Has anyone reached 3.6 or 4 GHz with E6600 and air cooling?

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Honestly with the cost of most high end 3rd party fans, it wouldnt be much to jump to a simple CPU water cooling setup.

Though most water cooling setups are hard to do and expensive, something like this is nice for a CPU only setup.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2378/ex-wat-69/Cooler_Master_Aquagate_Mini_R120_Assembled_Water_Cooling_Kit_RL-MUA-EBU1.html?tl=g30c83

Should fit easily into most tower cases. and costs around $95 and there is a smaller one for $85.

With some of the high end fans costing $50-$80, its not that much of a jump.
 
I believe you would have better luck with a high quality air cooler.
if your going to water cool unless your stock I would recommend a custom built or quality kit form danger den or swiftech
 
Thats too bad .
it would prove your point :wink:
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Prove my point? thats not the point im trying to make. My point is that a safe and stable 24/7 OC at 4ghz on an air cooled E6400 would be a very rare occurance and is not very likely to happen.

Posting shots of CPUZ at 4ghz proves nothing.
I agree with that aspect of your argument.
People rely on your advice and if you say that you can do something then stand behind your statements or don’t say anything at all.
I believe the op just wanted to know if it was conceivably possible to reach 4GHz on air.
Yes it is.
Is it possible to stabilize 4GHz on air stock?
If your good.
 
Nice rig RobX2 really top notch stuff in there. And is that what the tuniq tower-120 really looks like? Geez that thing is massive. I'm gonna get a scythe INF-1000 just because it's easier to find than the tuniq tower. Unless I do find one then I might buy it (but my case might have clearance issues)
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Hey thanks man :wink: as the previous owner of a scythe infinity let me tell you that there is no comparison when it comes to the tuniq tower 120. My tuniq tower is outperforming the scythe by some 12-14c, I did a few remounts on the scythe just to make sure so I know that my results are accurate.

I would say if you can fit the scythe into your case then you can also get the tuniq to fit, it seems like I have just as much clearance with the tuniq as I did the scythe.

Here you go! 3 places that have them in stock as of right now!


http://www.petrastechshop.com/sututo120hec.html


http://www.xpcgear.com/tuniqtower120.html


http://xoxide.com/tuniq-t-120-hsf.html


WOW!... Thats a lot of difference, may I ask why? if there is so much diff between those 2... Then I wonder why is AnandTech's people using Infinity now (they used to use Tower 120)? Isn't the Infinity supposed to be better?

Can you teach us to make that cool home made GPU cooler?
 
I think this might help you out I found this link in another thread:

Conroe Overclocking database

there is only one person to reach 4 hours P95 stable clock on air for an e6600 and he has a zalman 9500...

And none of the e6400's reach stable >4Ghz clocks. None of them are using phase change though.
 
You still have not answered the question I've asked over and over again. I am left to conclude that the only basis for your repeated claims is your own 6400.

Here's an example: I took a quickie look at XS and right off the bat found this thread:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=128216

Now this guy is not showing dual prime torture, but he did get a 6400 to 4GHz on air at 1.54V. Not bad for 1.54V. My point is that there is info out there that's easy to find. Your 6400 is not the only one in existence.

I've personally witnessed an air-cooled 6400 running dual prime at 4GHz.
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You see, this right here is the reason I am giving you a hard time. Its because your not listening to a single damn thing I am trying to tell you.

Once again! and lets hope to hell it sinks into your thick head this time :roll:

You can't answer a simple question that is asked repeatedly.

Did you see it pass 8+hrs of prime with ZERO errors? Did you see if his temps were exceeding the safe threshold of 65c after 8hrs of Prime? I seriously doubt it! as it doesnt take a genius to realize that it would be next to impossible on air with the high levels of vcore needed for stability at that speed!
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And you're basing this just on your own 6400? Or are you now all the sudden gonna change paths and start giving references to other chips?

Here's what I can tell you about the air-cooled 6400 I observed at 4GHz: It had been running dual prime for over 6 hours when I stopped by my friend's lab. When I looked at the output, I saw zero errors. I don't recall the temps but I did look at them and don't remember them being freakishly high. I did take a couple of notes though - he was at 1.56V. His best CPU-Z/SuperPi for this chip on air is 530x8=4.24GHz. He puts together maybe 75 rigs a year and thoroughly benchmarks each. In the process, he comes across some great chips, RAM, GPUs, etc., that find their way into his own rigs. That doesn't really interest me (buying something someone else tweaked) but I do hit him up for some hints every now and then since he's a BIOS-tweaking maniac.

