Help plz- E 8400 or Q 8400 ?

[55Range]

Hello ppl- Need some help plz.
I would like to upgrade my cpu , keeping socket 775, therefore core 2 duo or core 2 quad.
I also do gaming- Main thing here
Which is the best :

Core 2 quad Q8400 or core 2 duo E8400 ?
On overall ? i will also overclock.



i Actually have an E4600 core 2 duo - oc at 3.2 ghz
Hyper 212 + cooler
9600 Gt
4 gb ram
Msi p45 neo3fr Board

 

[Maziar]

you are welcome i hope you enjoy it

 

[55Range]

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[55Range]

Hey Maziar-
I just installed the Q 8400 , and did some benchmarks , there is a ton of difference of course btw my last processor-
Will do the windows rating- and will post some benchmarks soon

 

[Maziar]

Cool can't wait for benchies 😀

 

[55Range]

Yeah will send soon-
Actually oc it to 3.6 ghz, was amazingly fast !
I got a real boost in GTA 4- [only one i tried for now]
Even at stock 2.6 ghz its good in gta 4..

Am having a littler confusion about temperatures, everest and hw monitor show me different temperatures !
I dunno what is real ?
DO u know of any good temp monitoring program ?

 

[Maziar]

What temps are you getting ? other good apps would be Coretemp

 

[55Range]

Well OC to 3.0 ghz i get around low 50c. [Full load] This is good !
OC to 3.6 ghz worked but overheats, will have to try it with again and monitor temp with different progs
Btw, the processor is very fast, really no need to oc to over 3.0 ghz-

And how do i attach a benchmark pic? - i dunno .

 

[Maziar]

Click on add a reply,then upload your picture in a site and then click on the "image" icon in the reply page and you can add your link there and it will attach it.
Or simply upload the pic in a site and post its direct link here.

 

[55Range]

Hey, will do that soon, Kind of busy now. Cheers-

 

[55Range]

Btw, thxs for everything-

 

[Maziar]

You are welcome,that's why we are here

 

[55Range]

hmm, i got an issue : Btw, its not abt Q8400 , i really like it, really fast with oc .

The thing is that i get different fps readings from ingame benchmarks in GTA,
I always Get 40 fps in the lost and damned
and only 31 fps in the ballad of gay tony.
They use same egines, and of course i use all exact settings in both games, without anything interrupting the game.

How is that possible that exact same games have such a fps difference ? [i found that from benchmarks done several times , after reboots and everything but they stay the same different fps]

 

[Maziar]

GTA IV isn't very well optimized,so expect getting strange FPS in it.

 

[55Range]

yeah, i know , but fps different in same game but , different subgames..
41 fps in one , but 31 fps in another one- with exact same settings..
Well forget it.. lol -

Anyways, my cpu [at 3.2 ghz] [not cores] is 42 c on idle and up to 60 i thinks in full load.. For cores its 40 to 60 c..
I know 60 isnt high but 42 on idle only for cpu isnt it hish for a quad core with cpu cooler ?

I cant let it on 3.6 ghz which is stable but temps reach 80 c !!!
Even with the cpu cooler-
Am starting to think the cpu cooler has not been well placed -
What do you think mate ?

 

[Maziar]

What is your room temperature?

 

[55Range]

Room temp is 26 - 28..
Btw, OCed to 3.3 right now, did stability testing [everest 27 mins approx] Btw sure its stable, already did 36 w/o problem.

Well :
Cpu 41 - 59
Cores 39 - 59
Full load, that is very acceptable right ?
I wanted it at 3.6 , but it will reach around 70 , dont want that - Might be unsafe right ?

 

[Maziar]

They look fine(considering that you have OC'd it)
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/1270585.html

 

[55Range]

Alrite..
I will stay with the 3.3 ghz then.
Afterwards, will remove the cooler and re apply thermal paste..
btw, the voltage is set to auto in bios, i can see in everest its btw 1.33 to 1.38 full load,
average 1.35 .
Is that fine ?

 

[Maziar]

Intel recommends this voltages
0.85V – 1.3625V
http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLGT6
So as long as you stay in that range,you'll be fine

 

[55Range]

Ok, anyways, rarely use the cpu to 100 %
Will stay with the voltage , its only at full load anyway that its 1.38
Or do should i do something abt it ?
Maziar, you are helping me a lot, i hope i am not bothering you with my posts !

 

[Maziar]

If you want to go with a voltage which is higher than what Intel recommends then consider getting a good CPU cooler,otherwise its recommended to stay within that voltage range.
And i am not bothered at all, we are here to help

 

[55Range]

Thats v nice to hear.
U are eager to help. really thxs-

Btw, i just made some arrangements in bios, i put voltage to 1.3 and i also oc to 3.4 ghz, performing everest stability test and from the lower voltage i can really see a drop in temps !!
Thats very nice, i hope it will be stable !
Now my temps are 38 idle to 55 load. !!
at 3.4 ghz on 1.31 voltage !
Nice !
Thats a huge difference from before, was 44 idle to 68 load !! [1.38 voltage]
Such a huge difference..
Btw, do you think it will be stable ?

 

[Maziar]

wow that's a great achievement,lower temps are always welcome 😀
As for stability,Everest stability test is good,other good apps are Prime95 and OCCT(OCCT produces more heat than those other 2)

 

[55Range]

Hey Maziar,
I also tried at 3.6 ghz same 1.31 voltage- Its great, temps btw 39 to 58 . load
Anyways under 60 and am happy with it !!
The voltage thing did very well for me.. Cool !

 

[Maziar]

Those temps look great for 3.6Ghz