Haswell Question

[melikepie]

Im thinking about waiting till 2013 for a uprage for my FX-8120 pc by getting a haswell chip but how well is it compared to ivy bridge? I might be able to get a better haswell cpu if i wait but is waiting worth it?

 

[jaguarskx]

Unknown. Early hopeful estimates ranges between 10% - 25% faster than Ivy Bridge. Won't know until benchmarks are released when Haswell becomes available in mid-2013.

I'm also waiting for Haswell before upgrading my Q9450.

 

[jimmysmitty]

Unknown. Early hopeful estimates ranges between 10% - 25% faster than Ivy Bridge. Won't know until benchmarks are released when Haswell becomes available in mid-2013.

I'm also waiting for Haswell before upgrading my Q9450.

I would agree but from what I have heard, Haswell will focus more on lower power than higher performance. Of course I may be wrong as its all rumors for now until we get solid info from Intel but the IGP should get a major boost as the top end should have 40 EUs compared to 16 from IB.

 

[melikepie]

Unknown. Early hopeful estimates ranges between 10% - 25% faster than Ivy Bridge. Won't know until benchmarks are released when Haswell becomes available in mid-2013.

I'm also waiting for Haswell before upgrading my Q9450.

i look at wikipedia and there is socket LGA 1150 probely for the qauds but i dont know some things
1. Is LGA 1366 not being used anymore?
2. Will LGA 1150 and LGA 2011 be the common sockets in 2013?

 

[melikepie]

I would agree but from what I have heard, Haswell will focus more on lower power than higher performance. Of course I may be wrong as its all rumors for now until we get solid info from Intel but the IGP should get a major boost as the top end should have 40 EUs compared to 16 from IB.

ok but i play games so i will probely not use integrated grapics

 

[phyco126]

LGA 1366 is dead. LGA 2011 will likely still be alive by then, but keep in mind that this is performance and enthusiast socket versus mainstream (and therefore cheaper) socket 1150.

 

[melikepie]

LGA 1366 is dead. LGA 2011 will likely still be alive by then, but keep in mind that this is performance and enthusiast socket versus mainstream (and therefore cheaper) socket 1150.

ok then im planning on saving for maybe a new pc probely willing to spend $1000 by then, thats a while from now but i will be happy since it's a major upragde from what i have now.

 

[phyco126]

Whatever Haswell's equivalent to the 2500K/3570K is will be your best bet with that kind of budget. I'll think that PC will be blazing fast once you build her in 2013.

 

[melikepie]

Whatever Haswell's equivalent to the 2500K/3570K is will be your best bet with that kind of budget. I'll think that PC will be blazing fast once you build her in 2013.

So your saying $1000 will be enough to build a really fast pc?

 

[phyco126]

Yup. Won't be the best, but it'll be fast enough for most needs these days. Paired properly with the right GPU that'll be in 2013, I don't see why it won't play any game at high to ultra on a 1920 by 1080 monitor.

 

[melikepie]

Yup. Won't be the best, but it'll be fast enough for most needs these days. Paired properly with the right GPU that'll be in 2013, I don't see why it won't play any game at high to ultra on a 1920 by 1080 monitor.

$300 Radeon HD Like A 8870 (Out By Then) And A $200 Qaud And $500 For Other Stuff... Great PC!
Will The Standerd Be A Quad Core Then Or A 6-Core?

 

[fazers_on_stun]

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/21497/intel_s_next_generation_processor_architecture_haswell_gets_leaked_details/index.html

What does Haswell introduce that we haven't got right now? It includes the next-generation RapidStart quick boot capabilities that reduce cold-boot times to 2 seconds. The processor's IPC will be increased over Ivy Bridge and the mobile version is set to include features that will reportedly increase battery life of mainstream notebooks. Haswell also sports improved media HD to HD transcoding capabilities.

It also brings in NFC (near-field communication), and Thunderbolt (finally!) to the masses. The platform that Haswell uses is called "Shark Bay", and will be available in 2-chip quad-core and 1-chip dual-core variants.

http://www.h-online.com/newsticker/news/item/Processor-Whispers-About-Haskell-and-Haswell-1389507.html

At SC11 in Seattle, the first processor with hardware transactional memory (HTM) was presented under the official name PowerPC A2.

At the beginning of 2013, Intel will also offer HTM, with its Haswell processor. Everyone from Intel openly admitted as much when asked directly at SC11. Supposedly, Intel will soon announce the new TM instructions that will be added to the already released AVX2 extension. It's about time, as the continually increasing number of processor cores makes the need for technologies for faster thread synchronisation more and more urgent. Without such technologies, the processor will eventually be so busy with itself that it won't be able to get any real work done.

With transactional memory, the idea is to not lose time by locking successive data access by threads to shared memory areas, but instead first bundling the accesses into an atomic transaction, for instance in the L1 cache, in order to save time by executing them all at once during the commit. This happens under the optimistic assumption that no other thread will stick its oar in and access the shared memory in the meantime. If that happens, though, that's bad luck and a rollback mechanism is required to abort the intended – but by then invalid – transaction. In that case, the transaction is re-executed, if applicable with new source data.

Although first leaked benchmark results for the Llano successor Trinity with the new Piledriver core can't really impress with a performance increase of 23 to 35 per cent in graphics (3DMark Vantage) and 7 to 17 per cent in general (PCMark Vantage), but at least the graphics performance should be more than sufficient to keep the Ivy Bridge in check in this context.

Some rumors put Haswell's IGP as 2-3X that of Ivy Bridge's IGP, so in that case it is quite possible that Intel's GPU will surpass that of Trinity..

 

[phyco126]

$300 Radeon HD Like A 8870 (Out By Then) And A $200 Qaud And $500 For Other Stuff... Great PC!
Will The Standerd Be A Quad Core Then Or A 6-Core?

Standard will be quad-core still, as Intel is wanting to keep Haswell's mainstream processors at quad-core. I imagine at some point after Haswell we will get a 6-core standard processor.