GTX970 Very poor performance

[Salevi]

Hi guys I need help I am really frustrated I just bought the new GTX 970 and its performing very bad I am getting like 30 to 40 fps in games example Assassins creed 3 Battlefield 4 assassins creed 4 is even worse and on. I tried updating the graphic drivers even download some of the old ones nothing helps same performance. Before GTX 970 I had the 670 and I was able to play most of this games on max settings basically way better performance then 970, please tell me whats going is the card broken or could it be a bottleneck ? but I doubt it because when i monitor my game play GPU usage is on 99% my CPU usage on all cores are around 56% depends on a game
not hitting 100% for sure

here are my specs
Motherboard MSI 970A-G43
CPU AMD FX 6300 OC 4.00Ghz Stable
Ram 8GB 1600Mhz
GPU GTX970
PSU 700w
OP windows 8 64 bit
Hard drive 2tb

Please help me understand whats going on, if you guys need more information let me know I will respond fast.
Thanks!

 

[uplink-svk]

Salevi - why not try putting operating system on external HDD as I suggested? It's a work for few minutes, and it's bulletproof. Install OS on external HDD, install nvidia drivers and test it.

 

[Salevi]

Dunno then.There was a guy on here from new Z i think it was last week, did the trouble shoot; windows changed something.Things were better.Re installed the games and it was fixed proper.

Well thanks for the help man, I will get back to this post later tonight with good or bad news after re installing a brand new windows, it will take some time to install the stuff. Thanks again!

 

[Salevi]

Salevi - why not try putting operating system on external HDD as I suggested? It's a work for few minutes, and it's bulletproof. Install OS on external HDD, install nvidia drivers and test it.

thank you for the help, I will get back to you tonight after re installing a brand the windows, last thing that I can do now. Hope it works if not then I am clueless

 

[smeezekitty]

If it doesn't work then I would think about RMAing the card

 

[madmatt30]

not going to bother with a 3dmark firestrike bench mate,just done heaven - stuck to same setings as you ultra, extreme tesselation,8xaa



as expected Im pushing double your score ( downclocked my cpu to 3.8ghz by mistake - so I would prob get a tiny bit more at 4ghz.
only difference is your runnig windows 8 ,Im still on win 7

hope the reinstall fixes things for you - otherwise definitely rma it mate ( hopefully youre still in the frys 30 day straight swap/refund window)

 

[Salevi]

not going to bother with a 3dmark firestrike bench mate,just done heaven - stuck to same setings as you ultra, extreme tesselation,8xaa



as expected Im pushing double your score ( downclocked my cpu to 3.8ghz by mistake - so I would prob get a tiny bit more at 4ghz.
only difference is your runnig windows 8 ,Im still on win 7

hope the reinstall fixes things for you - otherwise definitely rma it mate ( hopefully youre still in the frys 30 day straight swap/refund window)

It did not work after installing a fresh windows, and deleting my entire files, I am back to zero I took the piss of shit card back, I got the 8350 processor instead I will stick with my gtx 670 for now, it still can handle the big boy games. Thanks for everything!

 

[Salevi]

Salevi - why not try putting operating system on external HDD as I suggested? It's a work for few minutes, and it's bulletproof. Install OS on external HDD, install nvidia drivers and test it.

It did not work after installing a fresh windows, and deleting my entire files, I am back to zero I took the piss of shit card back, I got the 8350 processor instead I will stick with my gtx 670 for now, it still can handle the big boy games. Thanks for everything!

 

[Salevi]

If it doesn't work then I would think about RMAing the card

It did not work after installing a fresh windows, and deleting my entire files, I am back to zero I took the piss of shit card back, I got the 8350 processor instead I will stick with my gtx 670 for now, it still can handle the big boy games. Thanks for everything!

 

[madmatt30]

Sorry you had the probs you did mate - the 970 is a great card if it works right- can see you're mad by your triple post ;-)
Had a Google search last night - there are others having the same probs as you - mainly with the MSI 970 gaming board & the evga GPU combo.
Don't be put off if you think about it again in the future ,your experience wouldput me off the evga card though.
Checked my benches - they're near matching over clocked Asus strix & gigabyte g1 cards !!
Mines a lowly budget galax exoc model - paid around 15% less than those models& have not even touched the clocks yet.
I'm not sure its available in the us - it seems to be aimed at the asian/European market.I would highly recommend it - I rma'd a MSI gaming model for thiis one (clicking fan) & the Galax is far superior in build quality (& performance it would seem too)

 

[Salevi]

Sorry you had the probs you did mate - the 970 is a great card if it works right- can see you're mad by your triple post ;-)
Had a Google search last night - there are others having the same probs as you - mainly with the MSI 970 gaming board & the evga GPU combo.
Don't be put off if you think about it again in the future ,your experience wouldput me off the evga card though.
Checked my benches - they're near matching over clocked Asus strix & gigabyte g1 cards !!
Mines a lowly budget galax exoc model - paid around 15% less than those models& have not even touched the clocks yet.
I'm not sure its available in the us - it seems to be aimed at the asian/European market.I would highly recommend it - I rma'd a MSI gaming model for thiis one (clicking fan) & the Galax is far superior in build quality (& performance it would seem too)

