Help needed ssd format now laptop buggy/Stuttering.

[Joshy21]

Okay so i bought a laptop 2nd hand was running fine had windows 10 as its OS, decided to do a clean install of windows 10 when doing so i deleted all partions using windows 10 media creation tool then installed windows 10 and it was running perfect. After this i rememberd i forgot to format it after i deleted all the partions on the drive. and i did the whole thing again but this time deleted all partions then formatted the only one remaining (which you cannot delete). (Unknown to me it had a ssd in it) now the laptop runs very slow and like sh*t. and now i cant play games and it gets VERY hot. Its a hgst/hitachi ssd. Now i need to know what to do to repair/fix it. ANY HELP APPRECIATED.

 

[Colif]

so laptop has two drives in it? an ssd and the new drive you put in? I expect the ssd is only about 32gb in size?

can you show me a screen shot of the disk management screen?

what I suspect you need to do is download Intel rapid storage technology drivers off the laptop makers web site for board and then set the ssd up as a cache drive. What PC had before was a raid setup where the ssd acted as fast storage for files while the hdd acted as bulk storage

What did you do with ssd? it needs to be blank to do its job.

have a look here: http://www.pcworld.com/article/248828/how_to_setup_intel_smart_response_ssd_caching_technology.html

 

[Joshy21]

No its only got one drive which is a SSD 500gb. Its a fairly new laptop made in 2014. But will look into what you said.

 

[Colif]

I misread your statement. Don't worry about caching as its not applicable to ssd

When you clean installed win 10 it would have formatted drive itself, so what did you format drive as the second time around?

 

[Joshy21]

Because i only deleted all the partions so me thinking that i didnt do a full clean install I should do it again.. for the best results but i wish i had left it. Also i cant access hgst downloads section ( to find tools to help me) because i cant register my product on their site which is stupid.
https://www.mediafire.com/?bp9yja4b1ztqlba

 

[Colif]

Seems I was right, you do have a 8gb cache drive but as your main drive is an SSD already, it won't help at all. you can continue to ignore it. Cache drives were made to make HDD faster, but as you have a SSD now, the extra one won't help you at all, and if anything, would slow you down.

Is the laptop hitachi as its likely your slowness is due to drivers for laptop. What model do you have?

 

[Joshy21]

No laptop is a HP
HP ENVY Ultrabook 6-1111tx

well in Optimize Drives it says recovery and not be rude but why is there only 1 drive showing in computer/devices and drives
http://www.mediafire.com/file/zslel1c1jjb5be3/Untitled_2.png

it was running fine until I formatted using windows media creation tool so pissed off haha. and I just noticed now as I'm typing it stops responding when I type and takes a while for me to be able to type again.

 

[Colif]

The 2nd drive doesn't show in windows as if you look at your first image it shows as unallocated. All blank drives are unallocated until formatted.

Drive 0 = 500GB ssd - this is your boot drive
Drive 1 = 8gb ssd - this is current unallocated and invisible to windows 10

Win 10 would be able to see it if you formatted the drive, its currently blank as that is the format it needed to be in to run intel rapid storage technology.

If you want win 10 to use drive, follow this: http://www.techverse.net/partition-format-new-hard-drive-windows-10/

go here and download the HP Support assistant, it should get the drivers you need for you: http://www8.hp.com/us/en/campaigns/hpsupportassistant/hpsupport.html?jumpid=va_r602_ww/en/any/pps/pl_ot_ob_ds_pd/supportassistant_cc/dt

 

[Joshy21]

Its strange because when i formatted using windows creation tool it didnt show there to be formatted there was only 1 drive there? So is it like a virtual thing mabey? And should i allocate it and see if proplem is solved? *Is the 8gb drive software related?*

 

[Joshy21]

Rapid start technology cant interfere with the pc after its starts though can it? I tried disableing it in device manager and ill see what happens

 

[Colif]

Intel Smart Response and Rapid Start Technology with 500 GB SATA (5400 rpm) and a 32GB mSATA.

http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0002-2138778/computers-and-it-equipment/hp-envy-ultrabook-6-1111tx-15-6-hd-c-i5-3317u-8gb-500gb-amd-rad-hd-7670m

seems the 8gb drive (if it is only 8gb) is an msata drive. I can't find anything apart from a 32gb model though. Curious what shows in your bios.

