How to Convince My Parents to Let Me Build a Gaming PC

Page 8 - Seeking answers? Join the Tom's Hardware community: where nearly two million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.
Toggle sidebar Toggle sidebar
A

AgentLOL

Reputable
Nov 16, 2014
229
0
4,690
I HAVE THIS QUESTIONS SOLVED, BUT I HAVE LEFT THIS THREAD OPEN IF ANYONE WANTS TO FREELY COMMENT OR TALK ABOUT SOMETHING :):):):):)



So, I'm 13, and its nearing my birthday. Right now I'm using a Mid-2012 Macbook Air to game, really only play Minecraft at 60FPS, and that's the only game cause' my parents think gaming is a huge time buster, leaving me with no console, except for the Wii with Mario games. That's my intro.

So, I first wanted to get a pre-built PC. Seeing how pricy they were, thought of building my own PC. Yearning to actually play other video games (my parents don't approve of violent video games sadly), I put together this really good PC for about $1,400, without peripherals. (Don't ask if they really have the money for that, cause my dad uses a giant iMac). So, I approach them ask my dad (he usually manages everything with electronics). He says that you will only save $50 by building, I won't let you build one, but rather purchase one, as it takes forever. They said that a $800 computer is good enough for school work. I explain that I want these components, and my dad realizes its for gaming.

So that pretty much ended the argument with a NO, and since then, been trying to convince him. I just don't know what's the right time to ask my dad. He owns a office and said that he would grab one from his office that's new, and left to go to the mall. Man, he just won't understand. While everyone else (my friends) sit back and play on their supercomputers and Xbox Ones, I get to sit here playing just Minecraft on my horrible laptop. With that being said, hopefully you read this all and give me a suggestion, and thanks for reading!

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/B4T9yc
 
Sort by date Sort by votes


He got the PC.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote


I do, it's just that the guy at Frys helped me get some of the parts, the reason why I'm not sure of exact. And I'm too lazy to check :). I know the PCI express 1x wifi had made my PC shut down after boot in Frys when they tested it, so they replaced that. I have it, just don't have a table to put it on :).

Oh, and dnloco, I kinda made a giant sentence saying that it's solved, and the title says it's solved. In our area, I'm not sure how hard jobs are getting, but there are lots of stores. If I needed to, I could go to downtown LA. Yes, I live near LA. And as for bitcoin and stuff like that, I wouldn't have the slightest mind of where someone would pay me $100! My birthday doesn't exactly count, being Christmas eve. And hey, I can ask a forum if I want too.

So yeah, I'm still typing on the MBA (no table yet), but with this new mouse. Anyone who doesn't game or does, if you use your PC a lot, I highly recommend a gaming mouse like Roccat Kone Pure (fits my hand perfectly). Gaming mouses are smooth, and much easier on your hand for clicking.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote


Because he suggested some of them, and I blindly said yes. I told ya everything that's in it, just the case I'm not sure of. The boxes are all the way in the garage, I'll look at them this afternoon. Like, I know what it is, just not exactly. Basically the case is what I'm not sure of what number it is.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote


Well, it does cost more, and they didn't have the 4690K in stock. I also wasn't going yolo and getting an i7 4690K, which is very much not needed. And why exactly did ccampy say that?
 
Upvote 0 Downvote


4690k Would have been great. But with as much as you put in, any overclocking CPU would've been a good idea, that way, when down the road, it starts to seem like it may be getting slow, you can boost the speed for free, instead of buying a new processor.

But do keep in mind, when you do end up upgrading, that there is a place on here dedicated for making trading, so you can save money on your upgrade, and save a member some cash; a win-win. :)
 
Upvote 0 Downvote


I think the best way to overlock a cpu without damaging it a lot is by tampering with the actual CPU itself, and puts so much strain that a stock cooler doesn't cut it. The software that overlocks strains your whole PC and ruins the life of the cpu. I'll wait and see how the machine goes, you can still overlock the cpu slightly without damaging it that much anyways...
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
I'm not sure waht you mean by " tampering with the actual CPU itself," I assume you mean BIOS, but I have done overclocking on a few different components, and I have so far, gotten a 35% overclock on each of my CPUs, reaching 4Ghz (from 3GHz) on my current, so I have some experience.

There have been reviews that show that the "software" is a wonderful starting point for overclocks, and in fact, do less damage, in most cases, than manual testing. Manual testing has traditionally been hours or days of stress testing, but the "software" can get an adequate job done in under an hour.

All you have to do, to be safe, is do a little research into what the limits of your CPU is, and make sure the software tells Bios's firmware not to go over them in the utility the board works with. Here is a video that could help explain that: http://youtu.be/BoaAT5TkXc4.

And, just a note: overclocking with Base clock, as opposed to multipliers, can cause instability with every single part of your system, and not just your CPU, so please be aware that if you try to push this, that you can erase your data.