Then maybe you should stop acting like you know it all and start listening to someone who actually owns the chip and has been following it since day one.
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I simply asked you a question that you couldn't hack and you lost your cool and started calling names. If you have references, you've been unwilling to give them up.

As I said before, Someone post up a pic of an E6400@4ghz on air running dual P95 for 8+hrs with zero errors and load temps under prime not exceeding 65c with a reasonable amount of vcore and then you will have something to brag about.
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Did you build your CPU? No, so maybe Intel should be bragging? Did you assemble your mobo, hand-select the chips for it? No, you plugged stuff into sockets and slots, right? Did you get BIOS tweak hints online? Then what exactly do you have to brag about?
 
[not exceeding the safe threshold of 65c]

What temp program are you using? Different programs give different results.... What one do you think is the most accurate?
 
Regardless I dont really owe you an explanation about anything
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Sure you do. You've made many claims here but you're unwilling to back them up.

And yet you still provide no proof that I have repeatedly asked for other than your WORD which is not gonna cut it chump :roll:
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My beloved dual prime torture? P95 is one of the most popular tools people use when checking for stability and you trying down play it just shows how ignorant you are.
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Actually, I use dual prime but have found that it is not the be-all, end-all stress test. I've seen production video rendering rigs that were dual prime stable that would not handle HD rendering at the dual prime OC. Others have reported similar behavior. I see it this way: dual prime is a tool and if what you want to do with your box is run dual prime 24/7, then it's a great way to waste electricity.

What you're doing here is imposing the standards for stability in the thread that didn't ask for it. When people here tried to answer the OPs questions, you started imposing your beliefs and to all that spoke up, you harassed them and called them names. Oh, and you made claims about your own 6400 that we now see you are unwilling to back up. You require other people to back up their claims but you think you are free to spray without backup? Isn't that the definition of hypocrisy?

People are concerned with stable 24/7 OC's, not what someone is able to boot up into windows at and run a few programs :roll:
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Go back and read the OPs questions and you'll see that you've been trying to impose your own beliefs on others. Not everyone out there is worried about 24/7 stability - some people like to play around and just want some SuperPi numbers and a screen shot. Look at the world record database on Xtreme Systems for example. Tell Coolaler that his SuperPi records don't count since he didn't run the rig dual prime for 8+ hours.
 
Nice rig RobX2 really top notch stuff in there. And is that what the tuniq tower-120 really looks like? Geez that thing is massive. I'm gonna get a scythe INF-1000 just because it's easier to find than the tuniq tower. Unless I do find one then I might buy it (but my case might have clearance issues)
Click to expand...

Hey thanks man :wink: as the previous owner of a scythe infinity let me tell you that there is no comparison when it comes to the tuniq tower 120. My tuniq tower is outperforming the scythe by some 12-14c, I did a few remounts on the scythe just to make sure so I know that my results are accurate.

I would say if you can fit the scythe into your case then you can also get the tuniq to fit, it seems like I have just as much clearance with the tuniq as I did the scythe.

Here you go! 3 places that have them in stock as of right now!


http://www.petrastechshop.com/sututo120hec.html


http://www.xpcgear.com/tuniqtower120.html


http://xoxide.com/tuniq-t-120-hsf.html


WOW!... Thats a lot of difference, may I ask why? if there is so much diff between those 2... Then I wonder why is AnandTech's people using Infinity now (they used to use Tower 120)? Isn't the Infinity supposed to be better?

Can you teach us to make that cool home made GPU cooler?

I don't want to sound like a baby but can we please stop the pointless flame war? those who think is easy will always think so. Those who know it's hard don't need to bash it in other people skull's.

Let's try to make this post more productive... For example:

Rob, can you answer my questions please? I bet some people are also intrigued by that.

WOW!... Thats a lot of difference, may I ask why? if there is so much diff between those 2... Then I wonder why is AnandTech's people using Infinity now (they used to use Tower 120)? Isn't the Infinity supposed to be better?

Can you teach us to make that cool home made GPU cooler?
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I never once said that there was anything wrong with running an E6400@4ghz long enough to do some benchmarking now did I? :roll:
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I'll show you a comment you made related to this very subject:

Message 26: "I could also show you my E6400 running at 4ghz as I know it will post that high but I would say its far from safe because of the temps it reaches due to the increase in the ammount of Vcore needed to get it stable at 4ghz."

So you claim it is unsafe. One could easily equate this claim as equivalent to "wrong". Or will you now try to say that unsafe temps are right? Now that a couple of us have asked you to prove the claim you made above, you're backpedaling.

