Question have I permanently damaged my PC's hardware in trying overclock the CPU ?

[eziowar]

Hi, my cpu i5-4670k,cpu cooler-Hyper 212X , gpu - Asrock rx 7800xt challenger oc, mobo- gigabyte z87x-ud3h, bios version F10b, psu corsair cs650m, corsair ram 4x4gb @1600 mhz dual channel.

So after trying some different overclocking settings ( used cpu vcore from 1.2 to 1.23 and targeted for 4.1 to 4.2 ghz) i had like 6 to 8 times BSOD and during a aida64 2024 extreme tress test my freezed after 30m and had to long press power button. For like last 9 years without any issue i had 4x4gb rams on 1600hz and xmp1 on and it was same during those overclocking tries. though i never tried overclocking before. But 10 days ago i installed new gpu rx 7800 xt ( i had gtx 1050 ti for past 9 years.). So first few days after that new gpu i did not tried any overclocking and every thing was fine. but after those failed overclocking tries and BSODs suddenly my PC wont POST anymore even without any overclocking and my mobo debug code led would show following codes in sequense and repeatedly untill i long press power button to turn off the pc- -------

15 ( it means- pre memory north bridge initialization is started) >>>> 3b (it means-PCH PEI initialization) >>>32(it means-CPU PEI initialization)

now sometimes pc would restart after 32 and repeats everything. but other times those codes would rotate without pc restarting. Also sometimes my pc would turn on and but after gaming sometime if i turned off the pc for sometime then my PC wont POST anymore again though if i would restart only instead shut down then my pc would turn on . After that i disabled XMP1 and lowered the ram freq to 1330mhz but still same issue happened. even i flashed the bios but still nothing got solved. But then i set memory enhancement setting to "enhanced stability" and xmp1 disabled and memory clock to auto ( auto puts the clock to 1330 by default) and only then my pc started normaly and had no issue ever again.

https://imgur.com/aSK4gW0

View: https://i.imgur.com/aSK4gW0.png


Do you guys think i have damaged my pc's hardware permanently in trying CPU overclocking thats why XMP1 not stable anymore? if so then which pc part you think is damaged ?
Now, should i start overclocking my CPU again with this stable RAM settings ? Or it's too risky and i can damage my system?

 

[Aeacus]

Let's get something clear: any OC that you do, can outright kill your hardware. Or in your case, damage it beyond salvation.

This leads me to another question: Reason behind CPU OC was? 🤔

Also, based on your hardware specs, your build, while old; isn't quite up to the task for CPU OC. You'd need better CPU cooler and FAR better PSU for proper CPU OC. (Your PSU's +12V rail has way too high ripple for proper CPU OC.) That, and capacitors age, meaning that the older the hardware, the higher the risk of OC damaging or outright killing something.

In your case, i suggest that you bury all and any CPU OC desires you have and pray for hardware gods that your PC lasts for a year or two. Since it may not be far, where your PC gives up the ghost (MoBo calls it quits for good).

 

[eziowar]

Let's get something clear: any OC that you do, can outright kill your hardware. Or in your case, damage it beyond salvation.

This leads me to another question: Reason behind CPU OC was? 🤔

Also, based on your hardware specs, your build, while old; isn't quite up to the task for CPU OC. You'd need better CPU cooler and FAR better PSU for proper CPU OC. (Your PSU's +12V rail has way too high ripple for proper CPU OC.) That, and capacitors age, meaning that the older the hardware, the higher the risk of OC damaging or outright killing something.

In your case, i suggest that you bury all and any CPU OC desires you have and pray for hardware gods that your PC lasts for a year or two. Since it may not be far, where your PC gives up the ghost (MoBo calls it quits for good).

ty, during buying new PSU how to determine if a PSU has low ripple on +12v rail or not?

 

[Aeacus]

during buying new PSU how to determine if a PSU has low ripple on +12v rail or not?

Best (essentially only) source: read reputable review.

E.g here's ripple measurements of my PSU (Seasonic SSR-650TD) powering my Skylake build (full specs with pics in my sig),
review: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/seasonic-prime-titanium-650w-psu,4690-9.html

And here are your CS650m ripple measurements,
review: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/corsair-cs650m/9.html

See any diffs on +12V rail? 🤔

For any kind of OC, you'd want as low ripple as possible.

