[SOLVED] Good Replacement Graphics Card for this build?

[Lord Huntington]

I am now at the final steps of building my PC. Thank you everyone here who gave me good advice.

https://imgur.com/a/TuiBzOV

View: https://imgur.com/a/TuiBzOV
This was the list I ended up with

But as I was about to add the list to my cart, I realised that the graphics card was out of stock in almost every store I checked.

I was wondering if anyone could recommend a replacement card in the same price range with similar qualities that is available for purchase right now? Location Sweden.

Any suggestions for the build is welcome. This is, however, as far as the budget stretches. So any changes needs to be in the same price range

Thankful for any input.

 

[Hellfire13]

What's your max budget(in KR) and why are you stuck with Amazon only??? You do realize that going with a single vendor will cost you more even though you get the same warranty on every part.

 

[Karadjgne]

Just a question, you are looking at a micro atx motherboard, a relatively small cpu/cooler, single gpu and a ton of space in that R6. You do realize that even if it's rated as a Mid Tower, it's bigger than some full towers.

I have the R5, which is intrinsically the same frame, trust me, it's massive. You could easily go with a far smaller case even a mATX tower, get better airflow and reclaim a ton of real estate.

Don't get me wrong, it's an awesome case, but you've realistically got next to nothing inside but a gpu, cooler and psu. That's a lot of money buying something so wasted.

To answer your question, a 10400F I'd not use anything more than a 3060 @ 1440p, or if staying with 1080p a 2070/2080 Super. If amd is your thing, a 6800, not the XT.

 

[Lord Huntington]

What's your max budget(in KR) and why are you stuck with Amazon only??? You do realize that going with a single vendor will cost you more even though you get the same warranty on every part.

Around 5000 ish, I'm going with 1 vendor because of convenience and since amazon usually is pretty cheap in my experience

 

[Lord Huntington]

Just a question, you are looking at a micro atx motherboard, a relatively small cpu/cooler, single gpu and a ton of space in that R6. You do realize that even if it's rated as a Mid Tower, it's bigger than some full towers.

I have the R5, which is intrinsically the same frame, trust me, it's massive. You could easily go with a far smaller case even a mATX tower, get better airflow and reclaim a ton of real estate.

Don't get me wrong, it's an awesome case, but you've realistically got next to nothing inside but a gpu, cooler and psu. That's a lot of money buying something so wasted.

To answer your question, a 10400F I'd not use anything more than a 3060 @ 1440p, or if staying with 1080p a 2070/2080 Super. If amd is your thing, a 6800, not the XT.

So what graphics card would you recommend that's currently for sale and in stock in Sweden ? There seems to be a bit of a graphics card shortage going on.

As for the caae, it was recommended to me by a user of this forum and I want something I can expand in as time passes, I also like the design

 

[hang-the-9]

So what graphics card would you recommend that's currently for sale and in stock in Sweden ? There seems to be a bit of a graphics card shortage going on.

As for the caae, it was recommended to me by a user of this forum and I want something I can expand in as time passes, I also like the design

If you are going to use a large case you should get a standard ATX motherboard so it does not look like a kid wearing adult clothing with all the extra space around it. There are so many video cards not in stock or at too high of a price all you can do is search for retailers you can buy from and hope to find something, or get a used card from someone that is upgrading, or wait a bit till things are in stock.

 

[QwerkyPengwen]

on top of searching known retailers for Sweden, you can try your luck with local used market.
If you have a craigslist or offer up or something similar to that you can use try that.

As for getting a 20 series card as of right now, even if it is in stock I would highly recommend against.
Would be a huge waste of money.
Hence why you should look at used for a good price.
Alternatively, you can go with a temporary solution of getting a more budget AMD card that won't cost very much to hold you over until 30 series actually comes in stock.

At which point you can get a 3060 Ti for your budget for sure.

 

[Hellfire13]

Around 5000 ish,

I meant for the whole build.

 

[Karadjgne]

I'd definitely opt for full ATX mobo. If for nothing else, it has the full range of available ports, such as storage, fan headers etc. MATX has a nasty tendency to short-change those especially, often only 4 Sata headers, 2 fan headers, limited lighting options, many times just a single pcie x16 or limited pcie x1 or x4 headers.

