[SOLVED] Help! Are my m.2 ssds gone?

[noobsaibot99]

I was supposed to be switching all of my drives from my old to my newer msi laptop (its 2nd hand but newer)

That includes a 1tb hdd, 1 128gb m.2, 1 500gb m.2

I booted the msi laptop for a final check to its OS drive without plugging it. Then pressed the power button and proceeded to transfer my drives.

After finishing and turning it upside down i saw the led indicator was blinking. I realized that it may have been in hibernate all this time and i may have shorted the m.2s since i wasnt able to cleanly place them on the pins because of its ridiculous placement on the laptops mobo.

The msi laptop did not boot at all and was just turning on for about 2 secs then powers off with any of the drives i newly placed. I tried other drives and it seems to be working without a drive or with a drive that is not related to my old laptop. And by working i mean fans are running, cpu gpu is heating but no display on the monitor and storage reading in the LED indicator

I checked if my drives are still working on my older laptop and now its in the state as my msi laptop.

Im really desperate now, my work really depends on this. If i can just get either one to work id be very thankful. 2020 has not been good to me. Im a month or 2 away from being broke. Please help

 

[fzabkar]

Did the 1TB HDD fail, too?

Are the SSDs SATA or NVMe?

Can you upload detailed photos of the damaged PCBs?

Sometimes there is an easy, no cost, DIY fix.

 

[noobsaibot99]

Did the 1TB HDD fail, too?

Are the SSDs SATA or NVMe?

Can you upload detailed photos of the damaged PCBs?

Sometimes there is an easy, no cost, DIY fix.

I dont know if the 1tb failed because the laptop powers on but the screen doesnt post anything.

There seems to be no damage on the pcbs and no signs or smell of it being fried.

I can email you the photos

 

[fzabkar]

Upload the photos to Imgur or Google Drive or some other file sharing site.

 

[noobsaibot99]

Upload the photos to Imgur or Google Drive or some other file sharing site.

I hope this helps

https://drive.google.com/file/d/176sj97np_ysQ4uDbaeNseWnHNC9ct6Ww/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DDPjcagd-fI9LauHIhHKPQsOJV9Qy5X1/view?usp=drivesdk

 

[fzabkar]

Your photos are extremely poor, bordering on useless.

The Toshiba THNSN5256GPU7 SSD appears to have a protection diode (TVS) and a load switch or electronic fuse near the corner with the white arrow (pin #1). If you can give me a better photo of that area, and if you can get hold of a digital multimeter (US$5), I can help you to test these components. If they are faulty, and if there is no other problem, the fix is relatively easy and should cost you nothing.

I'm still looking on the Internet for better photos of the others.

Edit:

The Samsung 850 Evo M.2 has an electronic fuse.

BTW, are we to understand that you cannot boot either of your laptops from any of your drives?

 

[noobsaibot99]

Your photos are extremely poor, bordering on useless.

The Toshiba THNSN5256GPU7 SSD appears to have a protection diode (TVS) and a load switch or electronic fuse near the corner with the white arrow (pin #1). If you can give me a better photo of that area, and if you can get hold of a digital multimeter (US$5), I can help you to test these components. If they are faulty, and if there is no other problem, the fix is relatively easy and should cost you nothing.

I'm still looking on the Internet for better photos of the others.

Edit:

The Samsung 850 Evo M.2 has an electronic fuse.

BTW, are we to understand that you cannot boot either of your laptops from any of your drives?

Sorry, Here are better photos.
Yes, they turn on. power and battery are detected via led indicator but does not display anything on the screen with or without a drive that is not shown on the pics


https://drive.google.com/file/d/13A6XHKJ8yewlwO148YDQbHnDDXwDrd6q/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/136WIk9tFBfLFjrgodWAIL_EotV2hDOQX/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/135MUx9DmA5DQaGUc-ZLAqi-pZlepNNlk/view?usp=drivesdk

 

[fzabkar]

ISTM that both laptops are dead. Since it appears that your first laptop was damaged by one or more of your SSDs, I suspect that a short circuit on the SSD's 5V input damaged the corresponding 5V supply in the laptop. I recommend that you proceed with caution. It might take some time to resolve the problems, so be patient.

I would start by identifying the failure modes in your SSDs. It may be that some, or most, of them are OK. Since you are typing your posts on another machine, I would purchase several USB adapters and use these to test your SSDs on your working machine.

To this end you would need a USB-SATA adapter for the 2.5" SATA SSDs, a USB-m.2 SATA adapter for the Samsung SSD, and a USB-PCIe/NVMe adapter for the Toshiba and Adata SSDs.

Also purchase a digital multimeter (US$5). Something like this ...

 

[noobsaibot99]

ISTM that both laptops are dead. Since it appears that your first laptop was damaged by one or more of your SSDs, I suspect that a short circuit on the SSD's 5V input damaged the corresponding 5V supply in the laptop. I recommend that you proceed with caution. It might take some time to resolve the problems, so be patient.

I would start by identifying the failure modes in your SSDs. It may be that some, or most, of them are OK. Since you are typing your posts on another machine, I would purchase several USB adapters and use these to test your SSDs on your working machine.

To this end you would need a USB-SATA adapter for the 2.5" SATA SSDs, a USB-m.2 SATA adapter for the Samsung SSD, and a USB-PCIe/NVMe adapter for the Toshiba and Adata SSDs.

Also purchase a digital multimeter (US$5). Something like this ...

I have a non digital multi meter. Would this do?
Also i have a 2.5" ssd usb adapter, ill see if my laptops can boot thru usb.

The m.2 adapters i can acquire them but itll take 4 to 7days.

Im actually just using my phone for this but i do have a backup system that i havent touched in a long time. Ill see if i can work with that

I dont really like going to technicians because of the fear of stripping my laptop for parts
(it's just what they do here in our country)
But At this point im inclined to go to one to see if the situation can still be saved.

 

[fzabkar]

I have a non digital multi meter. Would this do?

Yes. It's just less convenient.

 

[noobsaibot99]

Yes. It's just less convenient.

How do i test the SSDs? I dont exactly know which pins to touch

 

[fzabkar]

I think you should connect them to an appropriate adapter to find out if any are working. Then we can examine the broken ones. Also, we can't measure voltages until the SSD is powered on.

 

[noobsaibot99]

I have some good news, apparently the old laptop seems to boot now after me removing the batt for a day. The only issue now is that it BSODs during logging on windows and i cant seem to get to the bios regardless of how many press on the DEL button. And in the BSOD the error code is different each time.

My next action is to install a new os on a different drive.

Do you have any other suggestions?

 

[noobsaibot99]

I think you should connect them to an appropriate adapter to find out if any are working. Then we can examine the broken ones. Also, we can't measure voltages until the SSD is powered on.

I was able to successfully boot now with the older laptop. Ive checked all 2.5 ssd and hdds via usb adapter. All are ok. It seems that the bootloader is faulty to one of my 2.5 OS drive.

Havent checked the msi laptop and all of m.2s, im planning to do it with adapters.

 

[fzabkar]

Here are the pin definitions for your m.2 SSDs:
http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=106&t=2506

With your multimeter measure the resistance between any of the 3.3V and Ground pins. I would use pins 1 and 2.

Pin #1 is marked by a white arrow. Pin #2 is on the other side of the PCB.

These measurements will tell us if the SSD is shorted,