GTX 570 Price Drop vs Radeon HD 7850 - Which to pair with IB CPU?

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Matt1990

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Hey guys.

I am going back and forth between the GTX 570 and Radeon HD 7850. Yes, I realize there are other threads comparing the two, but, I can't find one that is up to date now that the GTX 570 dropped in price by quite a bit.

I defenitely won't ever run SLI/Crossfire and will be using a single monitor at 1920x1080.

Here is the GTX 570-AR (Limited Lifetime Warranty) for $259.99 after rebate, free shipping.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130593


Here is the XFX Radeon HD 7850 for $239.99 and it comes with 2 free games.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150608

My question is, now that the 570 is around $40.00 (maybe more?) cheaper, is it worth getting over the 7850? Will I even need 2GB VRAM for single monitor at 1920x1080? Also keep in mind I will be playing Blizzard Games (WoW, D3) BF3, BFBC2, Skyrim, and possibly a few others. I heard that Radeon cards don't play Blizzard games well. I also heard that Radeon cards have some driver issues, and AMD sacrificed image quality for improved benchmark scores, have these been fixed? So, which one do you guys suggest, and why?
 
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Can't decide !
570: performance, (drivers?), plays blizzard games better
Or
7850: lower price, cooler, less power, newer technology, more
VRAM(although do I really need it with 1 monitor?), free games if I get the XFX version

Did I miss anything?
 
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I would still include lower price for the 7850. Not only is it slightly cheaper, but comes with games that will either save you money, or a code you can sell to someone. And because it has a lower TDP your PSU won't need to draw as much power from the wall, so your electric bill should be lower with the 7850 as well.

You also keep talking about nvidia playing blizzard games better.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/diablo-iii-performance-benchmark,3195-5.html

Looking at the 1080 graph, I'm not sure I see it. The GTX580 is slightly on top of the 7870 (570 and 7850 I would think would be just under both of these) but both are so far ahead of 60FPS that I don't think you'd be able to tell. Again, if I was buying just looking at cost and performance and I'd get the 7850. I just don't see what that extra $20 gets me other then no games and more power draw.
 
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Speaking of performance, GTX 570 gives you literally few FPS more than HD 7850, that really isn't noticeable.

My factory overclocked HD 7850 doesn't exceed 59 °C after hours in BF3 or Crysis (both on ultra/enthusiast settings), I think that says enough about its coolness.

As for Blizzard games, they don't have high requirements and will run 100+ FPS on both cards anyway.
 
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not arguing just saying and $20 will not hurt me, did you read AND UNDERSTAND it's a personal preference.?

so why are you trying to argue.?
state you opinion to the OP and move on....
another case of my card is this and my card is that....
not worth it.
which ever card is his choice and he has his opinions pros and cons (if any) for each.
it's not about you...
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Dude, take a sedative. Using the word "argument" doesn't mean someone is getting in your face. In your case, it meant A course of reasoning aimed at demonstrating truth", or "A fact or statement put forth as proof or evidence" calm down.

While you may not feel $20 over the course of several months as much as you would up front, it's still $20. Power consumption is still a part of the cost to own the card.
 
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I feel that power consumption does matter. Not to the point that I base my choice on it entirely, but when comparing similar chips its something to consider. For example the GTX460 and 6850 have rather similar performance levels. If I'm looking at buying one and they are both $125, I'll have to use some other metric to decide which to buy. Bundle, warranty, cooler, and yes, power usage will factor in. It also plays a bigger part when you consider your PSU. As the 6850 can run on a PSU that has only one PCIe plug. Power draw isn't the end all, but it shouldn't be ignored either.
 
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Wasn't following. Tend to tune out arguments unless something really wrong is mentioned. (P3 is faster then Q6600 for example.) There are those who want the biggest/best stuff and nothing wrong with that. And I wouldn't run a 7750 just because the TDP is lower then X card. As I said the power draw is something to consider, just like performance or any other metric.
 
