[SOLVED] Help with my first build

[Tsjavo]

Hey guys,

I’m new to game pc industry and need some help with my first build my budget is around €1000 or 1100 usd. Only going to use it for playing games like apex legends, destiny, warframe etc. I already got some advice and picked some parts: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vsP7D2
Could you guys take a look and advice me on this? Thanks

 

[vapour]

which country is it?
I will get 3600 + 5700 if possible. 580 is not gonna cut it if you want to go for 100+ FPS.

 

[PC Tailor]

Looks pretty good actually.
However I would definitely up your RAM to 3200 speeds. Ryzen loves faster RAM and 3200 seems to be the sweet spot for price to performance.

How much are you paying for the motherboard?
Also buy Microsoft through another third party, you can pick up legal keys for pennies nowadays. save yourself the extra 70$

 

[logainofhades]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (€204.90 @ Caseking)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard (€126.15 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (€79.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (€101.89 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 8 GB PULSE Video Card (€399.04 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: Corsair Vengeance 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (€74.90 @ Corsair DE)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit
Total: €986.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-27 17:35 CEST+0200

 

[Tsjavo]

which country is it?
I will get 3600 + 5700 if possible. 580 is not gonna cut it if you want to go for 100+ FPS.

I’m from the netherlands, I know the 5700 is the better choice but it will cost me about €200 more. I only played console before this so I’m not used to much, the big question is will the 580 be good enough for this midrange build?

 

[Finstar]

I’m from the netherlands, I know the 5700 is the better choice but it will cost me about €200 more. I only played console before this so I’m not used to much, the big question is will the 580 be good enough for this midrange build?

If you're fine with less fps and lower graphical settings then yes.
You get what you pay for.

 

[logainofhades]

You can run Win10 unlicensed, until you can afford a legit key, just as an FYI

 

[jeremyj_83]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (€208.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND)
Motherboard: ASRock B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard (€87.00 @ Megekko)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (€92.90 @ Megekko)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (€104.90 @ Megekko)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 8 GB MECH OC Video Card (€379.00 @ CD-ROM-LAND)
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case (€54.85 @ Megekko)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€110.90 @ CD-ROM-LAND)
Total: €1038.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-27 18:16 CEST+0200

 

[Tsjavo]

Looks pretty good actually.
However I would definitely up your RAM to 3200 speeds. Ryzen loves faster RAM and 3200 seems to be the sweet spot for price to performance.

How much are you paying for the motherboard?
Also buy Microsoft through another third party, you can pick up legal keys for pennies nowadays. save yourself the extra 70$

A friend (definitly not an expert) told me my mobo doesn’t support 3200, could you check if this is true? The msi b450 tomahawk max goes for €109

 

[PC Tailor]

A friend (definitly not an expert) told me my mobo doesn’t support 3200, could you check if this is true?

This is incorrect:

1866/ 2133/ 2400/ 2667Mhz (by JEDEC)
For AMD Ryzen Gen3 (R5/R7/R9)
2667/2800/2933/3000/3066/3200/3466/3600/3733/3866/4000/4133 by A-XMP OC mode
For AMD Other CPU
2667/2800/2933/3000/3066/3200/3466 by A-XMP OC mode

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-TOMAHAWK-MAX/Specification

Also if it didn't, the option would be to buy a MB that could, and get 3200, not the other way around! Ryzen loves faster speed.

 

[vapour]

My take with 1000 euros:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (€208.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B450M-A Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€73.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (€89.00 @ Megekko)
Storage: Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€70.95 @ Megekko)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 8 GB MECH OC Video Card (€379.00 @ CD-ROM-LAND)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (€39.99 @ Paradigit)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€94.90 @ CD-ROM-LAND)
Total: €956.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-27 18:54 CEST+0200

 

[Tsjavo]

This is incorrect:

1866/ 2133/ 2400/ 2667Mhz (by JEDEC)
For AMD Ryzen Gen3 (R5/R7/R9)
2667/2800/2933/3000/3066/3200/3466/3600/3733/3866/4000/4133 by A-XMP OC mode
For AMD Other CPU
2667/2800/2933/3000/3066/3200/3466 by A-XMP OC mode

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-TOMAHAWK-MAX/Specification

Also if it didn't, the option would be to buy a MB that could, and get 3200, not the other way around! Ryzen loves faster speed.

Ok thanks a lot

 

[Tsjavo]

which country is it?
I will get 3600 + 5700 if possible. 580 is not gonna cut it if you want to go for 100+ FPS.

What if i take the middle road and go for a 1660 ti is that worth it?

 

[jeremyj_83]

What if i take the middle road and go for a 1660 ti is that worth it?

The difference in cost is close to the difference in performance with the 1660Ti being 30% cheaper but also ~30% slower at 2560x1440 resolution.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1660-ti-turing,6002-3.html

AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT and Radeon RX 5700 Review: New Prices Keep Navi In The Game

AMD's Radeon RX 5700 XT and Radeon RX 5700 deliver better performance than Nvidia's GeForce RTX 2060 and 2060 Super, but without real-time ray tracing support.

www.tomshardware.com

You will have to look at each game benchmarked and find the corresponding one on the other benchmark. The biggest issue with the 1660Ti is the 6GB of RAM on it. At higher resolutions and in newer AAA titles that is going to be a limiting issue sooner rather than later.

 

[vapour]

What if i take the middle road and go for a 1660 ti is that worth it?

It depends on your gaming needs.

 

[rhysiam]

I don't think anyone has asked yet: what display are you playing on? Is it just 1080p, 60hz? If so, I question the merits of a higher end GPU. The RX 580 you picked can max out Destiny 2, Apex Legends and Warframe at 1080P/60.

If you find yourself playing a lot and willing to invest in a better experience down the road, you could get a GPU upgrade and a 1440p ultrawide or something similar. The 3600 & 16GB RAM gives you a really solid platform.

 

[Tsjavo]

I don't think anyone has asked yet: what display are you playing on? Is it just 1080p, 60hz? If so, I question the merits of a higher end GPU. The RX 580 you picked can max out Destiny 2, Apex Legends and Warframe at 1080P/60.

If you find yourself playing a lot and willing to invest in a better experience down the road, you could get a GPU upgrade and a 1440p ultrawide or something similar. The 3600 & 16GB RAM gives you a really solid platform.

Don’t have a monitor yet, but I got my eye on the MSI Optix MAG271CR

 

[jeremyj_83]

Since that is a 144Hz monitor, you will want at a minimum a 1660Ti to push the higher FPS.

 

[Tsjavo]

Since that is a 144Hz monitor, you will want at a minimum a 1660Ti to push the higher FPS.

Ok thanks for the help