[SOLVED] H410

[nyonyoreza]

Why intel new chipset H410 only support M.2 PCIe 3 x2?, while even the old H170 support M.2 PCIe 3 x 4, and most (all) NVMe SSD run on PCIe 3 x 4, this is very disappointing, as i just bought new computer with H410 mother board

 

[Lutfij]

It's Intel's scheme of things, all we can do is maybe voice an opinion and hopefully they catch up to it. Outside of that, you're better off getting a board that natively supports PCIe 3.0 x4 SSD's. Also, ask first then buy, not the other way around.

 

[egda23]

What motherboard ? Certain H410 mobos support PCIe 3.0 x4

 

[nyonyoreza]

What motherboard ? Certain H410 mobos support PCIe 3.0 x4

What motherboard ? Certain H410 mobos support PCIe 3.0 x4

Which manufacturer support PCIe 3 x4, mine is gigabyte

 

[egda23]

Which manufacturer support PCIe 3 x4, mine is gigabyte

MSI for example. You Can check for indivudual mobos on their web support page

 

[nyonyoreza]

It's Intel's scheme of things, all we can do is maybe voice an opinion and hopefully they catch up to it. Outside of that, you're better off getting a board that natively supports PCIe 3.0 x4 SSD's. Also, ask first then buy, not the other way around.

My point is, who would ever guess that the newest intel chipset series doesn't support 3 x 4, while the 5 year old series already supported it, would you also check that the newest mobo support USB 3?, and by the way what's the use of M.2 PCIe if it only supports 3 x2?

 

[egda23]

MSI for example. You Can check for indivudual mobos on their web support page

I understand your point, but H410 does support M.2 PCIe 3x4 as for example this motherboard
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/H410M-PRO/Specification
which is an entry level mobo for MSI.
It seems that the various motherboard manufacturers implement whatever lower end feature they want, probably in an attempts to decrease cost.
Don't forget that H410 is the entry level chipset for 1200 Intel CPUs. Price being an important factor here.
And your old H170 mobo is the equivalent of the H470 chipset today, not the H410.
For example this one
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/H470M-DS3H-rev-10/sp#sp

EDIT: corrected typos

 

[nyonyoreza]

MSI for example. You Can check for indivudual mobos on their web support page

Can we put NVMe SSD 3 x 4 in the 3 x2 M.2 slot? will it be recognized, will it run at half speed, some SSD run close to 3 x 4 (3700MB/s), some close to 3 x 2 (2100) at their natural/full speed in 3 x 4 slot

 

[egda23]

Can we put NVMe SSD 3 x 4 in the 3 x2 M.2 slot? will it be recognized, will it run at half speed, some SSD run close to 3 x 4 (3700MB/s), some close to 3 x 2 (2100) at their natural/full speed in 3 x 4 slot

It will be recognized as you can see from this list
https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Document/mb_m.2_support_intel_201006.pdf
for the Gigabyte H410M S2H (rev. 1.0) board that only supports PCIe x2 speed, as you can see from the specs sheet
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/H410M-S2H-rev-10/sp#sp

But clearly they will run at PCIe 3x2 speed, as this is the only implemented as clearly stated in the specs

 

[nyonyoreza]

It will be recognized as you can see from this list
https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Document/mb_m.2_support_intel_201006.pdf
for the Gigabyte H410M S2H (rev. 1.0) board that only supports PCIe x2 speed, as you can see from the specs sheet
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/H410M-S2H-rev-10/sp#sp

But clearly they will run at PCIe 3x2 speed, as this is the only implemented as clearly stated in the specs

Eh...i'm not clear about this, where should i look in the list that M.2 PCIe3 x2 slot will recognize any NVMe SSD PCIe3 x4?

 

[egda23]

Eh...i'm not clear about this, where should i look in the list that M.2 PCIe3 x2 slot will recognize any NVMe SSD PCIe3 x4?

you have to scroll down in the list to reach the M.2 PCIe NVME.
And there, for each SSD you can see in the third column that most of these SSD are indeed Gen3x4.
https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Document/mb_m.2_support_intel_201006.pdf
And they work with his motherboard which is PCIex2 as per the specs here
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/H410M-S2H-rev-10/sp#sp

And for confirmation you can see that a SSD recently review here
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/wd-blue-sn550-m2-nvme-ssd-review-best-dramless-ssd-yet
with reference WDS100T2B0C , is present in tis list. And this is indeed a very recent GEN3x4 SSD

 

[nyonyoreza]

Eh...i'm not clear about this, where should i look in the list that M.2 PCIe3 x2 slot will recognize any NVMe SSD PCIe3 x4?

oh...I see, thanks

 

[nyonyoreza]

you have to scroll down in the list to reach the M.2 PCIe NVME.
And there, for each SSD you can see in the third column that most of these SSD are indeed Gen3x4.
https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Document/mb_m.2_support_intel_201006.pdf
And they work with his motherboard which is PCIex2 as per the specs here
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/H410M-S2H-rev-10/sp#sp

And for confirmation you can see that a SSD recently review here
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/wd-blue-sn550-m2-nvme-ssd-review-best-dramless-ssd-yet
with reference WDS100T2B0C , is present in tis list. And this is indeed a very recent GEN3x4 SSD

Thanks a lot, that is exactly what i'm looking for

 

[nyonyoreza]

And for confirmation you can see that a SSD recently review here
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/wd-blue-sn550-m2-nvme-ssd-review-best-dramless-ssd-yet
with reference WDS100T2B0C , is present in tis list. And this is indeed a very recent GEN3x4 SSD

The list says it supports WD Blue SN550 NVMe 1TB, does this mean it will also support WD Blue SN550 NVMe 500GB?

 

[egda23]

The list says it supports WD Blue SN550 NVMe 1TB, does this mean it will also support WD Blue SN550 NVMe 500GB?

There is no reason why it wouldn't. Technology is the same; only difference is the amount of storage

 

[nyonyoreza]

There is no reason why it wouldn't. Technology is the same; only difference is the amount of storage

But why only 1TB Blue SN550 is on the list?

Three of PC SN520 are on the list 128GB, 256GB, 512GB

Another Blue is, Blue SN500 (NOT SN550) 500GB