GeForce GT 220 And 210: DirectX 10.1 And 40nm Under $80

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And let's also not forget the rumors of AMD's mid-range next-generation Radeon HD 5700-series cards arriving in the near future (Ed.: like, tomorrow).
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Whooo hooo! That's like the light at the end of the graphics card tunnel of this review! No offense, I was just expecting more value from Nvidia this time, since that's where ATI is kicking their ass across the segments. Seriously, these new chips under-perform their older ATI counterparts and cost more? It almost seems like they don't want to fight back, even with a cheaper die process.
 
I can't see anyone wanting to put these in their system. First, it certainly is not an "upgrade" to anything. Second, if I was building a HTPC, their are clearly better options (4670 or even a 4830 or 4850 with the way prices are dropping). Third, its priced too damn high relative to its competition, including the models it is designed to replace.

At best, I see these POS being used for OEM builds by Dell and HP, or sold at retail shops like Best Buy or Micro Center.
 
Appears that the G 210 will be a still born product for Nvidia as its performance is barely better than an IGP solution.
 
I'm sure AMD/ATI is laughing at these new cards. Hopefully they don't indicate how the G300 series will be =P
 
[citation][nom]scrumworks[/nom]I forgot to add that article writer seems not to have any idea what DX10.1 is all about when running HAWX without AA. Let me clarify: DX10.1 is about improving AA performance.[/citation]

Based on the fact that the SSAO implementation is clearly different, I'm going to disagree with you.

Dx 10.1 is about more than AA alone. That's part of it, but it's certainly not all of it.
 
[citation][nom]scrumworks[/nom]I think you got my point but you wanted to do some hair splitting. Let's check the dates for those reviews: 09/29/2009, 09/23/2009, 09/30/2009, 09/24/2009, 09/25/2009, 09/28/2009. We are talking about a couple of weeks old articles. HAWX was released in the beginning of March and I remember many reviews with DX10.1 disabled on ATI cards.[/citation]
It's not splitting hairs when all of those links have DX10.1 results with the HD48xx series cards. Your statement "first time" was false, and what you are insinuating is also false. I can't speak for all, but the US editorial team is testing H.A.W.X with DX 10.1 when supported.

 
Can't believe they're only getting DX 10.1 now when we're about to go to DX 11. This late in the game they SHOULD have skipped over DX 10.1 and gone straight to DX 11. NVIDIA is falling so far behind, even with the GPGPU stuff they have coming out.
 
Where have you done temperature tests?? In alaska?? to mesure 7 degrees at idle , the room temperature MUST be less than 7 degrees!
The cooling system is nothing special, is the thermal sensor that don't do his work!
 
[citation][nom]boss84[/nom]Where have you done temperature tests?? In alaska?? to mesure 7 degrees at idle , the room temperature MUST be less than 7 degrees! The cooling system is nothing special, is the thermal sensor that don't do his work![/citation]

that isn't the temperature, its the DIFFERENCE between ambient and measured temperature. the 7 means the card was 7C above room temperature.
 

haha :lol:
 
Gotta hand it to you guys on articles like these. It's good to hear what's good, and what's just crap in the lower end of the market. Not everybody has the cash for a GTX 295 or 5870 or even a system that could take advantage of either of them, but for those with a few years old system just looking to play a little Left 4 Dead or something, the GT 220 is just right and the wattage is nice and low. The 210 is just too wimpy to recommend for anything other than a low profile box, though.
 
[citation][nom]boss84[/nom]Where have you done temperature tests?? In alaska?? to mesure 7 degrees at idle , the room temperature MUST be less than 7 degrees! The cooling system is nothing special, is the thermal sensor that don't do his work![/citation]

quertymac93 is right. Read the chart... 'delta vs. ambient' means the difference between the temp of the GPU and ambient room temperature.

Room temperature was about 22 degrees C, by the way.
 
[citation][nom]caffeinecarl[/nom]Gotta hand it to you guys on articles like these. It's good to hear what's good, and what's just crap in the lower end of the market. Not everybody has the cash for a GTX 295 or 5870 or even a system that could take advantage of either of them, but for those with a few years old system just looking to play a little Left 4 Dead or something, the GT 220 is just right and the wattage is nice and low. The 210 is just too wimpy to recommend for anything other than a low profile box, though.[/citation]

It's great to have a budget card, but the advantages this card has don't benefit anyone. Too much too late. The new 5700 series is better and not so badly priced and as soon as we get the 5600 series this card will be forgotten.

If you need a good card now that doesn't cost a lot, look at the nv 250 or 260, ati 4600, 4700 or 4800 series. Those cards are good. If I had the choice between saving 80 bucks and using my IGP or buying this, I'd probably just save the 80 bucks.
 
why didn't you put this POS up against a 4770? I would gladly shell out a few more dollars and take a 4770 over this thing. $83.99 to be exact. Since this was nvidia's 40nm hat that was thrown into the ring then at least let it go up against AMD's 40nm 4770. It would have been fun to see how far behind nvidia was in the sub $100 category.
 
[citation][nom]bill gates is your daddy[/nom]why didn't you put this POS up against a 4770? [/citation]

Because it's in a different price range. The 4770 might be faster, but that's irrelevant for somebody shopping for a $70 card.

Besides that, the 4770 is a bad buy when the faster 4850 can be had for as little as $100.
 
MMhhh, wow so inefficient to release something that is worse than amd's new motherboard IGP chips.
Can nvidia release something that is more unproductive and useless ?

Ati 4670 is well bottom of the bottom and equivalent to a 5 year old gaming video card, a server video now is minm. ATI4830 ($70 on Expensive / insane prices ebay) just to satisfy windows / linux.

Now nvidia 210 / 220 = vote of confidence = impeach nvidia.
 
[citation][nom]Cleeve[/nom]Because it's in a different price range. The 4770 might be faster, but that's irrelevant for somebody shopping for a $70 card.Besides that, the 4770 is a bad buy when the faster 4850 can be had for as little as $100.[/citation]

the 4850 isn't0 that much faster, but it's bigger, uses more power, runs hotter, and is louder. yes you get more performance with the 4850, but you get a lot more of other(bad) things too.
 
Too little, too late... why dx10.1 now???? that will alienate their GT200 user install base and goes against their mantra that dx10.1 is not important.....strange?!
 
once again nvidia holds back or re brands and re releases - there main marketing is you can only get phys-x from us since we own it and we are a monopolistic anti-consumer, anti competition company that will do anything for the bottom line including screwing all our customers!

yea nvidia!! your right up there with bank of america and golden slacks

next they want a bail out?
 
[citation][nom]qwertymac93[/nom]the 4850 isn't that much faster,[/citation]

In my experience, it is usually significantly faster.

There are a few choice games where the 4770 comes close, but since the 4850 costs less I can't imagine recommending a 4770 unless you cared more about power usage than playability.

 
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