[SOLVED] GTX 1660 TI or AMD Radeon 5700

[Ki-Kak]

I want to build a gaming pc. My budget is around 800. My build includes a ryzen 5 3600 cpu. I wanted to pair this cpu with a 1660 ti at first, Then I saw that the place that i'm buying from is also selling a AMD Radeon 5700 for the same price of 300 dollars. Which one should I purchase? Another question i have is that which motherboard is good for the ryzen 5 3600 cpu ? I was thinking about a GIGABYTE B450 AORUS Elite Gaming Motherboard, but pc partpicker says "Warning!Some AMD B450 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Matisse CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions". What does this mean, and what other motherboard should i get for the ryzen 3600?

 

[Phaaze88]

I wanted to pair this cpu with a 1660 ti at first,

1660 Super. Better value, similar performance.

Then I saw that the place that i'm buying from is also selling a AMD Radeon 5700 for the same price of 300 dollars.

What's the EXACT model of this 5700?
All the reference models and a couple of the aftermarket ones are equipped with crappy coolers.

I was thinking about a GIGABYTE B450 AORUS Elite Gaming Motherboard, but pc partpicker says "Warning!Some AMD B450 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Matisse CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions".

That one doesn't support Ryzen 3000 out of the box. It requires a bios update using an older 1000 or 2000 cpu. If you're lucky, you could receive a more recent mobo model that already has the updated bios - not that I'd want to take a chance with that.

what other motherboard should i get for the ryzen 3600?

X570: costs more, but you'll be able to 'plug and play' without having to deal with the bios update hassle.
-Asus Prime X570P
-Asus X570 TUF Gaming WIFI

B450:
-Any of Msi's MAX motherboards
-Models that specifically include a USB Bios Flashback feature

 

[Ki-Kak]

1660 Super. Better value, similar performance.

I searched up game data for both of these graphics cards and a majority of the time, the radeon comes out on top, sometimes with a more than 20 frames more. This is the video i saw

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsF4HbpRQi4
. I think worded it wrong, but the place I am buying from have both graphics cards listed at 300 dollars. Is the 1660 ti still worth it if they are the same price?


What's the EXACT model of this 5700?
All the reference models and a couple of the aftermarket ones are equipped with crappy coolers.


https://www.bestbuy.com/site/xfx-dd...0-graphics-card-black/6389373.p?skuId=6389373 I'm forced into buying most of the components from bestbuy because I was given a 700 dollar giftcard from them years ago for a faulty prebuilt pc I bought from them.
That one doesn't support Ryzen 3000 out of the box. It requires a bios update using an older 1000 or 2000 cpu. If you're lucky, you could receive a more recent mobo model that already has the updated bios - not that I'd want to take a chance with that.


X570: costs more, but you'll be able to 'plug and play' without having to deal with the bios update hassle.
-Asus Prime X570P
-Asus X570 TUF Gaming WIFI

B450:
-Any of Msi's MAX motherboards
-Models that specifically include a USB Bios Flashback feature

How difficult is it to do a bios update and is the
MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ok without a bios update. It's around the same price as the first motherboard that I listed. It says it the samething on the pcpartpicker page, but you and the youtuber i watched for some of the parts said this motherboard is very much compatible. Sorry for this weird text, I don't know how this happened. I also don't know how to quote properly so my reply's are also up top as well.

 

[Phaaze88]

-Where I said 'better value, similar performance', I was comparing the 1660 Super to the 1660Ti, not the RX 5700.

-https://www.bestbuy.com/site/xfx-dd-ultra-amd-radeon-rx-5700-8gb-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-graphics-card-black/6389373.p?skuId=6389373
Ohh, big no-no. That's just an XFX THICC without the chrome accents. The cooler is terrible on that card. Too much plastic nonsense covering it:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwczmQNHVfo

How difficult is it to do a bios update

Pretty easy.

-Back to my first post: any of Msi's MAX motherboards work out of the box with Ryzen 3000. Pcpartpicker isn't up to date on the matter.

