GF100 (Fermi) previews and discussion

[sabot00]

I simply hope Fermi is competitive, that equals price drops.
I hope:
5970 - $499
5870 - $329
5850 - $249
5830 - $199
5770 - $149
5750 - $109
5670 - $79

This would make a $1100 Eyefinity setup much more reasonable:
3 x 22 inch ($159 each, newegg, both 1920 x 1080 & 1680 x 1050) = $480
1 x 5870 = $329
DDR3 1333 4GB RAM = $86
1 x Athlon II X4 = $99
Cheap 790X/G mobo - $69
Nice 500W-600W PSU - $49
Case - $30

 

[EXT64]

5850 isn't far from $259 right now, is it? (I know I got it for $300 + a free $40 game) So those seem pretty reasonable for when Fermi comes out or supply catches up with demand.

 

[sabot00]

Most of the price points I listed were realistic, the 5850/5870/5970 will face you full blow of Fermi, so I listed the 5970 dropping $100+, the 5870 dropping $70, the 5850 dropping $40 (but yes it should be around $249 instead).
Lower-end cards like the 5770/5750/5670 will be shielded from Fermi due to the time needed to scale it down, dropping GT200b/GT216/GT212/G92b prices can still alter them, so I listed them rather conservatively (updated).

 

[IzzyCraft]

I simply hope Fermi is competitive, that equals price drops.
I hope:
5970 - $499
5870 - $329
5850 - $249
5830 - $199
5770 - $149
5750 - $109
5670 - $79

This would make a $1100 Eyefinity setup much more reasonable:
3 x 22 inch ($159 each, newegg, both 1920 x 1080 & 1680 x 1050) = $480
1 x 5870 = $329
DDR3 1333 4GB RAM = $86
1 x Athlon II X4 = $99
Cheap 790X/G mobo - $69
Nice 500W-600W PSU - $49
Case - $30

Eyefinity gaming on cheap monitors with crappy only up and down adjustments oh yes that just what i want. i rather spend 480 dollars on a nice big monitor that is all nice and stuff you know? Or hell redistribue my money a bit and gett better all around parts. Also you forgot HDD and Rom drive. most ppl want new HDD when their new computer nice big ones that cost 80-120 bucks.

 

[sabot00]

Well sorry, but a cheap monitor does not mean a bad monitor, the point was not to distribute the money, this was not a general purpose PC, it was meant to sport the biggest gunning GPU possible & a CPU that can keep up, the graphics & displays obviously took up the majority of the budget.
Yes I did forget the HDD & DVD drive so here goes:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148397 - $39
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106276&cm_re=dvd_drive-_-27-106-276-_-Product - $20

 

[mindless728]

@sabot, it would be better to get a Samsung F3 500GB (~55), that old 160GB drive would be really slow compared to current drives, and it is worth spending another $4 to get the DVD-RW instead of DVD-ROM

 

[sabot00]

I know, but I was trying to list a bare minimum.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Several reasons I dont quite agree with that pricing. One is, nVidia wont be cheap, so little down pressure created by Fermi. Another is, the wedge card, the 5830 has to fit somewheres in between with gaps

 

[notty22]

Everyone that is whineing about Nvidia's pricing BEFORE the card even gets here better take a look at what their wonderful ATI (better prices for the gamer? yeah right !) is doing. The 5970 might as well not exist, because if you want one, its now going to cost you 800 ! You have got to be kidding me. Fermi might just be a bargain compared to this travesty.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Lessee, why dont you look up pricing on 285s and nVidias current fastest card, MARS?

 

[sabot00]

Cheapest 5850 on Newegg = $289
Cheapest GTX 285 on Newegg = $389

Suck me nVidia.

 

[verndewd]

Everyone that is whineing about Nvidia's pricing BEFORE the card even gets here better take a look at what their wonderful ATI (better prices for the gamer? yeah right !) is doing. The 5970 might as well not exist, because if you want one, its now going to cost you 800 ! You have got to be kidding me. Fermi might just be a bargain compared to this travesty.
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr185/notty222/ACTUALPRICES5970.png

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048%20106793261%201067950589&name=Radeon%20HD%205970

Yoo be shoppin in the wrong place broham.

