Here Is What You Need To Run Windows 10

[PaulBags]

Forced uefi? Goodbye to activation loaders.

 

[FALC0N]

This is completely untrue. This was just bad journalism that everyone has picked up and run with. The presentation in question was targeted at hardware OEM's. They are required to ship windows 10 with secure boot on, but they were with windows 8 as well. So that hasn't changed. It will still run without it.

 

[FALC0N]

Forced uefi? Goodbye to activation loaders.

Your a little behind the curve there. Loaders haven't worked since SLP 3.0. That was 3 years ago.

 

[Larry Litmanen]

Anybody know anything about Windows 10 boot times? It's suppose to be upgraded or faster than Windows 8.1.

What about driver support for the new NVMe SSD's and M.2's? What is the cap from Windows 10 on the first generation of NVMe SSD's - 20 Gbps, 32 Gbps 40 Gbps or what?

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/280390-32-sata-satae/page-2

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1843654

Bud i read you comment and i decided to finally time my Windows 10 Tech Preview boot time. It takes 22 seconds to reach password request and PC is fully functional the second the password in. There's ZERO wait time once you are in.

My system is
Intel i7-4970,
MSI Gaming 5 (mobo),
850 Pro 256 GBs SSD
EVGA GTX 960


And this is just the technical preview. I am being dead serious, MS finally did something right.

 

[scout_03]

That is a strange free update microsoft software would not cost anything but you will have to buy a new board with UEFI to be able to run windows 10 , Who will made money from that update board maker do microsoft have a secret venture with them ?

 

[Suiton20]

Wait. What if your graphics card doesn't support uefi. I have a hd 6870 and I can't use secure boot on windows 8.1

 

[FALC0N]

UEFI is NOT Required people!!!!! Read something more than the top line!

 

[back_by_demand]

Just to clear this up, as it seems to be the ONLY talking point. Regardless of what the article states I am running the latest build of Win10 on a 7 year old motherboard with a traditional BIOS and it works. I think that the description of what UEFI is has not been clarified for the mindless rabid fanbois. AND even if the final build does alter to require an actual UEFI (which it won't) then $60 to $70 should sort you out. Yes there are more expensive and feature rich boards available but an equivalent board to your high-end one from 10 years ago would be seriously low-end today. If you are REALLY out of date and want a free update from Win7 to Win10 and think that it's an imposition to update your hardware at least once per decade then you seriously need to reassess your priorities.

 

[vistisen]

For those who are confuse about the UEFI requirements...

You need the UEFI for "Secure Boot".. (This was stated clearly in the article above... )

May be you the one who needs read the article.. read all of this bit,...
"The only change between Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 for system requirements on the desktop is the mandate of UEFI v2.3.1. Windows 8.1 was required to have UEFI v2.3.1 for Secure Boot, but this was an optional feature. In Windows 10 this is no longer optional."
Any questions?
Any Questions?

All I can say is it runs fine on a 8 year old HP NW9440 laptop with dual core CPU anf 4Gb Ram the only 'modern' bit is the 64GB SSD in the machine. Feels as fast as the three year Lenovo I7 workstation i have at work

 

[f688xt6]

It's like they're intentionally daring people to switch to Linux. I'm no fan of it, but Linux is seeming more reasonable with every press release.

 

[hst101rox]

"If your smartphone only has 4 GB of storage, then an SD card will be required to store additional updates."
So what happens if you remove said SD card while the phone is booted up? Potentially critical files will be located there such as currently running dlls and executables. Unless, the SD card is just for the equivalent of *systemroot*\windows\Software Distribution.

 

[Kintaroo]

Lol, who cares of boot time when we have ssd. Even vista starts fast enough...

 

[USAFRet]

UEFI is required for Secure Boot. It is NOT required to install and run the system.

Boot?
2009 era Toshiba L305 laptop. 2.2Ghz Celeron, 5400RPM HDD, 2GB RAM.
Under 30 seconds from power button to desktop.