Ripple represent the AC fluctuations (periodic) and noise (random) found in the PSU's DC rails. This phenomenon significantly decreases the capacitors' lifespan because it causes them to run hotter. A 10-degree Celsius increase can cut into a cap's useful life by 50%. Ripple also plays an important role in overall system stability, especially when overclocking is involved.

Source: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/how-we-test-psu,4042-5.html

 

[eziowar]

Best (essentially only) source: read reputable review.

E.g here's ripple measurements of my PSU (Seasonic SSR-650TD) powering my Skylake build (full specs with pics in my sig),
review: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/seasonic-prime-titanium-650w-psu,4690-9.html

And here are your CS650m ripple measurements,
review: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/corsair-cs650m/9.html

See any diffs on +12V rail? 🤔

For any kind of OC, you'd want as low ripple as possible.

Source: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/how-we-test-psu,4042-5.html

Ty, btw do u think my pc hardware has been damaged ?

 

[hotaru.hino]

Here's another question, is this your only computer? And if so, is it hard for you to get another one? And if yes, why are you risking your hardware? At this point, unless you're willing to accept the risk of damaging your hardware, you shouldn't be overclocking.

 

[eziowar]

Here's another question, is this your only computer? And if so, is it hard for you to get another one? And if yes, why are you risking your hardware? At this point, unless you're willing to accept the risk of damaging your hardware, you shouldn't be overclocking.

I need some time to build complete new system, but i need max performance immediately .

 

[hotaru.hino]

I need some time to build complete new system, but i need max performance immediately .

I'm going to take it you can't afford to lose this computer then. So stop overclocking and wait until you have the means to build a new computer.

 

[Aeacus]

but i need max performance immediately .

This is a desire and not actual need for CPU OC. Even when you manage to successfully OC your CPU, at most, you're looking ~5% gain, which is negligible. Maybe 3-6 FPS more in games or ~20 seconds less in CPU render. Neither of the two are worth the effort of CPU OC.
So, what is the real reason why you want to OC your CPU?

btw do u think my pc hardware has been damaged ?

Yes. MoBo seems to throw a fit (e.g RAM XMP won't hold anymore, system fails to POST).

 

[SkyNetRising]

Hi, my
cpu i5-4670k,cpu cooler-Hyper 212X ,
gpu - Asrock rx 7800xt challenger oc,
mobo- gigabyte z87x-ud3h, bios version F10b,
psu corsair cs650m,
corsair ram 4x4gb @1600 mhz dual channel.
10 days ago i installed new gpu rx 7800 xt ( i had gtx 1050 ti for past 9 years.)

Minimum recommended PSU for RX 7800XT is 750W.
Your GPU power requirements jumped from 75W to whopping 270W.

 

[rolli59]

RX 7800XT is a bit of a overkill with that decade old I5. That money would have been better spent on platform upgrade than GPU.

 

[eziowar]

This is a desire and not actual need for CPU OC. Even when you manage to successfully OC your CPU, at most, you're looking ~5% gain, which is negligible. Maybe 3-6 FPS more in games or ~20 seconds less in CPU render. Neither of the two are worth the effort of CPU OC.
So, what is the real reason why you want to OC your CPU?


Yes. MoBo seems to throw a fit (e.g RAM XMP won't hold anymore, system fails to POST).

Ty, main reason is to get more fps in games.

 

[Aeacus]

main reason is to get more fps in games.

It depends on a game since either CPU or GPU is favored more.

For example:
CPU heavy game - Cities:Skylines. <- With this game, it doesn't matter how good of a GPU you have, you're still limited with the FPS your CPU can provide.
GPU heavy game - Crysis <- With this game, CPU is used little, while GPU is used heavily. Here it doesn't matter much what CPU you have, since FPS is limited what GPU can provide.

But if you need more FPS, options are:
* lower in-game resolution
* lower in-game graphical settings (e.g disable/low shadows, anti-aliasing etc.)
* don't use game mods (since loads of mods require CPU compute power and high amount of RAM)