Build Advice Help me put together a new 10 year build ?

Erki11 · Sunday at 6:14 PM

Hi, I’m upgrading from my old rig (Nvidia GTX 970 and i5-6600K) and aiming for a “10 year build”.

Approximate Purchase Date: 03-04/2025.
Budget Range: around 2500€
Location: Slovakia
System Usage: CS2, Marvel Rivals, Pubg and the latest AAA singleplayer/coop games
Additional Comments: Additionally, I’m planning to hook up an HDMI cable from my PC to my TV so I can play some games in a living room setting. I’m eyeing a 65" Samsung QE65QN85D
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: alza.sk

Here are the components I'm planning to purchase:

CPU : AMD Ryzen 7 9700X (€384.00)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken 240 (€138.00)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B850-PLUS WIFI ATX (€256.00)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 (€133.00)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD (€162.00)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 9070 XT 16 GB (€800.00)
Case: Fractal Design North (€180.00)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2025) 850 W (€139.00)
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQA1A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz (€187.00) x2
Mouse: Logitech PRO X Superlight 2 (€143.00)
Headphones: Logitech PRO X 2 LIGHTSPEED (€210.00)

pcpartpicker link: https://sk.pcpartpicker.com/list/27sMmC

Lutfij · Sunday at 6:50 PM

aiming for a “10-year build”.
If this is primarily a gaming build, you should look at an X3D processor. 64GB's of ram out of the box, add a secondary SSD that's smaller in capacity for your OS, launchers and apps. The larger capacity SSD would be your game library. I would replace the NZXT cooler for the Arctic Liquid Freezer III 280/360 or for about half that price, a beefy air cooler.

Have a look at this;
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (€566.90 @ Alza)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 280 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€76.90 @ Alza)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B850M AORUS ELITE WIFI6E ICE Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard (€216.90 @ Alza)
Memory: Corsair Dominator Titanium 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€297.90 @ Alza)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€42.90 @ Alza)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€126.90 @ Alza)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 9070 XT 16 GB Video Card (€800.00)
Case: Fractal Design Define 7 Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case (€121.90 @ Alza)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2025) 850 W Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€139.00)
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQA1A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor (€187.00)
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQA1A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor (€187.00)
Mouse: Logitech PRO X Superlight 2 Wireless/Wired Optical Mouse (€143.00)
Headphones: Logitech PRO X 2 LIGHTSPEED Headset (€210.00)
Total: €2250.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-03-16 23:49 CET+0100
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helper800 · Sunday at 7:28 PM

Lutfij said:
aiming for a “10-year build”.
If this is primarily a gaming build, you should look at an X3D processor. 64GB's of ram out of the box, add a secondary SSD that's smaller in capacity for your OS, launchers and apps. The larger capacity SSD would be your game library. I would replace the NZXT cooler for the Arctic Liquid Freezer III 280/360 or for about half that price, a beefy air cooler.

Have a look at this;
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (€566.90 @ Alza)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 280 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€76.90 @ Alza)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B850M AORUS ELITE WIFI6E ICE Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard (€216.90 @ Alza)
Memory: Corsair Dominator Titanium 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€297.90 @ Alza)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€42.90 @ Alza)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€126.90 @ Alza)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 9070 XT 16 GB Video Card (€800.00)
Case: Fractal Design Define 7 Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case (€121.90 @ Alza)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2025) 850 W Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€139.00)
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQA1A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor (€187.00)
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQA1A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor (€187.00)
Mouse: Logitech PRO X Superlight 2 Wireless/Wired Optical Mouse (€143.00)
Headphones: Logitech PRO X 2 LIGHTSPEED Headset (€210.00)
Total: €2250.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-03-16 23:49 CET+0100
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Why does your build cost not total up properly, some mental math has it at about 3150 Euros ?

