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Most agree if by early you mean 3 months off a 20 year lifespan.
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I strongly dissagree. It's like 6 months off 15 year lifespan.
 
As far as Athlon temps, I actually hit 80c and never had a lock-up when I first built my PC. I kept increasing my FSB while using the retail HSF and one case fan! Like these guys say Athlon temps mean nada until it locks up. Also, different chips (two XP 1900's for example) might run at different temps on the same system, and might lock-up at different temps. Lots of variables. HOWEVER...

If you would like to lower temps just because you're bored and still are worried (plus it doesn't help when people post their XP's running at 40c with air cooling, yeah right!) take it from someone who's been there. With MBM 5.0 (thanks to PooBaa) I idled at 53c, and usually went up in the 60's when doing something intenstive. I didn't have my cables wrapped well, didn't have good caseflow, etc.

NOW...I use a Volcano 7+ HSF on medium setting, AC3, taped all cables and case holes, one intake fan (low, front) and two exhaust (all 80mm fans). What REALLY cooled me down is the blowhole cut I made to the top of the case (roof). My exhaust on the back of my case just couldn't keep up, and the blowhole exhaust gets rid of any trapped hot air up top (since heat rises). I used a Craftsman Rotary tool to cut (and it did take me 20 minutes and 5 disks).

Now I run a 150 FSB with a 12.5 multiplier on an XP 2000 and never go above 56c (but I also have an air conditioner..., so I have low ambients to start with). Now I'm much happier, feel better, and am able to get decent overclocks. Good Luck.


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I strongly dissagree. It's like 6 months off 15 year lifespan.

And why do you say that, do you have any 15 yearold cpus which ran hot and lost 6 months?

And even giving you the point(which I dont) if you have the same cpu in 15 years you deserve to have it fry(forced upgrade).

The point is life loss due to heat is not a consideration since whatever minor damage is done wont be apparent for another 15 years!

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if thats the case (sic) then u probably need slightly better case ventilation.
just a thought.


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how about...

When flames lick out from under the HSF and the aluminium of the HSF runs like butter :lol:

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Roflmao! or when the styrofoam that you put under your brothers mobo when you built it for him has melted and you can scramble eggs on the top its case because the heat sink "accidentaly" came off? and the "organic" packaging of the xp becomes creamated and flys through the exaust fans? huh what then? then is it too hot??

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sic ...

Wheres my mistake? I get the pun. :tongue:


Yeah I know, I can't be bothered with extra fans right now. Gone are the days where I'd duct cold air from the chimny duct to drive through the case, using pringle tubes might I add.

Right now I'll just gonna have to sort out the three loudest things in my comp. The GeForce fan. Maybe replace the card, but cards these days seem to have even louder fans. Then I'll get a quiet PSU. Any suggestions? And finally replace my two hdds with one 120GB Seagate (or is it IBM) drive that has ceramic bearing. Is that better than the normal bearing used? it was the quietest in a benchmark of some 12 drives or something.

Then my computer will become bearable. I'll actually be louder the computer! Woohoo! [spinning on the floor a la homer] Woooooot, woot woot woot, woooooot, woot woot woot!

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well, im not so worried about it all now, because i now have a 400watt power supply that has a fan at the bottom and this sucks hot air out of there and then out the back of the tower.. works too, there is a difference..
i do have a fan in the side of my case, which will put cold air into it.. which i think will help again.. im not sure how much but im sure it will be fine..

i dont personally use the volcano 7+ fan anymore because it blew up my motherboard and cpu, which i was none to happy about.. really annoyed me actually.. apparently it was a very bad design according to my mate who works in the local computer shop..
i have a full 6 bay tower, so air isnt really a problem, its just trying to get cold air in, rather than anything else..
i havent actually tried overclocking my xp, as i think its fast enough as it is, plus i get told that overclocking it doesnt really work that well as you dont get that much of a overclock, unlike a intel 4 1.8a... is it just the multiplier thats fixed (unless you unlock it) or what? how do you overclock your xp????
i have three xp systems, two are using kg7s, and mine is using a kr7.. any pointers please?
well, i will post some results when i get my side of my case back.. should be interesting!!

if all else fails... kick it and if it goes wrong, say it wasnt you...
 
I have a V7+ on my Athlon 1.3 (oced from 1.13) and it sits at 40c on LOW. This is according to my cunning Hardcano III 😉 The best accessory for the V7+ :)
 
i oc my 1.5 to 1.65, looks like it can't go any higher on this ecs board.. anyways, by adding another fan to the standard p4 heatsink, temp was able to drop from around 45C to 35C.