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get a clue...
(and a real processor..)
:kaola:

I don't live at home with my momma and daddy.
I can afford whatever, if your worried about small money like that I want and do not have to worry about an extra $20 a year adding up to make my utility bill too high to pay.
then you need to get a job after school..
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Yep, I must be living in my parents basement because I disagree with you and I'm not using a 2500k in my gaming rig. Solid logic there.

I don' recall making personal attacks on you. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Just because it's your personal preference to use a more power hungry card doesn't mean everyone wants to waste money like you do, and making recommendations based on that is irresponsible. It's ironic your tag caption is numbers never lie, yet you insist on excluding cost to own as a factor even when performance numbers between the cards are a wash.

I can break this down farther too.
3 x HD 6770 in CF-X but since HE GETS NOTHING FROM X4/ SLOT.....
he's basically running (dual) overclocked HD 6770's.
HD 6770 are rebranded HD 5770's.
it would be different if we were talking about HD 7770 but were not.....

I'm not sure rebranded HD 6770 in 3x CF-X @ x8/x8/x4 could even catch a single GTX 580...
might have a hard time out performing an overclocked GTX 570 as well.
kinda lame...
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Wrong again.

Actually, the 6770 is the fastest card you can use that isn't hindered by 4 pci-e 2.0 lanes, and 3 6770's ($300) easily match a gtx 580 ($400)

http://www.guru3d.com/article/powercolor-radeon-5770-single-slot-quad-crossfirex-review/8

Most gaming builds on these forums are pretty imbalanced, using far more processor than you need for your video solution.

Try to stick to the applicable numbers instead of degenerating into insults and irrelevant dick-measuring, please.
 
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2x 5770's back in the day equaled a 5870.. so how the hell does 3 add up to a 580 considering all the scaling issues after 2 cards... and a crappy slow CPU to even power them.
Mal may have come across a bit sharp, but he had a decent point in his waffle.

If you actually had a point... you would be doing this in a different light and not trying to stick up for your purchase.

You buy what you like and you enjoy what you like.
Stupidity is different...
6770 CFX is a good setup, but i doubt even that x3 can handle them properly, let alone 3 cards...


LOL is a 2500k too much for 850mhz 480's?... maybe.. but at least i am not held back...
Your point is a little fragile and leaning towards silly.
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My point was in the first paragraph. Regardless of personal preferences, recommending hardware to others should be objective. Ignoring cost-to-own isn't. The insults sure aren't.

And yes, the x3 does handle them. Crysis Warhead's Ambush level averaged 55 fps on my machine with 4x msaa, which is slightly better than the benchmarks in the link.

btw, you two decided to bring personal system specs into this discussion, Yet you accuse me of irrelevant banter? More Irony.

Try civility.
 
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Is it not true? if it is truth it is not accusations.. the truth is in your own words.. pulled up benchies did you not?
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Are you intentionally going in circles? I made the point for the thread in the first paragraph of that post, then went on to address your comments. Which I also already said.

If Malmetal is working in enterprise IT, I'm really surprised at him dismissing power consumption. He should know that small bits add up really fast.

3x crossfire does have isue with a few games (CoD in those benchmarks), but for $100 cheaper than a 580, it's pretty damn good...and it was about $170 cheaper than a 580 when I bought them.
 
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power consumption in the workplace and for servers running 24/7 is one thing.
(that's my job..)

power consumption in my personal rigs at my house is entirely something different if that is what I want.
it's my choice and I'm not mixing work and home....
(nVidia = more power consumption in the GTX 4/5 series but better performance than all Radeon up to HD 7870/7950... (GTX 580)..)

cheers.

and since I have a job like I do the extra dollar or two a month in electric bill is nothing....
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The issue isn't with your personal choice. It's with your recommendation.
 
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7850 Sapphire/Gigabyte OC versions

1] Runs cooler than the 570 and on a lot less power. A single 6 pin connection means a max TPD of 130W makes this a power efficient mainstream card.

2] Factory overclocked to 930(Sapphire) and 975(Gigabyte) over the reference cards 860, but you can push a overclock of 1205 on the core with little effort.

The GTX570 is also more expensive, its only advantage is in Physx titles and nvidia preferenced games...but its fermi, and its hot.
 
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