It's unbelievable the sheer amount of posts on this site alone, all to do with having 4 case fans and only 1 sys_fan header, or (Asus especially) white light vga errors (usually fixable by moving the gpu to the secondary pcie x16 temporarily).

You can get the same look from a smaller case such as the Fractal Design Define mini-C, S2, 7 Compact etc. You have options. And totally understand the recommendation, it is a great case as I said, but it's a LOT of case you just don't need. 2 optical bays? 9 HDD bays? 6 SSD mounts? That's a ton of expansion.

 

[Lord Huntington]

on top of searching known retailers for Sweden, you can try your luck with local used market.
If you have a craigslist or offer up or something similar to that you can use try that.

As for getting a 20 series card as of right now, even if it is in stock I would highly recommend against.
Would be a huge waste of money.
Hence why you should look at used for a good price.
Alternatively, you can go with a temporary solution of getting a more budget AMD card that won't cost very much to hold you over until 30 series actually comes in stock.

At which point you can get a 3060 Ti for your budget for sure.

Something like this would work good with this build? https://www.komplett.se/product/117...fikkort/msi-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-gaming-x-trio

My current PC is basically non functioning at the moment, do you know in how long realistically I could get a 3060? I'm currently without a system basically.

Or is there any solution for running games at low resolution until the new card arrives?

 

[Lord Huntington]

I'd definitely opt for full ATX mobo. If for nothing else, it has the full range of available ports, such as storage, fan headers etc. MATX has a nasty tendency to short-change those especially, often only 4 Sata headers, 2 fan headers, limited lighting options, many times just a single pcie x16 or limited pcie x1 or x4 headers.

What do you think would be a good motherboard to match this case?

 

[Lord Huntington]

I meant for the whole build.

Original budget was sek 10 000, that got inflated to about 13 000 now. Graphics card needs to be in the 5-6 000 range

 

[Karadjgne]

Supply and demand vs when you pay attn. Stores might get a shipment, yet be sold out in minutes, so you miss the opportunity. With as good as the 3060ti is, even handling some milder 4k, and it's price tag, ppl are desperate to buy, with limited supply. So there's no saying exactly when you'll get to purchase one.

 

[Lord Huntington]

Supply and demand vs when you pay attn. Stores might get a shipment, yet be sold out in minutes, so you miss the opportunity. With as good as the 3060ti is, even handling some milder 4k, and it's price tag, ppl are desperate to buy, with limited supply. So there's no saying exactly when you'll get to purchase one.

So if I place a preorder for something like this https://www.komplett.se/product/117...fikkort/msi-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-gaming-x-trio
Is there any way of getting the system barely operational for low graphics low fps gaming until the new card arrives?

 

[Hellfire13]

Original budget was sek 10 000, that got inflated to about 13 000 now. Graphics card needs to be in the 5-6 000 range

You can consider this build...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-10600 3.3 GHz 6-Core Processor | kr2386.00 @ Computersalg
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler | kr365.93 @ Amazon Sweden
Motherboard | ASRock H470 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX LGA1200 Motherboard | kr997.50 @ CDON SE
Memory | G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory | kr649.00 @ Webhallen
Storage | Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | kr1034.49 @ Amazon Sweden
Video Card | MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card | kr5537.75 @ Dustin Home
Case | Corsair 275R Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case | kr849.00 @ Amazon Sweden
Power Supply | SeaSonic FOCUS 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | kr1019.43 @ Amazon Sweden
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | kr12839.10
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-12-10 15:41 CET+0100 |

All parts are in stock at the time of posting.

 

[Karadjgne]

So if I place a preorder for something like this https://www.komplett.se/product/117...fikkort/msi-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-gaming-x-trio
Is there any way of getting the system barely operational for low graphics low fps gaming until the new card arrives?

No. The 10400 F does not have an igpu. Meaning there's absolutely no video output anywhere from motherboard or cpu until you drop in a discrete gpu. The only way you'll get any graphics is if you used a 10400 non-F or other cpu that's not F rated.