Lastly, as far as the heatsink, and temperatures go: you can upgrade those whenever you want, so getting a overclocking CPU now, and leaving it at stock, for now, until you do, would not be a waste.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote


Nice to know, I'll get a CPU with unlocked multiplier the next time I get one. The thing is, you really don't need to overlock, and I doubt a stock cooler can handle it anyways. Overlocking I think is really only necessary for the GPU mainly, unless your system overall is slowing down or bottlenecking something (which I don't think it will, thinking that this is a small level down from a devil's canyon cpu). When I mean will, I mean 3-4 years. I actually don't know how to access the BIOS on my PC cause I never actually built it. Though does it pop up once you boot it for the first time?

PS: You think I can run Ultra games @60FPS on a 55" TV @1080p display? Just askin, wanna know the limits :)

PPS: Isn't overclocking items other than the GPU really more of a hobby?
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
Stock cooler can handle a little, but that wasn't really the point.
Yes, it will show up.. sorta, but I'm sure you'll easily find the correct way to start tweaking it.

GTX 970, 1080p, 60 FPS? Of course! Can even do 30fps on 4K. http://youtu.be/6y_GEvObFRQ
By the way, screen size is irrelevant to performance, only resolution counts!

No, not really. I mean, yours probably won't hold back your GPU for a while, but mine absolutely needed the extra speed.
Your milage may vary, depending on games, but overclocking your CPU can give you higher FPS, lower latency (make it feel smoother), and let you run things in the background. http://youtu.be/jC00UM_gmYc

In Borlderands 2, with a 3770k, you can expect significant gains with an overclocked CPU.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote


Of course, you mean for most games.
Otherwise, it can make a marked difference, especially in non-gaming applications. :)
 
Upvote 0 Downvote


30FPS on low-medium settings, right? I highly doubt that running Crysis 3 Ultra settings @ 30FPS. I would sacrifice quality for frames, and don't have the money for a 4k monitor anyway. Nvidia has a technology that somewhat can imitate 4k on 1080p monitors.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote


Not suggesting, merely stating. I think 4K isn't that amazing, others disagree. Though, if you check the link in the decription, Battlefield 4 was. while not at ultra settings, was at high, with the rest being high or ultra.

Eh, it's just display scaling, nothing special. Also, you need a monitor, cable, and GPU that can support it; my 1080p screen can:"only" super sample to a little above 3K
 
Upvote 0 Downvote


The GPUs supported are the ones above the 6xx series if I'm correct. That's is, Nvidias scaling, i don't think AMD has one.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
Actually, my GTX 570, of the 500 series can support it, and could support it before they brought out "Dynamic Super Resolution."
Any Nvidia GPU can support a custom resolution in the nVidia control panel. http://youtu.be/HlERjmkBoHg

AMD can support it too, albeit a little harder to implement, along with game video recording, "Game DVR," as they put it.
And as RazerZ has said, their new "Omega" drivers include AMD VSR, that should perfectly copy nVidia's DSR.

Both of these are just SSAA. (Super-Sampling Anti-Aliasing)

 
Upvote 0 Downvote


Care to share the awesome specs you got so others in your predicament in future can also get it?
 
Upvote 0 Downvote


"I can even run Advanced Warfare " jesus. lol What are your specs?
 
Upvote 0 Downvote


Nice! But you can play advanced warfare perfectly with my PC too, especially now that I got a GTX 660... and 16GB RAM 😀
I've still spent under $600 on my PC, and I'm trading my old 570 for a few headsets. 😉

4GHz e5450, 16GB RAM at 1800MHz, with a GTX 660 that won't be stock clock for even a whole year now that I've got it,
MY PC doesn't even officially support over 8GB RAM!
 
Upvote 0 Downvote


How hard it is? I went through honors magnet program and it was nothing. If you are complaining about middle school wait till you get to high school and college. Anyways, I built my pc in 9th grade which was 4 years ago. I saved money. It costed about 600 dollars, and it still works perfectly to this day and runs all games fine. Don't know why you need 1400. I just helped 2 friends build theres under 900. You don't need 1400. You should be thankful they are offering a 800 hundred dollars to you. Realize money doesn't grow on trees. I waited patiently and saved up money for about 6-7 months.
In that build you have you have an extreme GPU which isn't even needed for Minecraft, I have a gtx 550 and Minecraft runs fine even with shaders. Get rid of windows 8 that is a horrible OS and just go with win 7, you don't need a liquid cpu cooler unless you are really interested in overclocking your CPU, which you shouldn't need to since it should run Minecraft and other games just fine. An aftermarket fan will do, but you don't need it right away, it can wait.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote


This is what he listed:
Motherboard: Gigabyte X97 Durable (Not sure which durable one)
GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970
PSU: Antec 550W
CPU: i5 4690 (Guy told me overlocking is complicated for CPU and not really needed)
RAM: 2x4 8GB RAM (Not sure of brand)
Storage: Samsung 250GB SSD (With Far Cry 4) and 1 TB HDD (Not sure what brand)
CPU Cooler: Stock cooler (Guy told me that is good enough if you're not overlocking, I was a little skeptical)
Case: Antec (Don't know which one, maybe 4500?)
Click to expand...
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
You must log in or register to reply here.

TRENDING THREADS

Latest posts

Moderators online

Share this page

COMPANY
RESOURCES
FOLLOW
Top Bottom