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I have purchased a retail, boxed, Pentium 4 2.8Ghz CPU. The heatsink has a
square grease pad on it where it is placed on the CPU. I have some Arctic
Silver III grease that I would prefer to use. Anybody know of a reason why
I should not use the Arctic Silver ??

MP
 
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No reason not to use it.

"MP" <whoknows@junk.com> wrote in message
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>I have purchased a retail, boxed, Pentium 4 2.8Ghz CPU. The heatsink has a
> square grease pad on it where it is placed on the CPU. I have some Arctic
> Silver III grease that I would prefer to use. Anybody know of a reason
> why
> I should not use the Arctic Silver ??
>
> MP
>
>
>
 
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On Sun, 23 May 2004 03:30:26 +0000, MP wrote:

> I have purchased a retail, boxed, Pentium 4 2.8Ghz CPU. The heatsink
> has a square grease pad on it where it is placed on the CPU. I have
> some Arctic Silver III grease that I would prefer to use. Anybody know
> of a reason why I should not use the Arctic Silver ??

Because in a year or two you will probably have to remove the heatsink,
clean boths surfaces, and re-apply new grease (as opposed to doing nothing
if you use the factory pad)?

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Ixnei wrote:

> On Sun, 23 May 2004 03:30:26 +0000, MP wrote:
>
> > I have purchased a retail, boxed, Pentium 4 2.8Ghz CPU. The heatsink
> > has a square grease pad on it where it is placed on the CPU. I have
> > some Arctic Silver III grease that I would prefer to use. Anybody know
> > of a reason why I should not use the Arctic Silver ??
>
> Because in a year or two you will probably have to remove the heatsink,
> clean boths surfaces, and re-apply new grease (as opposed to doing nothing
> if you use the factory pad)?

Bullsh!t

I've installed Arctic Silver under my Pentium 4 2.8C processor a year ago.
The chip sensor indicates the same die temperature now as it did then.
The thermal interface has not degraded at all.

One reason to not use Arctic Silver instead is because of the warranty
issues you can get into with Intel in the very unlikely instance that the cpu
should fail.

BTW, it is a bad idea to remove the cpu/heatsink unless you absolutely have
to.
you stand an excellent chance of bending pins and damaging the zif socket.
The thermal interface sticks firmly to the cpu, including the intel pad and
they don't separate easily. Leave it be once installed.
 
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On Sun, 23 May 2004 20:52:53 GMT, snoozy <noone@nowhere.net> wrote:


>One reason to not use Arctic Silver instead is because of the warranty
>issues you can get into with Intel in the very unlikely instance that the cpu
>should fail.

What warranty isssue? I'm not obligated to use their HSF, am I? They
warrant the cpu and I can use any HSF I choose is how I see it.
 
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I would agree with Slug, an OEM cpu comes without a heatsink,
so you must provide you own heatsink of your choice.
"Slug" <no@email.here> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 23 May 2004 20:52:53 GMT, snoozy <noone@nowhere.net> wrote:
>
>
> >One reason to not use Arctic Silver instead is because of the warranty
> >issues you can get into with Intel in the very unlikely instance that the
cpu
> >should fail.
>
> What warranty isssue? I'm not obligated to use their HSF, am I? They
> warrant the cpu and I can use any HSF I choose is how I see it.
 
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I would presume the HS/FAN has to meet their specs to keep the
warranty in effect.... But!! Intel OEM or "tray" packaged parts only
have a warranty through the reseller anyway and they can basically
make it whatever they want.

Leon Rowell


netreaper wrote:
> I would agree with Slug, an OEM cpu comes without a heatsink,
> so you must provide you own heatsink of your choice.
> "Slug" <no@email.here> wrote in message
> news:nrc2b0t78dqsetqosge1b42l1qtduisj70@4ax.com...
>
>>On Sun, 23 May 2004 20:52:53 GMT, snoozy <noone@nowhere.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>One reason to not use Arctic Silver instead is because of the warranty
>>>issues you can get into with Intel in the very unlikely instance that the
>>
> cpu
>
>>>should fail.
>>
>>What warranty isssue? I'm not obligated to use their HSF, am I? They
>>warrant the cpu and I can use any HSF I choose is how I see it.
>
>
>
 
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with an OEM version, you would be correct. with the retail boxed version,
not. the retail boxed version usually has a completely different warranty
than the OEM version anyway.

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"Slug" <no@email.here> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 23 May 2004 20:52:53 GMT, snoozy <noone@nowhere.net> wrote:
>
>
> >One reason to not use Arctic Silver instead is because of the warranty
> >issues you can get into with Intel in the very unlikely instance that the
cpu
> >should fail.
>
> What warranty isssue? I'm not obligated to use their HSF, am I? They
> warrant the cpu and I can use any HSF I choose is how I see it.
 
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On Sun, 23 May 2004 16:29:09 -0700, Slug <no@email.here> wrote:

>On Sun, 23 May 2004 20:52:53 GMT, snoozy <noone@nowhere.net> wrote:

>>One reason to not use Arctic Silver instead is because of the warranty
>>issues you can get into with Intel in the very unlikely instance that the cpu
>>should fail.

>What warranty isssue? I'm not obligated to use their HSF, am I? They
>warrant the cpu and I can use any HSF I choose is how I see it.

Info only :

AMD allow ' Shin Estu G 749 ' for ' evaluation purposes ' only, the
exception to the rule is the ' Opteron ', here they recommend ' Etsu G
749 ' for permanent installation.

-Reason is thermal pumpout !
-Only applies to retail boxed chips
-There is no warranty at all on OEM chips

BoroLad
 
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On Mon, 24 May 2004 06:55:28 -0400, "TomG" <tgeery-NOSPAM-@cox.net>
wrote:

>with an OEM version, you would be correct. with the retail boxed version,
>not. the retail boxed version usually has a completely different warranty
>than the OEM version anyway.

Clarification then Tom - you are saying that grease rather than TIM's
on the PIB's do not invalidate AMD's [ not supplier ] warranty ?

BoroLad
 
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I have to beg off on that one as I have never become familiar with AMD's
warranty. apologies if it sounded like that was the direction I was
headed... I have a funny feeling that AMD and Intel, both, would say that
the TIM needed to be in place with a retail boxed version of the CPU.

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<borolad@myowseintheboro.org> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 24 May 2004 06:55:28 -0400, "TomG" <tgeery-NOSPAM-@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
> >with an OEM version, you would be correct. with the retail boxed
version,
> >not. the retail boxed version usually has a completely different
warranty
> >than the OEM version anyway.
>
> Clarification then Tom - you are saying that grease rather than TIM's
> on the PIB's do not invalidate AMD's [ not supplier ] warranty ?
>
> BoroLad
 
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On Mon, 24 May 2004 16:40:42 -0400, "TomG" <tgeery-NOSPAM-@cox.net>
wrote:

>I have to beg off on that one as I have never become familiar with AMD's
>warranty. apologies if it sounded like that was the direction I was
>headed... I have a funny feeling that AMD and Intel, both, would say that
>the TIM needed to be in place with a retail boxed version of the CPU.

'S ok mate, I genuinely thought I'd missed something.

Respect, BoroLad
 
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