 

[synphul]

What is the big stink over boot times? Is it because so many people are running this on a laptop or something where it's being turned on every time they use the system or am I one of the oddballs who doesn't turn my pc on/off multiple times a day? People seem really jazzed about boot times and I guess I just don't get it. It's such a minor portion of being on a pc or seems like it anyway.

I like linux well enough, it's been the same old story for the past decade though. Troubled by driver updates and support - often times a version or two behind win based systems. It's gotten better but until it has full driver support for various things it's difficult to jump ship from windows completely.

 

[CaedenV]

To those wondering about the UEFI requirement: This is for manufacturers only, not for home builders. Win10 works just fine on systems with a normal BIOS based motherboard, but things like SecureBoot and some of the quick-boot features will not work on these systems (cry me a river).
But for those of you looking to purchase a PC manufacturing company, the UEFI requirement will in fact be required... though if building a new computer then chances are the only option you have is UEFI as even most 'BIOS' based systems are UEFI underneath.

 

[yoji]

UEFI is required for Secure Boot. It is NOT required to install and run the system.

Boot?
2009 era Toshiba L305 laptop. 2.2Ghz Celeron, 5400RPM HDD, 2GB RAM.
Under 30 seconds from power button to desktop.

OK - you seem to know your onions.. but that article says

"The only change between Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 for system requirements on the desktop is the mandate of UEFI v2.3.1. Windows 8.1 was required to have UEFI v2.3.1 for Secure Boot, but this was an optional feature. In Windows 10 this is no longer optional."

So we know the Win 10 tech preview works.. but the question re the production release version
Cheers

 

[USAFRet]

UEFI is required for Secure Boot. It is NOT required to install and run the system.

Boot?
2009 era Toshiba L305 laptop. 2.2Ghz Celeron, 5400RPM HDD, 2GB RAM.
Under 30 seconds from power button to desktop.

OK - you seem to know your onions.. but that article says

"The only change between Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 for system requirements on the desktop is the mandate of UEFI v2.3.1. Windows 8.1 was required to have UEFI v2.3.1 for Secure Boot, but this was an optional feature. In Windows 10 this is no longer optional."

So we know the Win 10 tech preview works.. but the question re the production release version
Cheers

They can't make that big of a change between Tech Preview and final release. That's sort of the whole point of the tech preview.
"What does this do on random hardware?"

 

[yoji]

They can't make that big of a change between Tech Preview and final release. That's sort of the whole point of the tech preview.
"What does this do on random hardware?"

I hope your right.. but I fear you are wrong.
They are making it more restrictive.. so having tested on all.. its low risk for them... they know what they are cutting out.
Lets see.. but you don't have anything concrete to refute the article? unless the article author is very tardy.. do we have any evidence that it is in error?

Cheers

 

[kaphonius]

I think an editorial clarification is in order.

 

[USAFRet]

They can't make that big of a change between Tech Preview and final release. That's sort of the whole point of the tech preview.
"What does this do on random hardware?"

I hope your right.. but I fear you are wrong.
They are making it more restrictive.. so having tested on all.. its low risk for them... they know what they are cutting out.
Lets see.. but you don't have anything concrete to refute the article? unless the article author is very tardy.. do we have any evidence that it is in error?

Cheers

The speech and presentation was specifically to OEM distributors. Those are required to do the Secure Boot thing, so that statement makes sense. For them.

Specific evidence? No. All I/we have to go on is what comes out of the MS mouthpiece. They seem to be changing daily. We will only know after it is actually released.
But I expect to be running Win 10 on my 6 year old Toshiba laptop this time next year. As well as other PC's in the house.

 

[FALC0N]

Lets see.. but you don't have anything concrete to refute the article? unless the article author is very tardy.. do we have any evidence that it is in error?

Other way around. The article doesn't have any evidence to support their silly conclusion. I have seen the PowerPoint presentation he refers to, and it was all about the OEM's. OEM's are required to ship with UEFI and secure boot enabled, but that the case with windows 8. At no point did Microsoft say UEFI was required to run it. It was just bad journalism.