Yeah we do get all the models of the gtx 970 its just I always get EVGA cards because they are good but the last generation its just horrible even the 970 on my hand looked cheap, I owned EVGA 9500GT up to EVGA 460, and EVGA 670 all great cards but this one, it never happened to me like this lol, w/e I guess.... I just installed my new amd fx 8350 havent tested the performance tho since I don't have any games anymore, but I hope it wont get to high temperature because i heard it runs hot I got my cooler master n520 on it so lets hope it works well

 

[madmatt30]

Salvesi - you will be just about OK with the n520 on it - expect 60ish under full load though.
Out of interest what motherboard are you using (don't know if you mentioned earlier)??
Shame about the 970 - I've been well happy with mine - I expected the 6300 to limit it but at 4ghz it pairs pretty well tbh.
I replaced my 280x not for the performance boost really but because I'm using a Silverstone htpc case- space & cooling is very limited - the 280x just ran too hot & noisy in my rig for my liking.
The galax 970 sits around 62c in gaming most of the time & is very nearly silent.
Take a look at if you look at upgrading in the future - its very well made - full aluminium shroud & the vrm's are on the rear of the PCB heatsinked by a solid 4mm steel plate - it is seriously built like a tsnk. & build quality is top notch IMO.

 

[Salevi]

Salvesi - you will be just about OK with the n520 on it - expect 60ish under full load though.
Out of interest what motherboard are you using (don't know if you mentioned earlier)??
Shame about the 970 - I've been well happy with mine - I expected the 6300 to limit it but at 4ghz it pairs pretty well tbh.
I replaced my 280x not for the performance boost really but because I'm using a Silverstone htpc case- space & cooling is very limited - the 280x just ran too hot & noisy in my rig for my liking.
The galax 970 sits around 62c in gaming most of the time & is very nearly silent.
Take a look at if you look at upgrading in the future - its very well made - full aluminium shroud & the vrm's are on the rear of the PCB heatsinked by a solid 4mm steel plate - it is seriously built like a tsnk. & build quality is top notch IMO.

Thanks for letting me know, I have the Motherboard MSI 970A-G43, its a decent motherboard for its price, I just tested Tomb raider the new one, with my 8350 and 670 runs on 60fps max settings FXAA on, and you were right cpu temps are around 60 62 once again and my card is on 72, its probably because I have it overclocked. But 72 is nothing for a gpu. I will let this setup be for now till GTA5 if I get a problem running that, on max settings I will give it another shot with 970 or a something with AMD.

 

[Guest]

Your CPU is creating a bottleneck for sure.

Could it be that bad of bottleneck that can cause worse fps then my gtx 670?

A bottleneck should never make you get less performance with a better card.
At worst it would be the same.

My stock but relevant question is how are your CPU and GPU temps under load?

Perhaps this isn't an issue but I bring it up to raise awareness. In the games being played, is the graphic resolution the same as with the old graphics card? Sometimes a more powerful card will allow some games to automatically detect and adjust a "high" setting to "maximum," which will affect frames per second (fps) in game. Just make sure the game being played is at the same graphic setting as the old card.

Also, cpu can be an issue sometimes. For example (I don't know how good the cpu discussed here is), when my hard drive died in my Core i7 940 (first gen i7) computer, and while waiting for a new SSD to replace the hard drive, I pulled the GTX 550 Ti from it and installed it into my old AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ based computer. That cpu is dual core as opposed to my 4 core i7. Both computers run Windows 8.1 Pro, with the AMD running 32-bit while the Core i7 running 64-bit. Anyway, the game I always play (War Thunder) would play at "high" graphic settings on my Core i7 but could barely do "low" settings on my AMD system, and the fps rate was terrible. The game was almost unplayable. My point: It's not only the graphics card that matters for high frame rates. The number of cores (4 is currently optimal) and the quality of the cpu matters, too.

Just comments to add to this discussion to raise awareness. May not apply to this situation but many folks read these discussions.

 

[Sav4]

Hi just a suggestion have you checked if there is a m/b bios update for your board ?

 

[Vladimir Aquino]

If U are underclokced download msi afterburner use a default profile and you should be fine.

 

[MBright8950]

Your CPU is creating a bottleneck for sure.

The FX-6300 at 4.0 would not bottleneck a gtx 970. Why would you say that ?

 

[Vladimir Aquino]

that's exactly what i was thinking

Your CPU is creating a bottleneck for sure.

The FX-6300 at 4.0 would not bottleneck a gtx 970. Why would you say that ?

 

[Art27]

Salevi, I am experiencing the exact same issues as you are. My Unigine Heaven score is right around the same as yours and FPS performance is all of my games is subpar compared to other 970 reports. I posted a thread in the Nvidia forums and you'll find I've had the same confounding problem; nothing has led to a fix, and I now await another 970 from MSI, I'm currently using the STRIX 970.

Here's my thread I mentioned: https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/791940/geforce-900-series/extremely-low-benchmark-on-my-970-what-gives-/