Build Advice Help me put together a new 10 year build ?

[Erki11]

Hi, I’m upgrading from my old rig (Nvidia GTX 970 and i5-6600K) and aiming for a “10 year build”.

Approximate Purchase Date: 03-04/2025.
Budget Range: around 2500€
Location: Slovakia
System Usage: CS2, Marvel Rivals, Pubg and the latest AAA singleplayer/coop games
Additional Comments: Additionally, I’m planning to hook up an HDMI cable from my PC to my TV so I can play some games in a living room setting. I’m eyeing a 65" Samsung QE65QN85D
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: alza.sk

Here are the components I'm planning to purchase:

1. CPU : AMD Ryzen 7 9700X (€384.00)
2. CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken 240 (€138.00)
3. Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B850-PLUS WIFI ATX (€256.00)
4. Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 (€133.00)
5. Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD (€162.00)
6. Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 9070 XT 16 GB (€800.00)
7. Case: Fractal Design North (€180.00)
8. Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2025) 850 W (€139.00)
9. Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQA1A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz (€187.00) x2
10. Mouse: Logitech PRO X Superlight 2 (€143.00)
11. Headphones: Logitech PRO X 2 LIGHTSPEED (€210.00)

pcpartpicker link: https://sk.pcpartpicker.com/list/27sMmC

 

[Lutfij]

aiming for a “10-year build”.
If this is primarily a gaming build, you should look at an X3D processor. 64GB's of ram out of the box, add a secondary SSD that's smaller in capacity for your OS, launchers and apps. The larger capacity SSD would be your game library. I would replace the NZXT cooler for the Arctic Liquid Freezer III 280/360 or for about half that price, a beefy air cooler.

Have a look at this;
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (€566.90 @ Alza)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 280 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€76.90 @ Alza)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B850M AORUS ELITE WIFI6E ICE Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard (€216.90 @ Alza)
Memory: Corsair Dominator Titanium 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€297.90 @ Alza)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€42.90 @ Alza)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€126.90 @ Alza)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 9070 XT 16 GB Video Card (€800.00)
Case: Fractal Design Define 7 Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case (€121.90 @ Alza)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2025) 850 W Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€139.00)
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQA1A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor (€187.00)
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQA1A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor (€187.00)
Mouse: Logitech PRO X Superlight 2 Wireless/Wired Optical Mouse (€143.00)
Headphones: Logitech PRO X 2 LIGHTSPEED Headset (€210.00)
Total: €2250.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-03-16 23:49 CET+0100
pretty much most of the things aren't showing up on PCPP. ^ Not set in stone, merely a template of what's possible.

 

[helper800]

aiming for a “10-year build”.
If this is primarily a gaming build, you should look at an X3D processor. 64GB's of ram out of the box, add a secondary SSD that's smaller in capacity for your OS, launchers and apps. The larger capacity SSD would be your game library. I would replace the NZXT cooler for the Arctic Liquid Freezer III 280/360 or for about half that price, a beefy air cooler.

Have a look at this;
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (€566.90 @ Alza)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 280 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€76.90 @ Alza)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B850M AORUS ELITE WIFI6E ICE Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard (€216.90 @ Alza)
Memory: Corsair Dominator Titanium 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€297.90 @ Alza)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€42.90 @ Alza)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€126.90 @ Alza)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 9070 XT 16 GB Video Card (€800.00)
Case: Fractal Design Define 7 Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case (€121.90 @ Alza)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2025) 850 W Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€139.00)
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQA1A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor (€187.00)
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQA1A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor (€187.00)
Mouse: Logitech PRO X Superlight 2 Wireless/Wired Optical Mouse (€143.00)
Headphones: Logitech PRO X 2 LIGHTSPEED Headset (€210.00)
Total: €2250.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-03-16 23:49 CET+0100
pretty much most of the things aren't showing up on PCPP. ^ Not set in stone, merely a template of what's possible.

Why does your build cost not total up properly, some mental math has it at about 3150 Euros ?

 

[helper800]

I would swap out to these parts and get one of the following graphics cards for 1000 or less; 9070 XT, 7900XTX, 5070 TI, 5080, 4080, 4080S.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (€566.90 @ Alza)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€86.90 @ Alza)
Motherboard: ASRock X870 Pro RS WiFi ATX AM5 Motherboard (€239.90 @ Alza)
Memory: Patriot Venom 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€186.90 @ Alza)
Storage: Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€149.90 @ Alza)
Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case (€79.90 @ Alza)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2025) 850 W Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€138.90 @ Alza)
Total: €1449.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-03-17 00:39 CET+0100

 

[Why_Me]

Air coolers last longer than AIO's. CS2 and PUBG scream 1440P. Amazon.de, Computer Universe, etc ... ship to Slovakia.