 

[demonhorde665]

what with the "OMFG!!! I need UEFI bios !!!" If your computer was built in the last 3 years more than likely you have a UEFI bios. If not then maybe you should upgrade UEFI bios it's far superior to a DOS based bios. It's better protected from viruses, if it does get a virus it's easier to fix. it's easier to flash update the bios with less chance of user error. last but not least the interface is amazingly better than dos (that being it can take mouse input (even USB mouse input) and it's easier to navigate a UEFI bios and do things like overclock and change voltages. It's just a better bios. I'm amazed dos bios lasted as long as it did before UEFI or something similar was made.

 

[somebodyspecial]

What is the big stink over boot times? Is it because so many people are running this on a laptop or something where it's being turned on every time they use the system or am I one of the oddballs who doesn't turn my pc on/off multiple times a day? People seem really jazzed about boot times and I guess I just don't get it. It's such a minor portion of being on a pc or seems like it anyway.

I like linux well enough, it's been the same old story for the past decade though. Troubled by driver updates and support - often times a version or two behind win based systems. It's gotten better but until it has full driver support for various things it's difficult to jump ship from windows completely.

ROFL. I boot once a month usually, and only if I'm totally annoyed by patch Tuesday and don't delay installing them (family members badgering me to give them the go ahead so I finally do it on my units, then give a thumbs up...LOL). Win7 64 is just that good, and I'm too busy to boot most days it seems when patch day hits. You sir, are not alone 😉 I'll even say I've went MONTHS. Most of the time when I go down it's only due to plugging/unplugging so many drives, I think windows ends up confused so I reboot...LOL. Between flash drives, and ~18 externals there's lots of crap I put windows through at times. IF you're protected (AV+threatfire+firewall, behind a router or two also depending on the room), patch Tuesday means nothing. My PC sleeps, never really goes off.

Boot times mean absolutely NOTHING to me (since win9x versions pretty much). SSD=who cares, and today's OS doesn't need reboots like win9x.

 

[USAFRet]

What is the big stink over boot times? Is it because so many people are running this on a laptop or something where it's being turned on every time they use the system or am I one of the oddballs who doesn't turn my pc on/off multiple times a day? People seem really jazzed about boot times and I guess I just don't get it. It's such a minor portion of being on a pc or seems like it anyway.

I like linux well enough, it's been the same old story for the past decade though. Troubled by driver updates and support - often times a version or two behind win based systems. It's gotten better but until it has full driver support for various things it's difficult to jump ship from windows completely.

ROFL. I boot once a month usually, and only if I'm totally annoyed by patch Tuesday and don't delay installing them (family members badgering me to give them the go ahead so I finally do it on my units, then give a thumbs up...LOL). Win7 64 is just that good, and I'm too busy to boot most days it seems when patch day hits. You sir, are not alone 😉 I'll even say I've went MONTHS. Most of the time when I go down it's only due to plugging/unplugging so many drives, I think windows ends up confused so I reboot...LOL. Between flash drives, and ~18 externals there's lots of crap I put windows through at times. IF you're protected (AV+threatfire+firewall, behind a router or two also depending on the room), patch Tuesday means nothing. My PC sleeps, never really goes off.

Boot times mean absolutely NOTHING to me (since win9x versions pretty much). SSD=who cares, and today's OS doesn't need reboots like win9x.

My main PC, and the HTPC, and my wife's PC only get turned off for however long it takes to reboot after an upgrade. There is no 'daily off' business...
Boot time? Short, and don't really care.

 

[josejones]

There is no "big stink over boot times." Windows 8 made changes to the way Windows boots that can drastically reduce startup time. Microsoft claims that Windows 10 improved upon that so, I am curious about it.

Boot-up time may not be an issue for some but for many of us it is, especially if one does NOT have an SSD or when trouble-shooting or re-formating and many re-boots are necessary. A quick bootup can drastically reduce time for those who work on computers and "time is money."

If you enjoy 5 or 10 minute boot times then good for you.