My problem is when people are asking for info regarding on what a safe stable 24/7 OC is and then nublets like yourself post info about someone running a benchmarking program at 4ghz with an E6400 on air and then try to pass that off as the expected safe stable 24/7 OC. :roll:
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I haven't tried to pass anything off as a 24/7 safe stable 6400 OC. The OP's questions were: "I wanted to know if anyone has reached 3.6 GHz or 4 GHz with a Core 2 Duo E6600 (400 or 450 MHz FSB) with air cooling. Is it nearly imposible? If so, what system was used? mobo, ram, HSF, number of fans, Vcore, etc... "

He didn't ask for a safe stable 24/7 OC.

Either provide the info that I asked for in refference to a E6400@4ghz on air with safe temps-vcore and dual Prime for 8+hrs with zero errors or STFU.
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You made your 4GHz claim in message 23. Back that up first, then I'll see if my friend is interested in providing the proof you need. He's busy with C2Qs and 4x4s right now. Again, your claims came before mine, so back yours up first.

That is the whole argument you idiot, not rather or not there is anything wrong with running a benchmarking program at 4ghz on air :roll:
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What exactly does "not rather or not" mean?
 
RobsX2,

You are proving nothing else here except for the fact that you can't let go. You have made your point that it will be unlikely to run stable at 4Ghz several pages ago. Either people listen to you, or they don't. Yet, you insist on arguing over nothing. The more you whine here, the more annoying you are becoming and the less people will listen to you. Why don't you take your moaning out of the thread.
 
Most of the time when people start threads like these its because they are concerned with what kind of a nice stable 24/7 OC to expect. Not what they can boot up to in windows long enough to run a few programs :roll:
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Most of the time? You got stats? What about those world records people work so hard to snag on XS? Are they dual prime 24/7 stable? If not, do the world records count?

I'm not the one making the outlandish claims
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Then prove your non-outlandish claims.

If you think im gonna risk anything with my hardware over your stupid ass then you are sadly mistaken.
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No. You'd be risking your hardware to regain the credibility you've lost.

How bout your full of sh1t and dont even have a friend with an 6400 or any other chip for that matter and thats why you cant produce your so called proof :roll:
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Like I said - show your proof first. You made the first claim so the ball's in your court.

As for your claims? they have yet to be seen as they never will be anyway.
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So was the claim you made earlier for those lucky 1% stable 4GHz 6400s based on real numbers?
 
If you look back at the first few pages, you will see that Rob insisted going back and forth with I_Love_Tacos over something pointless as well. He has to have the last word and he can't let go. Regardless of if he is right or wrong, he just needs to learn when to stop. He is adding no value to the thread when he is thumping his chest. He does when he provides info.

As I said earlier, I thought he made a fine point in the beginning about running at 4Ghz, but every one of these comments makes it hard for someone to take him seriously. I'm not taking sides here, but just giving advice that if you want to be taken seriously, conduct yourself in the appropriate manner. Sometimes you have to take the higher ground and know when to walk away; especially when you made your point and you know you are correct.
 
RobsX2,

You are proving nothing else here except for the fact that you can't let go. You have made your point that it will be unlikely to run stable at 4Ghz several pages ago. Either people listen to you, or they don't. Yet, you insist on arguing over nothing. The more you whine here, the more annoying you are becoming and the less people will listen to you. Why don't you take your moaning out of the thread.
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Why dont you stfu if your only going to talk sh1t about me and not even mention that clueless moron. Or are you one of his worshiping sock puppets :roll:

I don't remember ever building any aliances here with Hound Dog or Taco, although I do like tacos.
 
how many E6400's do you see running a safe stable 24/7 OC on air at 4ghz with an E6400 passing P95 for 8+hrs error free with safe temps and vcore?

Oh thats right! NONE!
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Here's what YOU posted in message 24:

"If anyone is truly able to get a stable 4ghz P95 overclock on air with acceptable temps on an E6400 then they are most likely in the 1%range of people who just got damn lucky."

So now 1% has slipped down to zero? Here's the truth: I joined this thread with an honest question. I'm used to seeing serious contributors here like Jack that are willing to back up their claims with links. You're not willing to do that. I'm done with this thread.
 
I didnt have time to read all the fighting that was going on.... but i just finished getting my comp up to 3.6 ghz with ram running at 1125mhz and a 6600. I burned it in with settings at 3.46 ghz for a while and then bumped it up to 3.6. Im VERY VERY happy with the results 😀
 
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