https://geizhals.eu/id-cooling-frozn-a620-pro-se-a3228637.html
ID-COOLING FROZN A620 PRO SE €39,99

https://geizhals.eu/msi-mag-a850gl-pcie5-850w-atx-3-0-306-7zp8a11-ce0-a2979546.html
MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850W ATX 3.0 €106,53

https://geizhals.eu/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-100-100000910wof-a2872148.html
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D €469,99

PCPartPicker Part List

Motherboard: *MSI PRO B850-P WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (€199.90 @ Alza)
Memory: *Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€95.90 @ Alza)
Case: *Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case (€68.90 @ Alza)
Monitor: *AOC Q27G4X 27.0" 2560 x 1440 180 Hz Monitor (€196.00 @ Alza)
Total: €560.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-03-17 02:23 CET+0100

https://aoc.com/us/gaming/products/monitors/q27g4x

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B850-P-WIFI

https://www.montechpc.com/air-903-base

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/montech-air-903-base/

https://www.idcooling.com/product/detail?id=496&name=FROZN A620 PRO SE

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/id-cooling-frozn-a620-pro-se-cpu-air-cooler/6.html

 

[Erki11]

aiming for a “10-year build”.
If this is primarily a gaming build, you should look at an X3D processor. 64GB's of ram out of the box, add a secondary SSD that's smaller in capacity for your OS, launchers and apps. The larger capacity SSD would be your game library. I would replace the NZXT cooler for the Arctic Liquid Freezer III 280/360 or for about half that price, a beefy air cooler.

Have a look at this;
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (€566.90 @ Alza)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 280 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€76.90 @ Alza)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B850M AORUS ELITE WIFI6E ICE Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard (€216.90 @ Alza)
Memory: Corsair Dominator Titanium 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€297.90 @ Alza)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€42.90 @ Alza)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€126.90 @ Alza)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 9070 XT 16 GB Video Card (€800.00)
Case: Fractal Design Define 7 Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case (€121.90 @ Alza)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2025) 850 W Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€139.00)
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQA1A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor (€187.00)
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQA1A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor (€187.00)
Mouse: Logitech PRO X Superlight 2 Wireless/Wired Optical Mouse (€143.00)
Headphones: Logitech PRO X 2 LIGHTSPEED Headset (€210.00)
Total: €2250.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-03-16 23:49 CET+0100
pretty much most of the things aren't showing up on PCPP. ^ Not set in stone, merely a template of what's possible.

Thanks alot

just few questions:

• Do I really need 64GB of RAM right away? I figure I could start with 32GB now and easily add another 32GB in five years if needed, right?
• I see you went with a micro ATX build, which I really like. I’d also be fine with an air cooler if it fits in the case.
• One more question about the SSD—do games really benefit from having a separate drive? With how fast M.2 SSDs are, wouldn’t a single one be enough?

 

[Erki11]

I would swap out to these parts and get one of the following graphics cards for 1000 or less; 9070 XT, 7900XTX, 5070 TI, 5080, 4080, 4080S.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (€566.90 @ Alza)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€86.90 @ Alza)
Motherboard: ASRock X870 Pro RS WiFi ATX AM5 Motherboard (€239.90 @ Alza)
Memory: Patriot Venom 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€186.90 @ Alza)
Storage: Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€149.90 @ Alza)
Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case (€79.90 @ Alza)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2025) 850 W Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€138.90 @ Alza)
Total: €1449.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-03-17 00:39 CET+0100

I would swap out to these parts and get one of the following graphics cards for 1000 or less; 9070 XT, 7900XTX, 5070 TI, 5080, 4080, 4080S.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (€566.90 @ Alza)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€86.90 @ Alza)
Motherboard: ASRock X870 Pro RS WiFi ATX AM5 Motherboard (€239.90 @ Alza)
Memory: Patriot Venom 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€186.90 @ Alza)
Storage: Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€149.90 @ Alza)
Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case (€79.90 @ Alza)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2025) 850 W Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€138.90 @ Alza)
Total: €1449.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-03-17 00:39 CET+0100

I didn’t quite understand the part about the GPU.
I agree on the processor—I’m pretty much set on going with the 9800X3D.
Is there any specific reason why you wouldn’t go with the original G.Skill RAM?
Same for the SSD—I thought the Samsung one was pretty good.

But thanks anyway

 

[USAFRet]

Do I really need 64GB of RAM right away? I figure I could start with 32GB now and easily add another 32GB in five years if needed, right?

No.
Adding more RAM later may not work.

One more question about the SSD—do games really benefit from having a separate drive? With how fast M.2 SSDs are, wouldn’t a single one be enough?

Performance is a wash. No difference. People recommend a drive for the OS and applications, simply for ease of a reinstall.
Other people like the simplicity of a single large drive.