 

[Joshy21]

If you look at that link up the top it says 8gb/500gb -where the product is detailed. then down the bottom it says 500gb and 32gb.. that is what is strange haha

 

[Joshy21]

Because its 2nd hand old mate before me might of put a ssd in it

 

[Colif]

You don't need rapid start on an ssd based system, smart response is just as useless now. They are both superseded by windows features and SSD speed. They were good for making hdd seem faster than they actually are.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/283706-32-intel-rapid-start-smart-response-smart-connect

 

[Colif]

8gb/500gb = 8gb ram, 500gb hdd

the second line is spelling out the storage inside, the 32gb isn't added on as its not available to user directly, its used by system to make it faster.

Its possible your friend put a smaller msata in before he sold it. 32gb ssd aren't worth it anymore so its not a great loss.

 

[Joshy21]

Does formatting the laptop change any bios settings from what they were? E.g. will it reset them?

 

[Colif]

lots of laptops before ssd became big enough to be boot drives by themselves, put 32gb ssd into pc and made them act as cache drives to make the super slow 5400rpm hdd look better than they actually are. Enough people don't know they are there to mean I know they are as I have answered questions about them before.

anyway, is your laptop any better now you have downloaded drivers? I don't think the 8gb drive is causing any slow down as its currently not even being used.

 

[Colif]

Does formatting the laptop change any bios settings from what they were? E.g. will it reset them?

No

 

[Joshy21]

All right im going to do this to my ssd:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2088341/how-to-restore-your-ssd-to-peak-performance.html

And see if that solves it if it dosnt ill let you know. Wont be for a while though cause i dont have internet atm. Thanks for all your help.
And one other thing does deleting all partions and not formating the drive delete every thing on the drive? If not what would be kept?

 

[Colif]

have you actually looked at the 500gb ssd, as looking at your disk management screen again, the HGST drive is the 500gb hdd still - its code matches this: http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/hdd.php?hdd=HGST+HTS545050A

the samsung drive i assume is the ssd

Your PC is super slow as its not using the ssd as a cache anymore. I can't find any record of a samsung 8gb msata, it seems too small to even bother making.

This explains the reason why you only see 8gb size on a 32gb ssd:

It is bound up with the main hard drive to create an "accelerator" so eveything works faster. See if you have a program called Intel Rapid Start Technology on your computer and go into its console. You will see the mSSD drive there and see that a 24 gig part of it is used to "accelerate".

http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Hardware-and-Upgrade-Questions/How-come-32gb-msata-can-only-see-8GB/td-p/3152987

seems you need to read this after all: http://www.pcworld.com/article/248828/how_to_setup_intel_smart_response_ssd_caching_technology.html

 

[Colif]

this should help: http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c03466110

its manual to set up and re enable rst on HP laptops. I don't think you need to change windows, just run the software. likely to need to clear the old cache since you reinstalled win 10.

 

[Joshy21]

Alright well i might have formatted the 8gb ssd in media creation tool and that might be why its playing up? Anyway to fix it/set it up if thats whats haapend? I BET THIS IS IT cause i formatted all the portions then deleted them.

 

[Colif]

i think its just playing up now cause you haven't re enabled the raid in intel rapid storage technology. cache = raid 0

The 8gb would show in there anyway, as explained in the HP link about why its only showing that much now.

if you had formatted the msata it would be showing as 32gb, as it still shows as 8gb I think its still as it was before the win 10 install.

Win 10 probably ignored it when you formatted it all cause its too small to really install win 10 on (though I know of people running win 10 on 32gb drives, that is only out of lack of any other choices)

fix is to read the HP link in my last post, it should be all you need to do.

 

[Joshy21]

If it was a hdd in my laptop then windows disk defrag/optimization showing the hdd as a ssd would also be linked to the same problem. Id say its part of the same issue and if i fix one it'll fix the other

 

[Joshy21]

Though the only way to see what i got is to open it up and i dont know how