helper800 · Sunday at 7:40 PM

I would swap out to these parts and get one of the following graphics cards for 1000 or less; 9070 XT, 7900XTX, 5070 TI, 5080, 4080, 4080S.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (€566.90 @ Alza)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€86.90 @ Alza)
Motherboard: ASRock X870 Pro RS WiFi ATX AM5 Motherboard (€239.90 @ Alza)
Memory: Patriot Venom 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€186.90 @ Alza)
Storage: Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€149.90 @ Alza)
Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case (€79.90 @ Alza)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2025) 850 W Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€138.90 @ Alza)
Total: €1449.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-03-17 00:39 CET+0100

Why_Me · Sunday at 9:28 PM

Air coolers last longer than AIO's. CS2 and PUBG scream 1440P. Amazon.de, Computer Universe, etc ... ship to Slovakia.

https://geizhals.eu/id-cooling-frozn-a620-pro-se-a3228637.html
ID-COOLING FROZN A620 PRO SE €39,99

https://geizhals.eu/msi-mag-a850gl-pcie5-850w-atx-3-0-306-7zp8a11-ce0-a2979546.html
MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850W ATX 3.0 €106,53

https://geizhals.eu/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-100-100000910wof-a2872148.html
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D €469,99

PCPartPicker Part List

Motherboard: *MSI PRO B850-P WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (€199.90 @ Alza)
Memory: *Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€95.90 @ Alza)
Case: *Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case (€68.90 @ Alza)
Monitor: *AOC Q27G4X 27.0" 2560 x 1440 180 Hz Monitor (€196.00 @ Alza)
Total: €560.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-03-17 02:23 CET+0100

https://aoc.com/us/gaming/products/monitors/q27g4x

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B850-P-WIFI

https://www.montechpc.com/air-903-base

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/montech-air-903-base/

https://www.idcooling.com/product/detail?id=496&name=FROZN A620 PRO SE

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/id-cooling-frozn-a620-pro-se-cpu-air-cooler/6.html

Erki11 · Monday at 2:41 AM

Lutfij said:
aiming for a “10-year build”.
If this is primarily a gaming build, you should look at an X3D processor. 64GB's of ram out of the box, add a secondary SSD that's smaller in capacity for your OS, launchers and apps. The larger capacity SSD would be your game library. I would replace the NZXT cooler for the Arctic Liquid Freezer III 280/360 or for about half that price, a beefy air cooler.

Have a look at this;
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (€566.90 @ Alza)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 280 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€76.90 @ Alza)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B850M AORUS ELITE WIFI6E ICE Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard (€216.90 @ Alza)
Memory: Corsair Dominator Titanium 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€297.90 @ Alza)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€42.90 @ Alza)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€126.90 @ Alza)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 9070 XT 16 GB Video Card (€800.00)
Case: Fractal Design Define 7 Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case (€121.90 @ Alza)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2025) 850 W Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€139.00)
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQA1A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor (€187.00)
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQA1A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor (€187.00)
Mouse: Logitech PRO X Superlight 2 Wireless/Wired Optical Mouse (€143.00)
Headphones: Logitech PRO X 2 LIGHTSPEED Headset (€210.00)
Total: €2250.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-03-16 23:49 CET+0100
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Thanks alot

just few questions:

Do I really need 64GB of RAM right away? I figure I could start with 32GB now and easily add another 32GB in five years if needed, right?
I see you went with a micro ATX build, which I really like. I’d also be fine with an air cooler if it fits in the case.
One more question about the SSD—do games really benefit from having a separate drive? With how fast M.2 SSDs are, wouldn’t a single one be enough?

Erki11 · Monday at 2:53 AM

helper800 said:
I would swap out to these parts and get one of the following graphics cards for 1000 or less; 9070 XT, 7900XTX, 5070 TI, 5080, 4080, 4080S.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (€566.90 @ Alza)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€86.90 @ Alza)
Motherboard: ASRock X870 Pro RS WiFi ATX AM5 Motherboard (€239.90 @ Alza)
Memory: Patriot Venom 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€186.90 @ Alza)
Storage: Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€149.90 @ Alza)
Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case (€79.90 @ Alza)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2025) 850 W Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€138.90 @ Alza)
Total: €1449.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-03-17 00:39 CET+0100

I didn’t quite understand the part about the GPU.
I agree on the processor—I’m pretty much set on going with the 9800X3D.
Is there any specific reason why you wouldn’t go with the original G.Skill RAM?
Same for the SSD—I thought the Samsung one was pretty good.