 

[Lord Huntington]

You can consider this build...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-10600 3.3 GHz 6-Core Processor | kr2386.00 @ Computersalg
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler | kr365.93 @ Amazon Sweden
Motherboard | ASRock H470 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX LGA1200 Motherboard | kr997.50 @ CDON SE
Memory | G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory | kr649.00 @ Webhallen
Storage | Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | kr1034.49 @ Amazon Sweden
Video Card | MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card | kr5537.75 @ Dustin Home
Case | Corsair 275R Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case | kr849.00 @ Amazon Sweden
Power Supply | SeaSonic FOCUS 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | kr1019.43 @ Amazon Sweden
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | kr12839.10
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-12-10 15:41 CET+0100 |

All parts are in stock at the time of posting.

Thank you for the suggestion! This really does seem like something I would considergoing with. If you don't mind, do you think you could explain some of the differences between this and the list I had from the start? Are there advantages / disadvantages ? I'm quite new to hardware and I'm having a hart time looking at the name of components and getting a feeling of what it means in reality.

 

[Karadjgne]

Cpu is stronger, has more threads, faster, igpu.

Cpu cooler is personal, I prefer the Arctic.

Ram, it's an intel, either is good, save a few Kr.

H series motherboards have just about all the bells and whistles of the Z series board, just no OC. You'll get more usable stuff like fan/lighting headers, storage access, multiple pcie headers etc.

3060ti is a mild 4k card, the 2070 Super is not. 30 series cards are better attuned to DLSS and Ray tracing than the 20 series cards, so when you use that in a game (v.1 or v.2) that supports it, it's a considerable freebie boost in fps.

It's an NVME, faster than the Sata ssd, only really shows in large file transfers, but still an upgrade.

Corsair 275R is a very decent case. Not quite as useful as the FD R6, but for most ppl it's plenty good enough.

Pretty much the only thing from the original build that's a bonus but would be the psu. Seasonic Focus series is out of production, it's an older unit, replaced by the Core series more than several months back. And either way, the Corsair RMx is the better psu.

 

[Hellfire13]

Thank you for the suggestion! This really does seem like something I would consider going with. If you don't mind, do you think you could explain some of the differences between this and the list I had from the start? Are there advantages / disadvantages ? I'm quite new to hardware and I'm having a hart time looking at the name of components and getting a feeling of what it means in reality.

CPU is stronger..
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-10600-vs-Intel-Core-i5-10400F/4069vs4079

Cooler is more or less similar. Anything better than than the Intel stock is good enough, and this is a locked chip so you wont need over the top cooling solution anyways.

Motherboard is better. You can find the difference between b460 and h470 in this article...

ASRock Reveals Intel H470, B460, H410 Motherboards For 10th Gen Comet Lake CPUs

Inexpensive options for Comet Lake.

www.tomshardware.com

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RAM is sufficient. The highest frequency any chipset other than z490 can run is 2933mhz anyway. So your original choice and my recommended kit will both ramp down to 2933mhz by default.

NVME is faster than sata SSD...
https://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compa...2-1TB-vs-Samsung-860-Evo-1TB/m994217vsm423831

GPU is what you desired.

Case is pretty good for the build with adequate airflow and cable management. I am using one and pretty much no complaints.

PSU is similar to the one you got, just a little cheaper. Both Seasonic and Corsair make some excellent PSUs and Focus GX is one of their good quality units with excellent track record. You can use this chart for reference, you will find both in Tier A...

[EOL] PSU Tier List rev. 14.8

PSU Tier List 4.0 rev. 14.8 (END OF LIFE) Last Update: 27-07-2021 Legend : Gray - EoL/obsolete and/or otherwise not recommended for purchase. Green - small form-factor (gold and blue colors are disregarded due to scarcity of SFX PSUs) Gold - best units in the tier (includes requirements for blue ...

linustechtips.com

 

[Lord Huntington]

@Hellfire13 @Karadjgne and other contributors, thank you so much for all the help.

I ended up scrapping the old build and went for pretty much exactly the suggested build with a different gpu manufacturer due to availability and a 750 watt psu I got a good deal on. I also added a cheap ssd to have windows on.

All your input was extremely valuable and making me understand why you recommended what you recommended was also great.

 

[Hellfire13]

welcome...cheers