Help needed building modern gaming and development Desktop. Last one I built was in 2009

[ameya_13]

As the title says, I am building a new desktop for gaming and software development so want to get advice from the experts here if I am on the right track for it. The last desktop I built was in 2009 and had similar requirements but I was also pressed for cash at the time so I went for a value for money build. This time I have more financial freedom so I want to make sure I consider all factors. I have shortlisted my builds to 2 with the expected Ryzen 2 series due to launch soon as the alternative.

Build 1
https://se.pcpartpicker.com/user/ameya_13/saved/yW2D8d
The monitor is actually the AOC Q3279VWF which strangely enough was not part of pcpartpicker so used one which was similar. I am also wondering if I can go with the cheaper Asrock Extreme4 Z370 instead and buy a wireless pci card. Decided to go with two ssd instead of NVMe as the price difference was too high in my opinion

Build 2 (only changes from above build)
CPU - Ryzen 7 2700
Motherboard - X470??
Cpu cooler - stock

My requirements in terms of gaming are mainly RPG titles like Skyrim Special Edition, The witcher 2 and the witcher 3 etc. The title I play the most is warframe. In terms of software development, I expect my desktop to be able to run multiple docker containers running databases or java microservices. I intend to use one ssd primarily for my linux based development desktop and the other for my windows gaming. I intend for this to be a dual boot system.

On the gaming front, I can wait for some time as I have a Lenovo Y50-70 laptop for the time being. The problem I foresee with the ryzen is that I will have to purchase a discrete graphics card for a short time (something like the 1050 or 1050 Ti) till the prices come down as I won't even get a display otherwise.

My questions are thus -
* Are there any obvious flaws in my build?
* Will the i7 or the Ryzen 2700 be better for my needs. I understand the 2700 isn't launched yet but assuming that it will be at least 10% better than the 1700?
* Will I have to buy a discrete graphics card temporarily if I go with the Ryzen (I have an old MSI Radeon 6850 OC which I can get in another couple of months to tide me over till the gpu crisis hopefully resolves itself)
* Is there any way to reduce cost slightly without compromising on performance that I have missed?
* Are the cooling solutions (both case airflow and cpu cooling) sufficient?
* Is the PSU too much for this build assuming I add a graphics card at some point like the 1080?
* I have not overclocked before. Does overclocking still void warranty? I don't want to risk these expensive parts till the warranty lapses in that case.

Thanks in advance for any help I receive on this.

 

[superninja12]

My questions are thus -
* Are there any obvious flaws in my build?
- no

* Will the i7 or the Ryzen 2700 be better for my needs. I understand the 2700 isn't launched yet but assuming that it will be at least 10% better than the 1700?
- the i7 will be better, maybe not always for the rendering stuff , but sometimes it is and it will always be better for the gaming part.

* Will I have to buy a discrete graphics card temporarily if I go with the Ryzen (I have an old MSI Radeon 6850 OC which I can get in another couple of months to tide me over till the gpu crisis hopefully resolves itself)
- yes , ryzen has got no onboard grapics(except the g series, which are quite weak)

* Is there any way to reduce cost slightly without compromising on performance that I have missed?
- 500 gb ssd and 1 tb hdd?

* Are the cooling solutions (both case airflow and cpu cooling) sufficient?
- you nailed it

* Is the PSU too much for this build assuming I add a graphics card at some point like the 1080?
no its great.

* I have not overclocked before. Does overclocking still void warranty? I don't want to risk these expensive parts till the warranty lapses in that case.
overclocking is your own risk... so yes.. but the chance u will break stuff is near 0. there are ALOT of safety features build in.

 

[zyh1987]

My questions are thus -
* Are there any obvious flaws in my build?
No

* Will the i7 or the Ryzen 2700 be better for my needs. I understand the 2700 isn't launched yet but assuming that it will be at least 10% better than the 1700?
gaming wise, i7 will be still better.

* Will I have to buy a discrete graphics card temporarily if I go with the Ryzen (I have an old MSI Radeon 6850 OC which I can get in another couple of months to tide me over till the gpu crisis hopefully resolves itself)
should be okay

* Is there any way to reduce cost slightly without compromising on performance that I have missed?
if you don't oc, using 8700 with stock cooler saves about $100+ usd, you can pbbly go with a cheaper MB like asrock pro4.

* Are the cooling solutions (both case airflow and cpu cooling) sufficient?
yes

* Is the PSU too much for this build assuming I add a graphics card at some point like the 1080?
650w is a good number.

* I have not overclocked before. Does overclocking still void warranty? I don't want to risk these expensive parts till the warranty lapses in that case.
official response is Yes.

 

[ameya_13]

My questions are thus -
* Are there any obvious flaws in my build?
No

* Will the i7 or the Ryzen 2700 be better for my needs. I understand the 2700 isn't launched yet but assuming that it will be at least 10% better than the 1700?
gaming wise, i7 will be still better.

* Will I have to buy a discrete graphics card temporarily if I go with the Ryzen (I have an old MSI Radeon 6850 OC which I can get in another couple of months to tide me over till the gpu crisis hopefully resolves itself)
should be okay

* Is there any way to reduce cost slightly without compromising on performance that I have missed?
if you don't oc, using 8700 with stock cooler saves about $100+ usd, you can pbbly go with a cheaper MB like asrock pro4.

* Are the cooling solutions (both case airflow and cpu cooling) sufficient?
yes

* Is the PSU too much for this build assuming I add a graphics card at some point like the 1080?
650w is a good number.

* I have not overclocked before. Does overclocking still void warranty? I don't want to risk these expensive parts till the warranty lapses in that case.
official response is Yes.

Thanks for your response! However, here in Sweden, the price difference between the 8700 and 8700k is about 300 kr so just about 30 dollars. I have also heard the stock cooler on the intels is really bad. Is it enough for the 8700 which I assume will run quite hot.

 

[ameya_13]

My questions are thus -
* Are there any obvious flaws in my build?
- no

* Will the i7 or the Ryzen 2700 be better for my needs. I understand the 2700 isn't launched yet but assuming that it will be at least 10% better than the 1700?
- the i7 will be better, maybe not always for the rendering stuff , but sometimes it is and it will always be better for the gaming part.

* Will I have to buy a discrete graphics card temporarily if I go with the Ryzen (I have an old MSI Radeon 6850 OC which I can get in another couple of months to tide me over till the gpu crisis hopefully resolves itself)
- yes , ryzen has got no onboard grapics(except the g series, which are quite weak)

* Is there any way to reduce cost slightly without compromising on performance that I have missed?
- 500 gb ssd and 1 tb hdd?

* Are the cooling solutions (both case airflow and cpu cooling) sufficient?
- you nailed it

* Is the PSU too much for this build assuming I add a graphics card at some point like the 1080?
no its great.

* I have not overclocked before. Does overclocking still void warranty? I don't want to risk these expensive parts till the warranty lapses in that case.
overclocking is your own risk... so yes.. but the chance u will break stuff is near 0. there are ALOT of safety features build in.

Thanks for your response! Also, I will take your suggestion of using a single ssd and an hdd to go with it if needed. Any opinions on the Asrock Extreme 4 vs the Asrock Taichi vs the Gigabyte Aorus 5? I saw that the taichi is on discount right now costing the same as the Aorus 5 from where I am planning to buy.

 

[superninja12]

tachi is better than all the other 2.

defenetly grab it if you can get it
it also has got a dual lan port which is quite rare nowadays