Graphics Card Shortages to Improve in May

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That would only be true if Nvidia could only make money off of the GTX 600 series. Nvidia has many other products (such as previous gen cards and Tegra).
 
True but entry level gaming is not what a 680 card is for,Which is in shortage. If you are one of the people hanging for a 680 or 690 card, Then I doubt you will be tolerant enough to use the onboard graphics to run multiple screens or high res texture packs needing a card with a few gb's on it.
I would rather just buy a last gen card which is still better than onboard.
 


My joke was that this article says that GK104 supply is supposed to improve and you said that you heard of this somewhere instead of saying that you also heard of it somewhere else. I wasn't questioning the validity of the claim (I don't know either way, but supply almost HAS to improve sometime, right?), hence the /s for sarcasm.
 


Technically, you said onboard so my point was kinda wrong because Llano (and the HD graphics) are on-die graphics (built into the CPU), not on-board graphics (built into the motherboard), but I was going out on a limb by assuming that you actually meant all integrated graphics. You said this:

Think I will stick to a dedicated card thanks, Gaming pc's shouldn't be using on board graphics at all!
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That is an all-encompassing statement about gaming computers and was wrong because gaming computers based on Llano should use the integrated graphics. This was a different argument than the 680/690 argument that I was saying. I was not saying anything about the 680/690 in this one.

EDIT: Also, I'd be careful about the high resolutions, quality settings, and AA on the 680 and 690. They have 2GB pf VRAM per GPU and that can be limiting for 2560x1440 to triple 1920x1200. Anything more than that is pretty much always limited, unless you drop quality severely (granted, those are pretty damn good resolutions anyway). My problem with this is more of longevity than current problems. The 680 can struggle in many situations now, how bad will it be with more intensive games a year or two from now? It does not seem like a good buy for the long term, unless you manage to get a 4GB 680 or 8GB 690 (4GB per GPU).

The problem with that is 512MB RAM chips are a good deal more expensive than two 256MB RAM chips and 256MB RAM chips are what gives the 680/690 2GB per GPU, so 512MB would be necessary for 4GB. The 7970 seems slightly worse in the short term, but seems like a better long term buy if you want to significantly drop the chances of needing to replace your graphics soon. Not needing a replacement before three years from now or so should pay for the money spent on the electricity bill and then still have some left over even if you had the 7970(s) running 24/7 (at stock, results may vary more with overclocks).
 
😉 /S sorry missed that part lol

In all honesty I am not that eager to see the 690 or even more 680's in stock for a while, I know us(Aussies) are going to get ripped off bigtime despite our strong dollar, Wouldn't surprise me if it retails for $1200 or more the 690 that is, Think I would rather see AMD's response with the 7990 first.
 
Totally agree with you about 680 not a good buy for long term which is why I am still using 480's in SLI, Usually I jump straight onto any new cards on day one but something in me just was expecting more from the 680, In my mind I still think the GK104 is midrange rebadged as high end. Was hoping for the GK110 but when or if that eventuates who knows,Just hope it is 3rd or 4th quarter if it doe exist.
 


Ehh, no harm done, so it's okay. I've noticed that Australia seems to have some of the most ridiculous prices for a lot of tech that I've ever seen, so my condolences for that. I assume that the cause for the prices are some huge tariffs, even worse than the 25% tariffs in many parts of Europe.
 
Anything over 1k we now have to pay a hefty import duty on as well, So no luck trying to import a card even if they were in stock in US. 🙁
There are silly loopholes like if you can get supplier to tick the "gift box" postal slip, But ahhhh not into doing the dodgy stuff myself, Am always the unlucky ah heck that gets caught! :)
 


Heh, sorry, but you guys just can't seem to catch a break. What if you got an American friend to buy it and ship it to you as a gift, then you pay then the money? That might be legal.

Well, it's past 3:30 AM here in the USA and I need to wake up for work in less than four hours, so I think that it's time for me to go to sleep 🙁
 
[citation][nom]IQ11110002[/nom]Don't worry by the time you can actually buy a 680 or even a 690 it will be time for the 780GTX. I hear they are ramping up this month anyway so shortages won't be so bad in a few weeks.99% of you are most likely gaming on 1900x1200 or 1920x1080 screens anyway and probably 1 screen at that, Not like you NEED a 680 or 690 to run anything at a playable 30fps,Last gen cards are more than adequate. My 480's still handle everything and will easily last till there is new stock![/citation]
30 FPS is not what I, and many, consider playable. Until I hit 50 FPS, I have bad motion sickness issues and it isn't until 75-90 fps that it stops completely (I have a 120hz monitor, which changed things a lot in that regard).
 