But thanks anyway

USAFRet · Monday at 2:57 AM

Erki11 said:
Do I really need 64GB of RAM right away? I figure I could start with 32GB now and easily add another 32GB in five years if needed, right?

No.
Adding more RAM later may not work.

Erki11 said:
One more question about the SSD—do games really benefit from having a separate drive? With how fast M.2 SSDs are, wouldn’t a single one be enough?

Performance is a wash. No difference. People recommend a drive for the OS and applications, simply for ease of a reinstall.
Other people like the simplicity of a single large drive.

Erki11 · Monday at 3:03 AM

Why_Me said:
Air coolers last longer than AIO's. CS2 and PUBG scream 1440P. Amazon.de, Computer Universe, etc ... ship to Slovakia.

https://geizhals.eu/id-cooling-frozn-a620-pro-se-a3228637.html
ID-COOLING FROZN A620 PRO SE €39,99

https://geizhals.eu/msi-mag-a850gl-pcie5-850w-atx-3-0-306-7zp8a11-ce0-a2979546.html
MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850W ATX 3.0 €106,53

https://geizhals.eu/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-100-100000910wof-a2872148.html
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D €469,99

PCPartPicker Part List

Motherboard: *MSI PRO B850-P WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (€199.90 @ Alza)
Memory: *Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€95.90 @ Alza)
Case: *Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case (€68.90 @ Alza)
Monitor: *AOC Q27G4X 27.0" 2560 x 1440 180 Hz Monitor (€196.00 @ Alza)
Total: €560.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-03-17 02:23 CET+0100

https://aoc.com/us/gaming/products/monitors/q27g4x

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B850-P-WIFI

https://www.montechpc.com/air-903-base

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/montech-air-903-base/

https://www.idcooling.com/product/detail?id=496&name=FROZN A620 PRO SE

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/id-cooling-frozn-a620-pro-se-cpu-air-cooler/6.html

I have to go with Alza because I’m buying it tax-free.
For example, the 7800X3D is only €40 cheaper than the 9800X3D, so I’d rather go for the newer one.
But I noticed you also changed the motherboard and RAM—are the ones I originally chose not good?
That AOC monitor looks great, BUT I can’t find any info on whether it supports G-Sync or FreeSync.
When choosing the monitor I sent, I specifically made sure it 100% supports FreeSync.

Erki11 · Monday at 3:12 AM

USAFRet said:
No.
Adding more RAM later may not work.

Performance is a wash. No difference. People recommend a drive for the OS and applications, simply for ease of a reinstall.
Other people like the simplicity of a single large drive.

Okay, in that case, I’d rather go with 64GB right away. I just had the impression that if I’m not using the PC for rendering, 32GB should be enough—maybe even for the next 10 years, no?

If it doesn’t really improve speed, then I’d probably just stick with a single SSD.

Why_Me · Monday at 6:48 AM

Erki11 said:
I have to go with Alza because I’m buying it tax-free.
For example, the 7800X3D is only €40 cheaper than the 9800X3D, so I’d rather go for the newer one.
But I noticed you also changed the motherboard and RAM—are the ones I originally chose not good?
That AOC monitor looks great, BUT I can’t find any info on whether it supports G-Sync or FreeSync.
When choosing the monitor I sent, I specifically made sure it 100% supports FreeSync.

That AOC monitor I posted supports both FreeSync and G-Sync.

Erki11 · Monday at 6:57 AM

Why_Me said:
That AOC monitor I posted supports both FreeSync and G-Sync.

great, then I will go with AOC

bill001g · Monday at 7:12 AM

Since others have given you a actual answer I will add my comment here. There is no such thing as a computer that will work 10 years. Microsoft will just declare that you must buy a new machine because they decided they no longer want to support your cpu/motherboard on and you must now go to a machine that will run windows 12 or 13 or whatever.

Windows 10 will only be 10 years old this summer and has been declared dead in October.