 

[Ki-Kak]

-https://www.bestbuy.com/site/xfx-dd-ultra-amd-radeon-rx-5700-8gb-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-graphics-card-black/6389373.p?skuId=6389373
Ohh, big no-no. That's just an XFX THICC without the chrome accents. The cooler is terrible on that card. Too much plastic nonsense covering it:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwczmQNHVfo

Question. If I do buy the THIIIICCCCCCC graphics card, what will happen to it since it is so THIIIIC? It seems like it has better performance from the videos, but I assume that the gpu will have a much higher temperature. But why is that a problem? Is the motherboard actually titled THICC ??
Pretty easy.

-Back to my first post: any of Msi's MAX motherboards work out of the box with Ryzen 3000. Pcpartpicker isn't up to date on the matter.
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Ok, i think that i'll purchase that motherboard. How do i check how many fan headers the gpu has before I purchase?

 

[DMAN999]

Please post your pcpartpicker list link so we can see what exact model components you are considering buying.

 

[Ki-Kak]

Please post your pcpartpicker list link so we can see what exact model components you are considering buying.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6qHNp8 And for cpu cooler im gonna use the stock cooler.

sorry if im responding very slowly, the notifications i get are getting classified as spam for some reason.

 

[DMAN999]

Personally I would recommend this RAM:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Cf98TW/gskill-memory-f43200c16d16gvkb

And this PSU:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2H...-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020178-na

And IMO for $299 that 5700 is a pretty good deal.

 

[Ki-Kak]

Personally I would recommendthis RAM:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Cf98TW/gskill-memory-f43200c16d16gvkb

And this PSU:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2H...-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020178-na

And IMO for $299 that 5700 is a pretty good deal.

Ok thanks for helping. My last question for my build is how do i know how many fan headers there are on my computer build ? And should i go for this ram instead https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jB...-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-16gvkc . Its like 7 dollars more but it says it faster. And should i switch my gpu to this one https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-me...0-graphics-card-black/6374967.p?skuId=6374967 . It's technically the same price as the game it comes with on download is 40 dollars.

 

[DMAN999]

That F4-3600C16D-16GVKC RAM kit is Not listed as compatible on the MSI compatibility list or by G.Skill.
Which is why I posted the link to the 3200 kit that is on your MB's QVL and G.Skills compatibility list.
That 3600 kit might not work at it's rated speed of 3600 on that motherboard, but the 3200 kit is guaranteed to run at 3200 by MSI and G.Skill.

As for the MSI 5700, I personally have an MSI GTX 1660 Ti Armor OC and an MSI RTX 2060 Super Armor OC and they both work very well for me.
So I would have no problem recommending that MSI 5700 Mech OC.

 

[Ki-Kak]

That F4-3600C16D-16GVKC RAM kit is Not listed as compatible on the MSI compatibility list or by G.Skill.
Which is why I posted the link to the 3200 kit that is on your MB's QVL and G.Skills compatibility list.
That 3600 kit might not work at it's rated speed of 3600 on that motherboard, but the 3200 kit is guaranteed to run at 3200 by MSI and G.Skill.

As for the MSI 5700, I personally have an MSI GTX 1600 Ti Armor OC and an MSI RTX 2060 Super Armor OC and they both work very well for me.
So I would have no problem recommending that MSI 5700 Mech OC.

sorry if I keep bugging you, but should i go for this gpu instead https://www.bestbuy.com/site/xfx-am...rd-with-zero-db-black/6375963.p?skuId=6375963. Its one of the cheapers radeon 5700 xt?

 

[DMAN999]

That's not a bad card but apparently it runs a bit warm.
Watch this:

View: https://youtu.be/ejX09sRGPPg

 

[Ki-Kak]

That's not a bad card but apparently it runs a bit warm.
Watch this:

View: https://youtu.be/ejX09sRGPPg

Ok thanks for helping me out with my pc build