[citation][nom]bystander[/nom]30 FPS is not what I, and many, consider playable. Until I hit 50 FPS, I have bad motion sickness issues and it isn't until 75-90 fps that it stops completely (I have a 120hz monitor, which changed things a lot in that regard).[/citation]

Two 480s should be able to handle most games at 1080p in the frame rates that you want. However, if you want to game at up to 90FPS at 2560x1600 or something similar, then sure, then the 690, SLI 680, CF 7970, or CF 7950 are practically necessary. The games aren't fluid to me until I get high FPS like that too, but I don't have a high budget at all, so it's either high FPS with lower quality or higher quality with lower frame rates. So low budget that it's a 120Hz CRT :) Still way better than a 60Hz LED/LCD of the same price.
 
[citation][nom]blazorthon[/nom]New transistor node processes almost always have poor supply for a while. Check out how Radeon 5000 did on supply for the first year or so after it's launch and how Radeon 7000 did for the first few weeks. Of course, Radeon 7000 recuperated far faster than Nvidia did and that's saying something considering that AMD is able to keep six Radeon 7000 model GPUs in supply (even if it's only three different GPUs and the other three are cut down versions of the full GPUs). Come on, TSMC!!![/citation]

Then you should realize that it is most likely Nvidia's fault on their design and not TSMC for the poor yields if AMD can more or less keep a steady flow with the 7000 series.
 
[citation][nom]gilgamex[/nom]Then you should realize that it is most likely Nvidia's fault on their design and not TSMC for the poor yields if AMD can more or less keep a steady flow with the 7000 series.[/citation]

Actually no... It's TSMC. They either have poor yields on small chips such as the GK104 or they just don't have enough 28nm factories producing GK104. Either way, it's TSMC, not Nvidia. AMD uses a slightly different 28nm process and TSMC had it working sooner than the one that Nvidia is using, so they were able to get it up and running with high supply more quickly. It's a very slightly lower performance process, but it meant that AMD would be first to market with high supply. Nvidia didn't want to compromise, so they waited for the better process. TSMC seems to be having some trouble getting this one working right, or they just haven't got mass-production going yet.
 
OMG, Well I guess I was out by a longshot this time, Think I said earlier that I wouldn't be surprised if the 690 was $1200 or more, Well the "or more" part alright 😵
Check this out for ludicrous Aussie prices, And this is one of the best places to buy parts sigh.....

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=20169

$1600 for the 690GTX 😵
Looks like even I will NOT be buying a top end card this round. Don't like my chances for a future 780GTX either going off 690 price, Shudder to think what the price would be for such a card.
Really need you guys over in red camp to bring out a dualie. Equal or better it doesn't matter, With no competition the 690 is a rip off.
 
I think Intel would be proud of Nvidia, Overtaking their "Extreme version"cpu prices and even surpassing 3 of their top Xeon cpu's in price. hehehehe
 


newegg has a 690 for $1200. It's probably not in stock, but it was $1200 the last time that I checked. Besides, other than the coolness factor, what's there to do with the 690 right now? It has so little VRAM for it's performance that it would often need AA kept down just to run a game at the quality and resolution that would be demanded by it's performance. It could be great for 120Hz play (with or without 3D) at 2560x1600 or 2560x1440, but otherwise, not so great for a lot of things.
 
I do run on a 27 inch 120hz screen in 3d(depending on game), Think I will stick with my 480's for a while though. For me my limit would be 1k for any card that comes out, Rather buy another 2 screens first. :)
 
[citation][nom]IQ11110002[/nom]I do run on a 27 inch 120hz screen in 3d(depending on game), Think I will stick with my 480's for a while though. For me my limit would be 1k for any card that comes out, Rather buy another 2 screens first.[/citation]

How about two GTX 680s instead of a 690? Either way, good luck.
 
[citation][nom]blazorthon[/nom]How about two GTX 680s instead of a 690? Either way, good luck.[/citation]

On that note, two GTX 670s and save some money while getting nearly identical performance and saving a little power too.
 
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