klipsch Promedia THX 5.1 subwoofer system
video: ATI RADEON 9800 PRO 128MB

probably will go with a viewsonic 19" P90F monitor

see anything missing or that would need to be changed. used mostly for gaming, but want high-end gaming.

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by ssmith on 07/23/03 01:23 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
I might be blind but i don't see any memory...it is kinda late though...other than that...not bad...cept you know what brand power supply comes with your case...a bad PS could cause a lot of headaches

There is no smell better than fried silicon :evil:
 
oops.

memory: 1024 MB PC3200 400Mhz

power supply: has listed as standard case power supply, with a $79 add for black thermaltake 480 Watt silent power supply

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by ssmith on 07/23/03 00:43 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
it states that they use: kingston, samsung, micron or nanya

will the standard case power supply be sufficient?

in your opinion, where should the pc fall at price wise?

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by ssmith on 07/23/03 00:47 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
You do not nead a 480 watter for this system...i would say that 370-400 is what this requires...if they don't tell you the PS name then treat it as generic...i would be hard pressed to build a system like this and scimp on the power supply...

Silicon: The other, other, other white meat :evil:
 
Have you checked prices with New Egg? Who makes HD? IMO I would go with 2000 PRO. Uses less resources plus you don't need all that eye candy. Are you buying HSF? Retail CPU from Intel comes with stock HSF.
 
IMO I would go with 2000 PRO.
Last I knew Win2K didn't support HyperThreading correctly.

"<i>Yeah, if you treat them like equals, it'll only encourage them to think they <b>ARE</b> your equals.</i>" - Thief from <A HREF="http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=030603" target="_new">8-Bit Theater</A>
 
You might want to read what other buyers have to say about Cyberpower at - <A HREF="http://resellerratings.com./seller2120.html" target="_new">resellerratings.com</A>.

Especially their tech support ...



<b><font color=red>It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is. - Bill Clinton<b><font color=red>
 
You might want to read what other buyers have to say about Cyberpower at - resellerratings.com.

Especially their tech support ...
Ouch! I haven't seen that many customer reviews <i>that</i> bad in a long time. It's a hillarious read until you realize that these are real people being screwed by an obviously shady reseller.

"<i>Yeah, if you treat them like equals, it'll only encourage them to think they <b>ARE</b> your equals.</i>" - Thief from <A HREF="http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=030603" target="_new">8-Bit Theater</A>
 
is new egg a good place to buy a complete system?

no, i do not plan on overclocking.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by ssmith on 07/23/03 01:59 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
Well I may be wrong. **shrug**

I just know that months ago I read an article on how WinNT and Win2K technically views HT processors as two seperate physical processors. Where as Win XP (and Win Server 2003) view HT processors as an actual single processor that is just capable of scheduling tasks better. There's extra code involved in these OSes to keep the scheduling from actually treating an HT processor as just two physical processors. And in the case of two actual physical HT-enabled processors WinXP schedules tasks in the order of physical-physical-logical-logical instead of Win2K and WinNT which schedule tasks in the order of physical-logical-physical-logical, often resulting in one HT-enabled CPU being maxed out while the other doesn't even get utilized.

The article basically said that because of better OS support WinXP runs HT processors noticably better and in fact in many cases WinNT and Win2K you're better off just disabling HT all together.

That's what the article said anyway. **shrug** Not having had a HT processor and several OSes to try it out on, I pretty much just had to assume that they were right.

"<i>Yeah, if you treat them like equals, it'll only encourage them to think they <b>ARE</b> your equals.</i>" - Thief from <A HREF="http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=030603" target="_new">8-Bit Theater</A>
 
I've never heard (may just be me) of Newegg selling finished, built systems - but as far as "parts" go - they are 1st rate. Check out Pricegrabber.com, find any part - say a CPU - search - will show Newegg and others - then check their reviews (not the part - the seller).

I think you'll find that most of the people here kind of default to Newegg 1st. You'll find others though.



<b><font color=red>It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is. - Bill Clinton<b><font color=red>
 
well, i do not have the knowledge of building my own pc, so i need to buy a complete system. any recommendations as where to look?
 
Look at <A HREF="http://www.abspc.com/index.asp" target="_new">ABS</A> and <A HREF="http://www.falcon-nw.com/index.asp" target="_new">Falcon Northwest</A>.
Both may be higher than that other company, both only offer a limited range of pre-built systems w/limited configuration options, and I'd check their reviews too.

I have not done business with either - just have read decent reviews.
BTW, I don't know if the original company is that bad - I was just pointing you to some user reviews/ratings.



<b><font color=red>It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is. - Bill Clinton<b><font color=red>
 
is it better to get 2 sticks of 512 of ram or to get

Corsair XMS TwinX 512 MB PC3700 DDR467, Heat Spreaders, Matched Pair
 
Case: CoolerMaster ATC-210 w/Antec 430w & Front USB (Foggy Blue Front)
Intel CPU: Intel Pentium 4 3.2 GHz (512k Cache, 800 MHz FSB)
Motherboard: Intel D875PBZ with GB-LAN/S.ATA/8xAGP (800MHz FSB)
Case Fan: Clear 80mm Case Fan, Blue LED
RAM (1st stick): Corsair 512 MB PC3200 DDR400, Value Select
RAM (2nd stick): Corsair 512 MB PC3200 DDR400, Value Select
Hard Drive 1: Seagate 80 GB, Ultra 100, 7200 RPM
CD-RW / DVD-RW: LiteOn CDRW, 52x24x52 - Beige
DVD Drive Only: LiteOn LTD163 IDE DVD, 16x48x, Software Included - Beige
Floppy: Mitsumi 1.44 MB Floppy Drive - Beige
Video Card: ATI RADEON 9800 Pro 128MB (Dual Head, DVI, OEM)
Monitor: Viewsonic 19" P90f
Sound Card: SoundBlaster Audigy 2 Platinum with External Audigy Drive
Speakers: Klipsch Promedia THX 5.1 Subwoofer speaker system
Keyboard: Eluminx Silver Sapphire Keyboard PS/2
Mouse: Logitech MX500 Optical Mouse
Operating System: Windows XP Home (OEM)
Other Software: Microsoft Works Suite 2003 (OEM)
Network Card: PCI 10 / 100 Network Card (DLink DFE530TX+)

opinions?