I suspect they will kill off windows 11 even faster.

dark_globe · Monday at 7:52 AM

i´m also from slovakia and therefore i´m very familiar with prices and GPU situation .
i would do it like this ( with regards to price / performance / quality/availability ratio at alza)
there is of course some wiggle room when it comes to case , storage etc.

cpu: amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d
cpu cooler: endorfy-fortis-5-black
motherboard: msi-b850-gaming-plus-wifi
memory: kingston-fury-64-gb-kit-ddr5-6000-mhz-cl36-beast-expo
storage: samsung-990-evo-plus-4-tb
power supply: adata-xpg-core-reactor-ii-850-w
case: be-quiet-pure-base-501-airflow-black
graphics card: (unavailable at the moment) : radeon-rx-9070-xt-gaming-16g

total price without the gpu : 1 532 euro (with taxes)

Erki11 · Monday at 2:22 PM

dark_globe said:
i´m also from slovakia and therefore i´m very familiar with prices and GPU situation .
i would do it like this ( with regards to price / performance / quality/availability ratio at alza)
there is of course some wiggle room when it comes to case , storage etc.

cpu: amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d
cpu cooler: endorfy-fortis-5-black
motherboard: msi-b850-gaming-plus-wifi
memory: kingston-fury-64-gb-kit-ddr5-6000-mhz-cl36-beast-expo
storage: samsung-990-evo-plus-4-tb
power supply: adata-xpg-core-reactor-ii-850-w
case: be-quiet-pure-base-501-airflow-black
graphics card: (unavailable at the moment) : radeon-rx-9070-xt-gaming-16g

total price without the gpu : 1 532 euro (with taxes)

I’m pretty much set on the CPU and GPU.
Is the Endorfy CPU cooler good? I have no experience with their products.
Is there a big difference between G.Skill and Kingston RAM? From what I’ve seen, G.Skill seems to be the best choice, or am I wrong?
As for storage, I think 2TB should be enough.

JayGau · Monday at 2:48 PM

Erki11 said:
Okay, in that case, I’d rather go with 64GB right away. I just had the impression that if I’m not using the PC for rendering, 32GB should be enough—maybe even for the next 10 years, no?

If it doesn’t really improve speed, then I’d probably just stick with a single SSD.

Not so along ago, 16 GB was considered as overkill and now nobody would build a gaming PC with less than 32 GB, so if you want your PC to last for a while you should go with 64 GB. And since it's really not recommended to mix RAM kits, it's not a good idea to "add" RAM later.

But unlike the RAM, adding a drive later if you need more space is perfectly fine and easy to do, so you can start with a 2 TB and add an extra 2 or 4 TB in two or three years (if needed).

Edit: someone recommended to go with an Artic Freezer 360 instead of NZXT but I strongly disagree. Artic Freezer are overpriced and lack the main feature any AIO should have: a liquid temperature sensor for the radiator fan curve.

dark_globe · Monday at 7:46 PM

Erki11 said:
I’m pretty much set on the CPU and GPU.
Is the Endorfy CPU cooler good? I have no experience with their products.

their coolers are decent (good price to performance ratio)
fortis is one of their bigger coolers and it will have no problem with an 8 core cpu .
it is one of the things you can save money on ...
you really don´t need fancy and expensive AIO cooler (pragmatically speaking)

Erki11 said:
Is there a big difference between G.Skill and Kingston RAM? From what I’ve seen, G.Skill seems to be the best choice, or am I wrong?

both will work just fine , kingstons are cheaper at alza so that is why i linked them .
of course you can get a premium kits with hynix chips which are better for OC
but we are talking pretty dimishing returns in this case ...

Erki11 said:
As for storage, I think 2TB should be enough.

thats up to you , i put 4gb just because you want to have a "future proof" system and
from personal experience i know 2tb is already barely enough .
but of course you can add additional storage later .

Erki11 · Tuesday at 4:52 PM

I went through all your suggestions again, and I’ve finally come up with this build. What do you think about it?
I'm still unsure about a few things...