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for a quiet PSU u cant go past the enermax whispers. 430W should be buckets. loots of nice overhead

if you want a quiet drive, i reccomend either the seagate with fluid bearings or the 1200JB.
(normal bearings, but still decent, and very quiet seeks)

my geforce2pro fan was noisy too. got dust in the bearings. i ripped off the entire HSF unit and used arctic silver epoxy resin to perminantly glue on a rather big socket 370 cooler with a 50mm fan. excellent cooling, nice and quiet. (but it kinda takes up 2 PCI slots)
but thats no biggy as ive got 6.


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if you want a quiet drive, i reccomend either the seagate with fluid bearings or the 1200JB.
(normal bearings, but still decent, and very quiet seeks)

My motto is if you can hear the hdd you dont have enough cpu cooling hehe.

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I agree....Ive had my Seagate Baracudda IV 40 GB 7200RPM drive now since December 2001 and I still cant hear it seeking or doing ANY kind of disk access...i cant even tell that its on unless i put my ear right to it.. =)

Its a real cool running drive too! =)

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I´ve heard that both Seagate and Maxtor have fast harddrives with fluid bearings that are both very cheap and very silent. I have a Seagate myself, never really tried a Maxtor...
 
I have a A7V266-e with a 2000+ with a ThermalTake VOlcano 7 the blue one with the copper insert and the temp controlled fan. It runs at 55 Deg at 1600 Everything on max in q3 and at 54-55 in MOHAA at 1100x with everything on MAX. Ihave a intake fan PSU and side exhaust and a BLower Slot fan. The cpu fan is fairly ... loud You could say but it dosent bother me. fan was $40 CAN!I has a 1900+ running at 74 Deg for MONTHS n months until I Actually broke it... now that i know 50 is nnormal not 60-70 it runs so much faster I find it just cant be the 67 MHZ fast cpu.. make sure the HSF is installed right. the indent is where the place where it says Socket ..a?? the litttle lip there and try to use paste
if it matters I have 3 HDS all 7200 RPM 170GB total DVD,CD-R,Geforce 3 Ti200 and its a midtower..
<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by SkunkWorks1 on 07/26/02 09:56 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
I have Athlon XP 2100+ and A7V333.
My CPU got once to 83c but nothing happend, the game I were playing worked fine at this temperature.
I have Thermaltake VOLCANO 6cu but it can't cool my CPU.
When the air conditioner is working my IDLE temperature may lower to 64c (in the best case), but when it's off the IDLE temperature can easily reach 70c and more.
I think that there is not enough airflow in the case, my case (midi) is very hot when the CPU is loaded, especially the left side (when looking from the front of the case).

The overheating of the CPU didn't caused system instability.
(i leave in hot area and this fact makes the problem greater)

What can I do to cool my CPU?
(also, in what direction should work my 2 case's fans)
 
Its not that the harddrives are loud, but the noises accumulate. The Silent heatpipe cpu cooler lives up to its name. The two fans in the PSU are pretty quiet by them selves but when put in the psu box you get quite a bit of noise in the lower frequencies, mainly from the air passing through all the obstuction in the PSU.

The Geforce fan gives out a really loud high pitch sound. I suspect it is on its way out as the also give a high pitch vibration sound, kinda like its ossilating along its axis.

Now the hard drives emit noise on a different frequency and by themselves are really quiet. But you can really hear the added effect tot he overall noise. You can't hear the seeking sounds though.


Bad news. Anyone in london would have known its been a pretty hot day. My room, getting the full blown sun in the afternoon, gets really hot even with the windows open. My CPU was 77degrees and in the middle of a divx session win2k blue screened. So I just went out to the back garden to enjoy the sunlight and listen to my DAP jukebox :lol: . Then I cut off the air perforated fan placing areas in the front and rear of the case. Made a big whole on the side of the case, and added three fans. Its down to 46 degrees, but its loud!

I'll get those big slower fans. 120mm is it? They should be much quieter.



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well now thanks to a little time and money, i have my xp chip idling at about 40 degrees... sometimes a bit lower, thanks to a new power supply that has a fan on the bottem and that channels the hot air and takes it out the back.. and i have a case fan put on the side of my tower so i have cold air going in..
i have gone from 55 degrees idling, to sometimes under 40 degrees..
i dont think that is bad...
the fan is put by the graphics card so it cools that down too.. sort of half and half if you like..
sorted!!

if all else fails... kick it and if it goes wrong, say it wasnt you...
 
Temperatures in the 60 - 70C range are OK for an Asus A7V333. I have one with an XP2100+ and with the stock AMD heatsink and fan I got temperatures in the 70-80Cs. I was alarmed and bought an Alpha PAL 8045 heatsink, an 84cfm CPU fan, Arctic Silver III and 4 case fans. That dropped CPU temperatures 10C, to 60-70C. I expected a 20C drop, so I thought I had done something wrong in the installation of the heatsink and fan, but after asking in several forums, I found out that Asus A7V333 reads temperatures about 10C higher than other motherboards. Apparently this bug was fixed in the BIOS 1011, but I haven't had time to try it.
 

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