News Golden Pig squeals on AMD's Zen 5 lineup, reveals ten-core Strix Point chips

[Admin]

Chinese leaker "Golden Pig Upgrades" leaks information on the upcoming product spread of AMD's Zen 5 architecture, including specifics on highly anticipated Strix Point and Strix Halo.

Golden Pig squeals on AMD's Zen 5 lineup, reveals ten-core Strix Point chips : Read more

 

[peachpuff]

Will the desktop cpus actually get more cores? Or will the bottom end still start at 6 cores?

 

[Giroro]

So in addition to believing AMD would ever use the Codename "Strix", we now are to believe they can't spell Kraken?

I believe these rumors like I would believe AMD would give a CPU the codename "TUF Destiny 2: The Taken King"

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

Golden Pig squeals on AMD's Zen 5 lineup, reveals ten-core Strix Point chips​

That's one confusing and "horrible" article heading/title, IMHO. Who or what is Golden Pig one may even ask .

A layman or a vast majority of users, may or may NOT even know who this "Golden Pig' Chinese leaker actually is. So a much better heading would be anything like this. Just my thoughts.

Rumors shed light on AMD's upcoming ZEN 5 CPU lineup with some details.

AMD Zen 5 CPU Lineup to include several Ryzen Families for Desktops & Laptops

AMD is working on a full stack of Zen 5 "Ryzen" CPU families including Granite Ridge, Fire Range, Strix Halo, Strix & Krackan

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

So in addition to believing AMD would ever use the Codename "Strix", we now are to believe they can't spell Kraken?

First of all, AMD didn't make that slide. It was made and compiled by few leakers on a Chinese forum, under Golden Pig's guidance. So AMD didn't spell that codename wrong either.

But anyway, I'm not sure what's the confusion here. AMD have themselves confirmed this STRIX codename in case you missed it.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/46...ices-inc-amd-q1-2024-earnings-call-transcript

""We will also take the next major step in our AI PC road map later this year with the launch of our next-generation Ryzen mobile processors code named Strix. Customer interest in Strix is very high based on the significant performance and energy efficiency uplifts we are delivering.

Design win momentum for premium notebooks is outpacing prior generations as Strix enables next-generation AI experiences in laptops that are thinner, lighter and faster than ever before. We’re excited about the growth opportunities for the PC market. And based on the strength of our Ryzen CPU portfolio, we expect to grow revenue share this year.""

Dr. Lisa Su, AMD CEO

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

Further proof that Strix and Strix Halo codenames are not fake or made up. ROCm patch entries/IDs don't lie either:

 

[usertests]

Wow again at the awful AI naming. I wonder which cores get disabled on the 10-core model. Imagine a 3+7 lul. Hopefully it's 4+6.

Presumably, Strix Halo's NPU is the same XDNA2 silicon, just clocked higher... same deal as between Phoenix and Hawk Point. A previous leak said 60 TOPS so they are really pushing it.

Split L3 cache with cross-CCX latency, so it's effectively no change from Phoenix for the fastest cores (16 MB).

The CCDs for Strix Halo being different than Granite Ridge is a new claim. I don't get why, if they aren't Zen 5c.

So in addition to believing AMD would ever use the Codename "Strix", we now are to believe they can't spell Kraken?

That spelling does get some use, and yeah, supposedly there are often misspelled codenames internally (some tidbit I heard from MLID).

Strix is a mythological bird, like the one you've heard of... Phoenix.

 

[usertests]

Will the desktop cpus actually get more cores? Or will the bottom end still start at 6 cores?

If it's using the same 8-core chiplets and fundamental design as Zen 2, then the bottom will be 6 cores. Technically the bottom could be as low as they want, remember Ryzen 3 3300X? But it doesn't make sense to disable 4 cores on these chiplets.

Desktop will get more cores if AMD puts 1-2x Zen 5c chiplets on it.

A layman or a vast majority of users, may or may NOT even know who this "Golden Pig' Chinese leaker actually is. So a much better heading would be anything like this. Just my thoughts.

*Sees Pig story, clicks* 😈

 

[peachpuff]

If it's using the same 8-core chiplets and fundamental design as Zen 2,

I thought they would switch to a 12 core chiplet by now, oh well.

 

[icebox768]

Who or what is Golden Pig one may even ask .

This Chinese leaker used to be a product manager in Lenovo Computer. He led the design of some Legion and Idealpad series notebooks during the epidemic.
He now works for a company related to the notebook business.
Most of his news comes from technical staff at Lenovo, Intel and AMD.

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

Yeah, I know about the Leaker's background a bit.

I was talking about other THW readers over here, and also folks on the internet/web in general, as many won't be aware of the Username/Alias on Forums. I mean the leaker name is not THAT popular enough to warrant a headline mention, imo. And the Username in itself also sounds a bit awkward (again, my opinion) .

Maybe you, I, and few others out here might be familiar with this leaker, but I doubt everyone else is on the same page.

So, the article should instead focus on some other heading/title which might be more suited and clear for the public in general. Just my 2 cents !

