GF100 (Fermi) previews and discussion

[daedalus685]

Maybe I'm just kaded.. but when a company says "This will cost the same as the competition." The best thing that crosses my mind is that it might be a tad better, and maybe we could see a few price cuts.

I certainly have never thought that it could mean "OMG they love me and want to give away 50% more performance for the same price as the other guy."

They want to make money, period, if they release it at those prices it is because that is the price they figure will make them the most money. So it either performs at that level, they figure ATI will drastically cut prices before they manage to launch, or something is funny with the stock levels.

 

[RealityRush]

Maybe I'm just kaded.. but when a company says "This will cost the same as the competition." The best thing that crosses my mind is that it might be a tad better, and maybe we could see a few price cuts.

I certainly have never thought that it could mean "OMG they love me and want to give away 50% more performance for the same price as the other guy."

They want to make money, period, if they release it at those prices it is because that is the price they figure will make them the most money. So it either performs at that level, they figure ATI will drastically cut prices before they manage to launch, or something is funny with the stock levels.

Probably true, I'm going off of Shane's "inside info" which as I figured was probably BS. And I was also justing posing some thoughts as to what it would mean if he was right, which I doubt he is. But like I said, I would welcome just straight price reductions anyways, because it would make things cheaper for me 😀

 

[notty22]

The one year warranty , take on Fermi mentioned here http://www.shanebaxtor.com/2010/02/22/gtx-400-series-1-year-warranty-an-issue/ is something I didn't see coming from anywhere. Where does this leave XfX, do they offer their warranty on all American video cards sold ?

 

[hallowed_dragon]

The one year warranty , take on Fermi mentioned here http://www.shanebaxtor.com/2010/02/22/gtx-400-series-1-year-warranty-an-issue/ is something I didn't see coming from anywhere. Where does this leave XfX, do they offer their warranty on all American video cards sold ?

OMG. 1 year warranty....my mouse has 2 year warranty....

 

[lumpofcole]

My estimate is that the 470 will be $350 and the 480 will be $450.

 

[RealityRush]

My estimate is that the 470 will be $350 and the 480 will be $450.

I still think the 480 is going to be $500-$550 MSRP, no matter what Shane says. If it is $450 and beats the 5870 by a fair margin, I'll be floored that nVidia would do such a thing...

 

[RealityRush]

http://twitter.com/NVIDIAGeForce

Ahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaahhahahah..... gasp..... ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahahahahahahahaha.

They announced an announcement.....

 

[notty22]

I was like , what is paxeast ? Its near my home town, lol. Boston MA
Where Revolutions happen !

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

If its a 512 model, just try and score 1 heheh

 

[xizorgetspeed]

so what april availability for these cards?

 

[lumpofcole]

ATI has to be breaking out some cigars today over this.

 

[gamerk316]

My estimate is that the 470 will be $350 and the 480 will be $450.

About where I have prices too; I'm betting $399/$499 at launch if ATI hasn't lowered its prices yet.

Remember, ATI's prices are an X-factor; if they stay as high as they currently are, NVIDIA can justify higher launch prices for their cards.

 

[RealityRush]

so what april availability for these cards?

The card is released on March 27th.....

But it depends what "available" means to you. In mass quantities... May, in limited quantities... then yeah.. April.

 

[poul]

It seems that might not be the case.

http://www.shanebaxtor.com/2010/02/22/gtx-470-price-and-psu-requirement/

Assuming that Shane isn't totally full of it, $299 for the GTX470 if it beats a 5850 is a pretty freaking good deal, as nVidia will be directly competing with ATI price wise for once instead of charging a huge premium for performance. It would also be interesting if the 470 COULD match a 5870 almost, cause you could buy a couple 470's then, SLI them and assuming decent scaling, you would essentially have similar performance to a 5970 for $100-$200 less depending on which model of the 5970 we're talking about.

So if the 480 can beat a 5870 handily as some predictions have stated (not verified at all), or even better a 5890 (or whatever ATI is going to call their Trillium cards), and price at $400 MSRP or some such..... nvidia will have at least redeemed themselves from the beating they've taken and pull back from the edge of "Oh s h i t, we're in trouble" and they will have also started some decent competition over prices; which means if they get forced low enough I might end up buying something from this generation after all from either ATI or nVidia... yipee!!!!

On the other hand, if they are lying and this is another "Power of Three" fake launch, I'm going to personally find Jen-Hsun Huang and sucker punch him in the gut for ruining the graphics industry, if even for a short time.

If everything was going to plan, they would have bin able to sell at 600-700$ at least in the beginning, if they where first to marked with products. The timing is perhaps not everything, but surely something. But that is an oportunity that is gone now. Now, the HD 5670 is a card that the critics say, is not a real gaming card. Now, that is their opinion. You can bye one this month at 90$ and next month one more, and run crossfire, and have a lot of fun doing it, witout any overspending. But to be honest, I don't think they are cheep. But that's the way it is.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

So, ATI had limited quantities because of TSMC, got their cards out almost six months ago, TSMC has announced several times their 40nm is running fine, why wont these cards be available in mass quantities by the end of March?
No excuses anymore

 

[sirchick]

I don't understand they set a release date but no real specs info or prices - what are we to do here just second guess if its worth waiting 2 months :S

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

The official twitter anouncement:

 

[lumpofcole]

^^^ That's pretty inaccurate. There should be a big hole in the middle of the case that is smoking with heat from the 30 inch prototype card sticking out of it.

 

[notty22]

The official twitter anouncement:
http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu171/jaydeejohn/2lkshls.jpg

OK, thats kind of funny, lol

 

[-Fran-]

The official twitter anouncement:
http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu171/jaydeejohn/2lkshls.jpg

JD, you made the whole office stare at me while I ROFL'ed...

Hope you're happy now, lol.

Cheers! XD!

 

[badboydiablo]

The official twitter anouncement:
http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu171/jaydeejohn/2lkshls.jpg

Haha, nice one. I saw these on Anandtech:

Fun stuff, On a more serious note, I am still waiting for Fermi before I upgrade, my 4850 is holding up quite nicely at the moment.

EDIT: First Post!

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Welcome to Toms
Hopefully we will se fermi, and its lil brothers sooner than we think

 

[IzzyCraft]

I want to see it's big brother that is 2 chips 14 inchs long 3 slots wide and takes 1000w of power and can be your very on gpgpu with very little promise in games but good luck getting your FORTRAN code running on it that should be fun.

 

[jennyh]

I wonder if intel will make mocking cartoons of it soon. 😀

 

[-Fran-]

I wonder if intel will make mocking cartoons of it soon. 😀

Larabee: Hello Fermi.
Fermi: Hello Larabee, what are you doing here?
Larabee: I came to pick you up for special ED school.
Fermi: Dad, what's going on?
nVidia: Shut up and get on the van.

I'm no joke specialist, but... LET THEM ROLL FOLKS!

Cheers! xD!