 

[AMW1011]

notty, go away, we can ALL cherry pick prices if we wanted to.

http://www.extremerigs.com.au/evga-coop-1792mb-p-173.html

Hmm, looks like the 5970 is a much better deal after-all if you look at these prices...

 

[Mousemonkey]

notty, go away, we can ALL cherry pick prices if we wanted to.

http://www.extremerigs.com.au/evga-coop-1792mb-p-173.html

Hmm, looks like the 5970 is a much better deal after-all if you look at these prices...

Ooh, can I do one with a currency conversion thrown in to skew the result. [:mousemonkey]

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-154-XF&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1577

Works out to $971.65!

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Just do the MARS card, you dont need to convert
Say hayloo to their halo:
At $1500 the Mars Limited edition is very expensive and well out of the reach of most consumers. In terms of the actual specification it seems that this is a little overpriced, since one single GeForce GTX 285 2GB costs as little as $425
http://www.mvktech.net/content/view/4779/143/
I think the 5970 is too cheap, it should be 2000$ US at nVidia pricing

 

[Mousemonkey]

I don't think I've seen the Mars edition on sale anywhere in the UK but then it was a rather one off limited edition which is more than the 5970 series cards are supposed to be, or are they?

 

[AMW1011]

Ooh, can I do one with a currency conversion thrown in to skew the result. [:mousemonkey]

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-154-XF&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1577

Works out to $971.65!

Haha so can I!

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-110-EA

$959.28

For $20 more you can get 25% more performance!

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

No, youre right, the MARS was for those select fanbois that believe the PR hype, and of course, it was worth it, tho Im sure if ATI wanted to, they could make a "special" card too.......nah

 

[Mousemonkey]

Haha so can I!

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-110-EA

$959.28

For $20 more you can get 25% more performance!

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/HIS/Radeon_HD_5970_CrossFire/images/perfrel.gif

You forgot to add in the cost of the w/c loop.

 

[Mousemonkey]

No, youre right, the MARS was for those select fanbois that believe the PR hype, and of course, it was worth it, tho Im sure if ATI wanted to, they could make a "special" card too.......nah

Fingers crossed that they never release a 5990 using a pair of die shrunk 5870's with six DP ports, that would be so rubbish and nobody in their right mind would be interested in buying one would they?

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

On a new process? Cetainly. Clocks at 1100 or so, itd sell, and do eyefinity well.
Im in the "itll be a 5xxx series refresh camp for 28nm.
Tho, Im doubting theyll actually do a x2 card, but the 5xxx series, on 28, yea.
The new process introduces so many new things, and 40nm is about all were going to get without HKMG, and since thats new, Im not so certain how good early yields/availability will be, so, Im thinking they wont risk a trickle yield/high risk on their new arch.
Im thinking itll be a non pci compliant 5990, with high clocks and special cooling, much like MARS, except the price

 

[verndewd]

Fingers crossed that they never release a 5990 using a pair of die shrunk 5870's with six DP ports, that would be so rubbish and nobody in their right mind would be interested in buying one would they?

dewd why ya harshin my high all teh sudden 😀

 

[Mousemonkey]

dewd why ya harshin my high all teh sudden 😀

Every high must have a come down of some sort. 😗 :lol:

 

[verndewd]

Every high must have a come down of some sort. 😗 :lol:

I was almost to the ecstasy drug stage from my fanboi bliss dumping massive amounts of dopamine into my body, seconds from now I could have been rolling around on the floor drooling , chomping on a baby's teething device and drinking alot of water while issuing one soul exploding mantra

mmmm ATI 5990 (drool gurgle) 😀

 

[Mousemonkey]

I was almost to the ecstasy drug stage from my fanboi bliss dumping massive amounts of dopamine into my body, seconds from now I could have been rolling around on the floor drooling , chomping on a baby's teething device and drinking alot of water while issuing one soul exploding mantra

mmmm ATI 5990 (drool gurgle) 😀

It might just come to pass mate, you never know. If the 6xxx series follows Nvidia's lead and is more gpGPU orientated then they may well do one last gasp halo card to say goodbye to the 'oldstyle' GPU cards.