 

[NeoMorpheus]

Yeah, I know about the Leaker's background a bit.

I was talking about other THW readers over here, and also folks on the internet/web in general, as many won't be aware of the Username/Alias on Forums. I mean the leaker name is not THAT popular enough to warrant a headline mention, imo. And the Username in itself also sounds a bit awkward (again, my opinion) .

Maybe you, I, and few others out here might be familiar with this leaker, but I doubt everyone else is on the same page.

So, the article should instead focus on some other heading/title which might be more suited and clear for the public in general. Just my 2 cents !

Blame the typical negative bias towards AMD in this place.

Only Intel and Dear Leader Jensen company gets positive articles through and through.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

40 RDNA 3 CUs, that beast of a chip does not need a dedicated GPU!

 

[NinoPino]

Strix is a mythological bird, like the one you've heard of... Phoenix.

Interesting information, I've never heard of the strix in all my life.
Thank you.
As a sidenote, Google translator cannot translate in Italian the lowercase word "strix" but only the word "Strix".

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

Yeah, those are Mythical creatures.

In fact most of the codenames AMD, Intel and/or Nvidia use are based on some historical figure, scientists, researchers, Galaxy, stars/NAVI, solar system, iconic/historical places, and also aquatic/marine species, and even other references.

Some are also based on Greek mythological creatures/deities. There are many examples, but just for some reference, here is AMD's naming based on some Aquatic/marine species, dishes/flavors.

For the RDNA 2 GPUs comprising the Navi 2x series, we had fishy codenames like "Sienna Cichlid", "Navy Flounder", "Dimgrey Cavefish", and "Beige Goby".

Then we have the Navi 3X lineup:

• Plum Bonito (AMD Radeon RX 7900)
• Wheat Nas (AMD Radeon RX 7800 and 7700)
• Hotpink Bonefish (AMD Radeon RX 7600)
• Pink Sardine (AMD Ryzen 7000 and AMD Radeon 700M)

 

[TechyIT223]

Those are a lot of codenames.

Btw, I'm interested in the 40CU APU. It would be one helluva graphics processor for gaming. No need for a discreet GPU if we can play most of the modern games on medium high settings.

 

[usertests]

Those are a lot of codenames.

Btw, I'm interested in the 40CU APU. It would be one helluva graphics processor for gaming. No need for a discreet GPU if we can play most of the modern games on medium high settings.

The stars of the show will be the 256-bit bus and 32 MB Infinity (MALL?) Cache.

 

[TechyIT223]

It would be great to have more cache and I would like to see how this Mall cache stuff actually works in gaming

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

40 RDNA 3 CUs, that beast of a chip does not need a dedicated GPU!

Exactly ! That would be my future graphics processor for gaming, since I would be ditching dGPU in favor of iGPU if they continue to pack so much horsepower !

And since I'm a casual gamer, so for me it would be more than sufficient fro the type of games I play. Currently rocking an RTX 4060 8GB GPU btw.

 

[TechyIT223]

A 40 CU count GPU might be definitely faster than the RTX 4060 as well !!

 

[Kalik212]

I know AMD CEO Lisa Su will officially announce the new Zen 5 CPU's at Computex on June 3rd with the rumors of actual availability in July...any chance the new CPU's launch on June 3rd itself or maybe 1 week later?...I really want to build a new system before the Shadow of the Erdtree expansion launches on June 21

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

I know AMD CEO Lisa Su will officially announce the new Zen 5 CPU's at Computex on June 3rd with the rumors of actual availability in July...any chance the new CPU's launch on June 3rd itself or maybe 1 week later?...I really want to build a new system before the Shadow of the Erdtree expansion launches on June 21

No, not possible for them to launch on June 3rd itself.

Basically they only announce and officially confirm/unveil consumer products at computex. The launch usually takes place 2-3 months later.

AMD did the same during Computex 2022 where the Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" CPUs and the subsequent AM5 platforms were revealed to the public, but they were launched 3 months later, with market/retail availability.

 

[Kalik212]

No, not possible for them to launch on June 3rd itself.

Basically they only announce and officially confirm/unveil consumer products at computex. The launch usually takes place 2-3 months later.

AMD did the same during Computex 2022 where the Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" CPUs and the subsequent AM5 platforms were revealed to the public, but they were launched 3 months later, with market/retail availability.

I hope it's not that long of a wait (2- 3 months)...I'm hoping July at the latest

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

I'm not sure. But let's see what they announce at Computex session keynote. Just few weeks remaining to get some hint on the release date timeline.

 

[thestryker]

All of the Strix Halo leaks just confuse me to no end simply because of how expensive it has to be to make if the leaks are accurate. This leak makes it seem like they're using the same/similar multi chip process they used on the RX 7900 series of cards (though maybe this is just poor translation). It sounds like a really interesting SKU, but I just don't see how the costs involved will pan out though I'd love to be wrong.

Also curious how Strix will pan out given that it won't have the extra memory bandwidth or Infinity Cache assuming leaks are accurate but is increasing the CU count. Perhaps some compression or other improved memory management is what's making the architecture RDNA 3.5.