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More info?)
Thanks, Art... that's what I've got.
Been out of town for a week... but
needs to do a bkup. Will try it.
On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 10:02:16 -0400, "Art" <notaname@notanisp> wrote:
>In my experience, Ghost 2003 works just fine cloning your internal hard
>drive to an external USB hard drive. I've cloned to external USB hard drives
>dozens of times, using a variety of external USB hard drives without any
>problem whatsoever. As I indicated in my original posting, make sure you're
>using the latest version of Ghost 2003, i.e., Ghost 2003.793. Use Symantec's
>LiveUpdate feature to download the latest version.
>
>Art
>
>
>"not_over_the_hill" <watch_the_moneyNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:062lc053fdq04vavgmpticsijnsjsk81ol@4ax.com...
>> Been playing around with TrueImage and it seems OK.
>>
>> I used bothe TI and DriveImage and so far, I like
>> TrueImage a little better. Hard to know what
>> Symantec is going to do re: Ghost and DI.
>> Don't know which will survive, but I really
>> don't like the fact that it (Ghost) doesn't seem to work
>> well with ext. HD's. I know it's supposed to,
>> but I couldn't get Ghost 2003 to work.
>>
>> Could be me.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 23:55:05 GMT, "InfoQuest"
>> <InfoQuest@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Yes... we have been doing some extensive testing of True Image Please
>> >thread in microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics True Image 7.0 - hpgs2wns.dll
>> >Error/Virtual Drive/Restore Question. The title is a little misleading.
>> >
>> > It is a hard choice! Drive Image 7 appears to be having a number
>> >challenges. CNET approval is only 25% and the latest PC Magazine review
>> >only gave it 3 out of 5. Ghost 2003 has a CNET approval rating of 52%,
>but
>> >has moved past Drive Image in the latest PC Magazine review with a rating
>of
>> >4 out of 5. One concern in reading the reviews was the number of
>people
>> >having trouble getting it to work with externals. Acronis True Image
>has a
>> >CNET approval of 65% and was one of
>> >the only to receive CNET editors choice. The only negative we found at
>this
>> >point is that it does not check the disk while restoring the image The
>> >latest issue of PC Magazine rated it 5 out of 5 and gave it PC magazines
>> >editors choice. You can get a 15 day trial version.
>> >
>> >http://www.acronis.com/download/
>> >
>> >
>> >"not_over_the_hill" <watch_the_moneyNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >news:9qehc0tf96e985v1jhkr6c7mtp032stmt3@4ax.com...
>> >> On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 13:02:13 -0400, "Art" <notaname@notanisp> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >"Tim" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >news:1a3a901c44dfd$f56f4030$a001280a@phx.gbl...
>> >> >> I bought an external usb-firewire hard drive 120G.
>> >> >> I want to use it to back up my C drive.
>> >> >> What do I do now? I don't see a "back up your hard drive"
>> >> >> choice anywhere! I have XP Home.
>> >> >> Clueless as usual.
>> >> >
>> >> >Tim:
>> >> >
>> >> >You might consider using Symantec's Norton Ghost program (2003
>version)
>> >to
>> >> >clone your internal hard drive to your USB external hard drive.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >The advantage of this process is that for all practical purposes
>you're
>> >> >making an exact duplicate of your working internal drive. Everything
>is
>> >> >"backed up" - your operating system, registry, programs &
>applications,
>> >> >configuration settings, your data files - everything. Unlike virtually
>> >every
>> >> >other so-called "backup program" that merely backs up your data files,
>> >i.e.,
>> >> >the files you have created in your various programs.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >The cloning process is relatively simple. Other than the external hard
>> >drive
>> >> >you'll be cloning to, disconnect any other external storage device(s),
>> >e.g.,
>> >> >ZIP drive, flash drive, etc., from the computer and boot up with the
>> >Ghost
>> >> >floppy disk (see below instructions for preparing the Ghost floppy)
>and
>> >use
>> >> >the screen displays to select the source (internal hard drive) disk
>and
>> >the
>> >> >destination (external hard drive) disk.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >With a reasonably fast processor, your cloning speed (data transfer)
>> >should
>> >> >be about 400 to 500 MB/min. Should you be using a USB 1.0/1.1
>connection,
>> >> >your cloning speed will be about 40 to 50 MB/min.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Note that in some cases, connecting the USB external hard drive to a
>USB
>> >hub
>> >> >prevents the cloning process. In those situations, the external drive
>> >should
>> >> >bypass the hub and be directly connected to the computer's USB port.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Another major advantage of this cloning process is that you can also
>> >perform
>> >> >the cloning operation in reverse, i.e., from the external hard drive
>to
>> >the
>> >> >internal one, thus creating a bootable internal drive. Naturally in
>this
>> >> >situation during the cloning process the external hard drive becomes
>the
>> >> >source disk and the internal hard drive the destination disk. BTW, the
>> >> >cloned USB external hard drive will not be bootable - at least in my
>> >> >experience with XP. I have read many comments in the various
>newsgroups
>> >and
>> >> >websites to the effect that an external USB hard drive is bootable as
>> >long
>> >> >as it's supported by the motherboard's BIOS. But I've yet to achieve
>> >this.
>> >> >If anyone has successfully booted (in XP) with a USB external hard
>drive,
>> >I
>> >> >would be anxious to hear of their experience in this area.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >I prefer to carry out the cloning operation using a Ghost floppy disk,
>> >> >rather than using Ghost's Windows interface. I find this process
>simple,
>> >> >straightforward, and effective.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >PREPARING THE GHOST FLOPPY DISK
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >1. Insert a blank floppy disk. It need not be formatted.
>> >> >
>> >> >2. Access your Ghost program. Make sure you have the latest version
>> >2003.793
>> >> >(as of 6/04). Use Symantec's built-in LiveUpdate feature to install
>the
>> >> >latest version in the event you're using an earlier version.
>> >> >
>> >> >3. Click on Ghost Utilities and select Norton Ghost Boot Wizard.
>> >> >
>> >> >4. Select Standard Ghost Boot Disk. On the following dialog box
>(assuming
>> >> >you have USB 2.0 capability), select "USB 2.0 Support" and check
>"Assign
>> >DOS
>> >> >drive letters". Click Next.
>> >> >
>> >> >5. Select the "Use PC-DOS" option in the next dialog box.
>> >> >
>> >> >6. Complete the process following the screen prompts.
>> >> >
>> >> >7. Remove floppy and label accordingly.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >With the USB external hard drive connected, boot up with the Ghost
>floppy
>> >> >and perform the cloning operation. You should be able to easily
>perform
>> >this
>> >> >operation by stepping through Ghost's informative dialog boxes. Just
>keep
>> >in
>> >> >mind that the source disk is your internal hard drive and the
>destination
>> >> >disk is your USB external hard drive. Also remember to disconnect any
>> >other
>> >> >storage devices you may have connected to your computer (ZIP drives,
>> >> >flash/jump drives, etc.) before you begin the cloning operation.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Art
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I also have been reading about "TrueImage" and "DriveImage"
>> >> for backup. From what I can gather, they will also do a "mirror
>> >> image" backup, but do everthing in Windows.
>> >>
>> >> I do know that Ghost works because I have used it (from Dos)
>> >> In order to do the clone in XP, requires the computer to boot
>> >> from a floppy / or CD and execute in PC-dos.
>> >>
>> >> The advantage I see with "TrueImage" is that when creating
>> >> an "image" backup, you can back up a few days later and
>> >> do an incremental backup of only files that have changed or
>> >> are new.
>> >>
>> >> Anyone have any personal experience with either "driveImage"
>> >> or "TrueImage"???
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
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