Link to the build: https://sk.pcpartpicker.com/list/hRf4Jn

CPU – I think I'll go with the 9800X3D, even though in 1440p gaming benchmarks, the difference compared to the 9700X isn't that big—usually around 5–20 FPS max. The price difference for me is €181.
CPU Cooler– I have no idea which one to pick. Alza (where I want to buy my parts) has a relatively small selection. They don’t have ThermalRight coolers, and the Noctua NH-D15 is only available in its standard color, not black.
- I also checked AIO coolers, and based on existing builds, I don’t think anything larger than a 240mm radiator would fit at the top of this case.
- I'm definitely open to suggestions here, as I've read multiple posts saying that the 9800X3D can have temperature issues under heavy load, so I don’t want to underestimate cooling.
Motherboard – I think this one is a solid choice based on its specs. I also looked at B650 boards, and the MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI is €40 cheaper, which could be an alternative.
RAM – I believe these Kingston Fury Beast CL30 modules are a good choice. They are reasonably priced on Alza, and I don’t see a reason to pay extra for something more expensive.
SSD – I chose the Samsung 990 Pro for €185, but I was also considering the Samsung 990 EVO Plus2, which is €40 cheaper. Not sure if it's worth paying the extra €40.
GPU – No doubts about this choice.
Case – I really like the look of this case, but the price is relatively high. Also, considering the combination of cooler + GPU + the case itself, I’m really unsure which cooler would fit best.
Power Supply – I don’t think there's much to overthink here. Based on power consumption calculations, this 850W PSU should be more than enough, and the price seems reasonable.

artk2219 · Tuesday at 5:23 PM

Erki11 said:
I went through all your suggestions again, and I’ve finally come up with this build. What do you think about it?
I'm still unsure about a few things...

Link to the build: https://sk.pcpartpicker.com/list/hRf4Jn

CPU – I think I'll go with the 9800X3D, even though in 1440p gaming benchmarks, the difference compared to the 9700X isn't that big—usually around 5–20 FPS max. The price difference for me is €181.

CPU Cooler– I have no idea which one to pick. Alza (where I want to buy my parts) has a relatively small selection. They don’t have ThermalRight coolers, and the Noctua NH-D15 is only available in its standard color, not black.

I also checked AIO coolers, and based on existing builds, I don’t think anything larger than a 240mm radiator would fit at the top of this case.

I'm definitely open to suggestions here, as I've read multiple posts saying that the 9800X3D can have temperature issues under heavy load, so I don’t want to underestimate cooling.

Motherboard – I think this one is a solid choice based on its specs. I also looked at B650 boards, and the MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI is €40 cheaper, which could be an alternative.

RAM – I believe these Kingston Fury Beast CL30 modules are a good choice. They are reasonably priced on Alza, and I don’t see a reason to pay extra for something more expensive.

SSD – I chose the Samsung 990 Pro for €185, but I was also considering the Samsung 990 EVO Plus2, which is €40 cheaper. Not sure if it's worth paying the extra €40.

GPU – No doubts about this choice.

Case – I really like the look of this case, but the price is relatively high. Also, considering the combination of cooler + GPU + the case itself, I’m really unsure which cooler would fit best.

Power Supply – I don’t think there's much to overthink here. Based on power consumption calculations, this 850W PSU should be more than enough, and the price seems reasonable.

If you want the machine to last a while with minimal maintenance, i would not go with an AIO. Even though they are sealed, they aren't completely sealed and some coolant will always evaporate, lowering your cooling efficiency, and potentially causing it to over heat. Also the pump can go bad, they could have used dissimilar metals or bad fluid chemistry and the internal fins will clog up, there are more points of failure than a chunk of metal and a fan that you can likely replace if it uses standard 120mm fans.

JayGau · Tuesday at 6:42 PM

artk2219 said:
If you want the machine to last a while with minimal maintenance, i would not go with an AIO. Even though they are sealed, they aren't completely sealed and some coolant will always evaporate, lowering your cooling efficiency, and potentially causing it to over heat. Also the pump can go bad, they could have used dissimilar metals or bad fluid chemistry and the internal fins will clog up, there are more points of failure than a chunk of metal and a fan that you can likely replace if it uses standard 120mm fans.

