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I have a new gigabyte GA-81875 Ultra running Mandrake 10.2 with a P4
3Gig CPU,two 120g SATA drives, Nvidia FX5200 and originally one gig of
DDR400 ram. And all seemed well.

I installed another gig of ram and started to suffer hangs and
spontaneous reboots. Removing the new ram settled things down. Fitting
the new ram in place of the original still ran ok. After adding the
original ram into the second slots also ran ok, until the next day
when it went back to hangups.

Running Memtest86 found a lot of memory errors so I returned the box
to the supplier who after some memory module swapping eventually
upgraded the bios to "F10"and declared it OK.

It is now a lot more stable just the daily random hang, and memtest
still finds errors.

Is it reasonable to doubt the motherboard stability?
Do these boards have any history of problems?

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nykysle wrote:
> Is it reasonable to doubt the motherboard stability?
> Do these boards have any history of problems?

Sounds like bad memory.
 
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Travis Jordan wrote:
> nykysle wrote:
>
>>Is it reasonable to doubt the motherboard stability?
>>Do these boards have any history of problems?
>
>
> Sounds like bad memory.
>
>
The 875P chip set does not like unmatched memory & more than 2 modules.
The best, although most unsatisfactory, solution is to toss Your old
memory & buy 2 matched 1 gb sticks. This info I have gleaned from
reviews, postings here and from OCZ tech support. I have an 8KNXP & was
going to do the same as You. I wrote to OCZ regarding single side mods &
that is when they told me about the 875 chip set. I would have
considered this just a ploy to sell more memory but they also said I
probably didn't need it unless I was doing very intensive work, such as
video editing/rendering (which is what I am doing).

My 2 cents

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"Travis Jordan" wrote:
>nykysle wrote:
>> Is it reasonable to doubt the motherboard stability?
>> Do these boards have any history of problems?
>
>Sounds like bad memory.

That was my original thought Travis, but the current new ram is from a
completely different manufacturer. And "Memtest" still faults it.
I’ve increased the ram timing cycles slightly and will hold my breath.

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"Geezah" <sandypondgang@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> The 875P chip set does not like unmatched memory & more than 2 modules.
> The best, although most unsatisfactory, solution is to toss Your old
> memory & buy 2 matched 1 gb sticks. This info I have gleaned from reviews,
> postings here and from OCZ tech support. I have an 8KNXP & was going to do
> the same as You. I wrote to OCZ regarding single side mods & that is when
> they told me about the 875 chip set. I would have considered this just a
> ploy to sell more memory but they also said I probably didn't need it
> unless I was doing very intensive work, such as video editing/rendering
> (which is what I am doing).

I've been running 512x4 Kingston Valu-Ram (CAS 3) on my 8KNXP Rev. 1 (875p)
for two years in a photo-editing workstation without the slightest problem.
This board, or perhaps the chipset, was known for being tempramental with
the brand and/or model of memory modules, but I haven't heard of there being
an issue with the quantity of sticks as long as its within specs.

I also have installed 512x4 (same brand/model) in another workstation
containing an Asus PC800-E Deluxe, also an 875p board, without problems.
That said, if I had it to do again, I'd use 1gb x 2 just for the speed
advantage, plus the ability to add more modules if necessary. At the time
of the original installation the cost of 1gb modules was prohibitive,
however.
 
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nykysle wrote:
> "Travis Jordan" wrote:
> > nykysle wrote:
> > > Is it reasonable to doubt the motherboard stability?
> > > Do these boards have any history of problems?
> >
> > Sounds like bad memory.
>
> That was my original thought Travis, but the current new ram is from a
> completely different manufacturer. And "Memtest" still faults it.
> I've increased the ram timing cycles slightly and will hold my breath.

Does your memory have SPD?
 
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nykysle wrote:
> "Travis Jordan" wrote:
>
>>nykysle wrote:
>>
>>>Is it reasonable to doubt the motherboard stability?
>>>Do these boards have any history of problems?
>>
>>Sounds like bad memory.
>
>
> That was my original thought Travis, but the current new ram is from a
> completely different manufacturer. And "Memtest" still faults it.
> I’ve increased the ram timing cycles slightly and will hold my breath.
>

What voltage are You running it at? I had to up my RAM to 2.74 V to
achieve stability. (FYI I have the rev 2 board). This board drove me
nuts as Gigabyte says You MUST use 2.5 V mem only, then the default BIOS
setting was at 2.64 Volts and it allows You to bring it up to 2.9 V! So
the 2.74 comes from upping the RAM V .1 V, doesn't have to be 2.74
exactly, just bump it .1 V at a time, check the RAM manuf. Voltage specs
first though.

I've also found that the BIOS settings "PSB Parking" & "Delayed
Transaction" have an effect(look for references to interrupts in the
error message, forgot the exact wording). The reduction in speed I see
when I disable them are really only noticeable in Sandra. That's to me
anyway. I use my machine mostly for video work & must have stability -
nothing like choking in the final minutes of a 4 hour rendering job!!

HTH

Geezah
 
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"Geezah" <sandypondgang@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> What voltage are You running it at? I had to up my RAM to 2.74 V to
> achieve stability. (FYI I have the rev 2 board). This board drove me nuts
> as Gigabyte says You MUST use 2.5 V mem only, then the default BIOS
> setting was at 2.64 Volts and it allows You to bring it up to 2.9 V! So
> the 2.74 comes from upping the RAM V .1 V, doesn't have to be 2.74
> exactly, just bump it .1 V at a time, check the RAM manuf. Voltage specs
> first though.
>
> I've also found that the BIOS settings "PSB Parking" & "Delayed
> Transaction" have an effect(look for references to interrupts in the error
> message, forgot the exact wording). The reduction in speed I see when I
> disable them are really only noticeable in Sandra. That's to me anyway. I
> use my machine mostly for video work & must have stability - nothing like
> choking in the final minutes of a 4 hour rendering job!!

When I first got this 8KNXP rev. 1 two years ago the spec was 2.5v RAM, and
the manual said nothing else would work. Kingston, which was on GB's list
of compatible memory, were/are all 2.6v, so go figure. Anyway, these four
512 modules have worked flawlessly here since installed, and when set to SPD
default to 2.6v.