OK, boared tech. I was refering to the prices at ncix compared to REAL WORLD prices. I OWN a geforce 2 GTS from VisionTech w/32MB DDR and paid $159 at CompGeeks. I have no performance problems with this card, but I want a TV-OUT and am willing to sacrifice a little performance to get it. And the Geforce Pro I was talking about is NOT the GTS/PRO but the GF1 Pro, which I believe to be another name for the GF256 DDR. Specifically, I was looking at a Creative Blaster Anihilator Pro with 32MB DDR ram and TV out for $120. I am not well versed on all the original geforce cards, and was simply asking what the performance difference was between that card and the MX. I have not seen any camparisons between the two. And they both cost about $120 right now. NCIX is charging over $200 for the MX w/tv-out, over $200 for the DDR and, for comparison, over $400 for the GTS w/32MB (OUCH!). So my prices are OUTSTANDINGLY better. And I have plenty of experience with purchasing and pricing, which is what this whole discussion has turned to.