The very first AIO I bought in 2017 is still working great in my Linux machine. I've got three others since then and the only thing that ever failed on any of them is the RGB. One of my colleagues has been using twelve 240mm AIO for several years in his computational cluster that is running 24/7 and didn't have any problems so far. They are more robust than most people think. And you can also easily replace fans on a AIO (they always use standard 120 or 140 mm fans).

Of course, air coolers are very likely to last longer, but I personnally prefer to take the risk and not have to suffer those annoying fan bursts every time my CPU gets a little load (and it's why I think that AIO without a readable liquid temperature sensor are an insult to PC building).

Erki11 · 2025-03-19T01:45:03-0400

I was also looking at air coolers, but I can't decide which one to get. The store I order from has a limited selection. Specifically, I was looking at this one:
be quiet! Dark Rock Elite, but I'm not sure if everything will fit, especially the RAM clearance.

As for the lifespan of liquid coolers, I bought an NZXT Kraken X31 exactly on April 9, 2016. It's been running every day, and for at least the past year, my CPU has often been at 90-100% usage. Despite that, it's still working without any issues.

dark_globe · 2025-03-19T03:03:08-0400

silentium fortis that i have suggested is really sufficient and it is relatively cheap
(it will save you some money that you can than use elsewhere) .
it performs on par (or very close) with some of the coolers which are twice its price .
check out some of the reviews and tests and you will see for yourself :
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/silentiumpc-fortis-5-fortis-5-dual-fan-cpu-air-coolers/9.html

i can also recommend DeepCool coolers ,
sadly alza no longer has AK620 in stock (which would be ideal for X3D CPUs) ,
but i have been running my 5700x even on a smaller AK400 with PBO enabled
for over 2 years now and never had a single issue

Erki11 · 2025-03-19T03:43:01-0400

dark_globe said:
silentium fortis that i have suggested is really sufficient and it is relatively cheap
(it will save you some money that you can than use elsewhere) .
it performs on par (or very close) with some of the coolers which are twice its price .
check out some of the reviews and tests and you will see for yourself :
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/silentiumpc-fortis-5-fortis-5-dual-fan-cpu-air-coolers/9.html

i can also recommend DeepCool coolers ,
sadly alza no longer has AK620 in stock (which would be ideal for X3D CPUs) ,
but i have been running my 5700x even on a smaller AK400 with PBO enabled
for over 2 years now and never had a single issue

the fortis 5 seems to have similar power as noctua nh-u12s and I have already read that it was not enough for 9800x3d so Im not sure

dark_globe · 2025-03-19T04:43:04-0400

Erki11 said:
the fortis 5 seems to have similar power as noctua nh-u12s and I have already read that it was not enough for 9800x3d so Im not sure

the dark rock elite that you have selected is twice as expensive and performs almost the same
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/be-quiet-dark-rock-elite-cpu-air-cooler/6.html

alza has very limited selection of air coolers
if you truly want ultimate performance with no compromise and still shop locally
than this is probably the best option i can find:
DeepCool-ASSASSIN-IV-CPU-Cooler-140mm-Black

Misgar · 2025-03-19T05:59:42-0400

bill001g said:
Windows 10 will only be 10 years old this summer and has been declared dead in October.

If you're prepared to pay for extra support ($61 first year, $122 second year, $244 third year) you can receive Extended Security Updates for Windows 10 until October 2028. I doubt most home users will take up this kind offer from Microsoft, but it's there for the taking.
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/extended-security-updates

Life is a bit more rosy for corporate users subscribing to Microsoft's Long Term Service Channel (LTSC), e.g. Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2019 extended support continues until January 9, 2029.
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-10-enterprise-ltsc-2019

Even better, extended support for Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 lasts until January 13, 2032.
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-10-iot-enterprise-ltsc-2021

I wouldn't propose running game software in LTSC, but there's still some life left in Windows 10, even though free support for Home and Professional (amongst others) ends in October 2025.

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