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Same pattern? Where???

Here you go Sir 😉

Anand :

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PCGamers :

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Hardware Canucks :

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Tom's

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Some tests were done with no AA and some with full AA but you do not see the 5830 even close to the 480 in any other test other than Anands.
 
Righ now Not in the Future, a 5850 is the best buy considering all points: FPS, TDP, OCing, Eyefinity Features considering a 279$ price. I am really interested if som1 here can OC a Fermi by 38% on AIR. Other than Tessellation and 8xAA I dont really see the benefit.

YouTube Reviews FTW
 
WTx the PCGamer Bench is dated from 27 Mars 2009 ??? And it is run @ DX10 Why not DX11? 😱
 
Agreed.

I would say

Top Choices for best buy Speaking for the Higher end market.

1) 5850
2) 470 GTX
3) 5870
4) 480 GTX

higher performance for the money

1) 5970
2) 5870
3) 470 GTX
4) 480 GTX

etc
 
Sure Fermi will be better with fully tesslated games but by then New Cards will be out and even the 480 struggle and not playable in Heaven High Tesslation. Otherwise nVidia has to price the 480 @ 449$ and the 470@ 329$. And at those prices Im pretty sure Nvidia isnt making as much profits as ATi considering the 2x smaller die and can lower price even to 299$ for the 5870, though thats a dream for us LOL
 
Dang it, my reply edit got eaten by the server, anywhoo I'll summarize in this post;



I understand that, and I expect both to improve, but that's why BFBC2 is an interesting point, both are dealing with drivers that don't have the benefit of much experience with the final title (from the many user perspective) and both have had the same amount of time to work on the beta, so from that perspective they are on pretty even ground. And while they both will improve there from drivers, unlike the other titles, it's in my mind more indicative of what we might see when there isn't a final product to spend 3 months developing for, which would be similar to the FX5900 and HD2900 experience. Remember the other games/benchmarks were well-established PR targets, so they had alot of optimizing since they were the ones that were going to be front and centre. The one that had equal time for both didn't do so well, but IMO is likely to improve greatly over time too, which leads me to the whole point of why you don't discount those results. I expect alot of new titles not long in the TWIMTBP pipeline will provide something more like this type of result;

New Title Day 01: HD5870 > GTX480
New Title Day 66: GTX480 > HD5870

Which is what I expected ever since they mentioned the design in October, and simply re-affirmed with the description of the Polymorph engine in January.
The only problem will be if the title you like to play (like Last Remnant) is one of the ones that doesn't see much love from the driver team to optimize for.

Anywhooo, I was more eloquent in my previous reply that got mulched by laggy server, but this is a bit briefer, however hopefully you understand what I mean, in that I definitely expect big things from Fermi's drivers, and it won't stay at X performance forever, but it's because of that that I think people aren't appreciating that this handfl of titles in these reviews aren't an unknown to nVidia, and aren't the titles I would expect the most boost from (I don't expect Crysis to see as much gain as BFBC2 or a newer title), nor the ones I would expect to hear driver excuses about since nV has specifically focused on these titles for this launch.

I suspect the bigger picture is far more 'all over the map' than we've seen sofar, which is why I can't wait for the reviews from everyone else with uncommon titles and uncommon situations.
 
TGGA I agree with a lot of points.

As for BCBC2, it doesn't run well on ANY nVidia card. It took 197.13 drivers for SLI to scale with any form of stability, before my card died. 🙁
 
Righ now Not in the Future, a 5850 is the best buy considering all points: FPS, TDP, OCing, Eyefinity Features considering a 279$ price. I am really interested if som1 here can OC a Fermi by 38% on AIR. Other than Tessellation and 8xAA I dont really see the benefit.

YouTube Reviews FTW
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Forget about the PC gamers bench, my point is that Anand was way off and all the sites prove it. Look at guru's bench, it has the 470 beating the 5850, Tom's has the same outcome, canucks has the same outcome, etc etc...

BTW where do you get a 5850 at 279.99$ ?


 



Check newegg prices more regularly,it was 279$ 2 days ago 😀 http://www.overclock.net/online-deals/697847-newegg-sapphire-radeon-hd-5850-279-a.html
These 5850s were supposed to MSRP at 259$ Damn late Fermi $#%#$%

nVidia would never drop the 470 under 349$ pretty sure of that as the 5850 is selling top the MSRP and the profit margin of such big chips is small, it costs pretty much near 2x the Cypress.
 
I check them daily, the cheapest 5850 is 299.99$.

The 5850's did start out a 259.99$ but that was long ago...

The 470 can be pre-purchased for as low as 339.99$ considering that it is 5-10% faster than a 5850 with "crappy" drivers it is not considered a bad deal at all IMO.
 



Its a better deal than 480 yes, Considering BOTH cards at their MSRPs the 5850 can simply not be beaten from a FPS/$ perspective. Remind you that Fermi will bring 58xx to their MSRPs, It has no choice.

Perhaps , you forgot to check 5850 prices 4 days ago? 😛

EDIT:the 5850 can simply not be beaten from a FPS/$ AND FPS/W perspective Now , not in the future as no one can take a guess 😉

When will ATi lower their prices @#%$#%

But really: GTX 480 + 5970 on a Lucid HYDRA will bring Tessellation power and such setup will top games for at Least 3 years 😍
 


Yes Sir, but that is not the point...

Anands review should be on par or at least close to the others, no reason to be that biased.
 


Wait, Toms shows Intro Sequence while Anand shows Chase Bench are those the same?

Also but not really sure anad are using a i920@ 3.33Ghz while Toms are using a 980X@ 3.33.
 
slightly?

They put the 5870 22% faster than the 480 when we all know that the 480 is at least 5-10% faster than the 5870 "using the current beta drivers".. that is not a slight mistake, that is just plain stupid IMO.

 
I usually dont look @ resolutions <1920 as they are more CPU dependent.

I dont even see why would som1 with low resolution get a 480. I sold the 5970 because it was way overkill for a 1920x1200 monitor. YES even for Crysis Maxed (53Fps 8xAA,38Fps 2xAA with a 5850 now) and Stalker:CoP Maxed ~80Fps with 8xAA.
 
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