 

[Erki11]

Air coolers last longer than AIO's. CS2 and PUBG scream 1440P. Amazon.de, Computer Universe, etc ... ship to Slovakia.

https://geizhals.eu/id-cooling-frozn-a620-pro-se-a3228637.html
ID-COOLING FROZN A620 PRO SE €39,99

https://geizhals.eu/msi-mag-a850gl-pcie5-850w-atx-3-0-306-7zp8a11-ce0-a2979546.html
MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850W ATX 3.0 €106,53

https://geizhals.eu/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-100-100000910wof-a2872148.html
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D €469,99

PCPartPicker Part List

Motherboard: *MSI PRO B850-P WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (€199.90 @ Alza)
Memory: *Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€95.90 @ Alza)
Case: *Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case (€68.90 @ Alza)
Monitor: *AOC Q27G4X 27.0" 2560 x 1440 180 Hz Monitor (€196.00 @ Alza)
Total: €560.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-03-17 02:23 CET+0100

https://aoc.com/us/gaming/products/monitors/q27g4x

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B850-P-WIFI

https://www.montechpc.com/air-903-base

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/montech-air-903-base/

https://www.idcooling.com/product/detail?id=496&name=FROZN A620 PRO SE

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/id-cooling-frozn-a620-pro-se-cpu-air-cooler/6.html

I have to go with Alza because I’m buying it tax-free.
For example, the 7800X3D is only €40 cheaper than the 9800X3D, so I’d rather go for the newer one.
But I noticed you also changed the motherboard and RAM—are the ones I originally chose not good?
That AOC monitor looks great, BUT I can’t find any info on whether it supports G-Sync or FreeSync.
When choosing the monitor I sent, I specifically made sure it 100% supports FreeSync.

 

[Erki11]

No.
Adding more RAM later may not work.


Performance is a wash. No difference. People recommend a drive for the OS and applications, simply for ease of a reinstall.
Other people like the simplicity of a single large drive.

Okay, in that case, I’d rather go with 64GB right away. I just had the impression that if I’m not using the PC for rendering, 32GB should be enough—maybe even for the next 10 years, no?

If it doesn’t really improve speed, then I’d probably just stick with a single SSD.

 

[Why_Me]

I have to go with Alza because I’m buying it tax-free.
For example, the 7800X3D is only €40 cheaper than the 9800X3D, so I’d rather go for the newer one.
But I noticed you also changed the motherboard and RAM—are the ones I originally chose not good?
That AOC monitor looks great, BUT I can’t find any info on whether it supports G-Sync or FreeSync.
When choosing the monitor I sent, I specifically made sure it 100% supports FreeSync.

That AOC monitor I posted supports both FreeSync and G-Sync.

 

[Erki11]

That AOC monitor I posted supports both FreeSync and G-Sync.

great, then I will go with AOC

 

[bill001g]

Since others have given you a actual answer I will add my comment here. There is no such thing as a computer that will work 10 years. Microsoft will just declare that you must buy a new machine because they decided they no longer want to support your cpu/motherboard on and you must now go to a machine that will run windows 12 or 13 or whatever.

Windows 10 will only be 10 years old this summer and has been declared dead in October.

I suspect they will kill off windows 11 even faster.

 

[dark_globe]

i´m also from slovakia and therefore i´m very familiar with prices and GPU situation .
i would do it like this ( with regards to price / performance / quality/availability ratio at alza)
there is of course some wiggle room when it comes to case , storage etc.

cpu: amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d
cpu cooler: endorfy-fortis-5-black
motherboard: msi-b850-gaming-plus-wifi
memory: kingston-fury-64-gb-kit-ddr5-6000-mhz-cl36-beast-expo
storage: samsung-990-evo-plus-4-tb
power supply: adata-xpg-core-reactor-ii-850-w
case: be-quiet-pure-base-501-airflow-black
graphics card: (unavailable at the moment) : radeon-rx-9070-xt-gaming-16g

total price without the gpu : 1 532 euro (with taxes)

 

[Erki11]

i´m also from slovakia and therefore i´m very familiar with prices and GPU situation .
i would do it like this ( with regards to price / performance / quality/availability ratio at alza)
there is of course some wiggle room when it comes to case , storage etc.

cpu: amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d
cpu cooler: endorfy-fortis-5-black
motherboard: msi-b850-gaming-plus-wifi
memory: kingston-fury-64-gb-kit-ddr5-6000-mhz-cl36-beast-expo
storage: samsung-990-evo-plus-4-tb
power supply: adata-xpg-core-reactor-ii-850-w
case: be-quiet-pure-base-501-airflow-black
graphics card: (unavailable at the moment) : radeon-rx-9070-xt-gaming-16g

total price without the gpu : 1 532 euro (with taxes)

I’m pretty much set on the CPU and GPU.
Is the Endorfy CPU cooler good? I have no experience with their products.
Is there a big difference between G.Skill and Kingston RAM? From what I’ve seen, G.Skill seems to be the best choice, or am I wrong?
As for storage, I think 2TB should be enough.