How to record with less lag

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Hi I am looking to start recording and im using obs. I want to know how to get good quality in game while maintaining good fps. For example I play at 60 fps in bf4 but while recording it drops to 25. I also own fraps and am willing to switch to that if it will help. I need advice on settings based on my specs. (750ti, G3220, 8gb ram) Thanks :)
 
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Update:
I reread and I guess FRAPS is just for showing frame rate. That should have almost no impact on performance.

If you drop so low in OBS I'm guessing that's because you chose Intel Quicksync (unless there's a software encoding method?). Anyway, try selecting the NVENC encoder from the settings and see how that goes.

I'd also try using NVidia Shadowplay as well since I know that works well though you really should get the same minimal drop at similar settings if using OBS + NVENC.
Well a Intel G3220 cpu is a low end range of Intel cpu`s.
Your problem is, or will be down to how many cpu cores it has, and what we call on die cache of the cpu and how many levels of cache support a G3220 cpu has compared to an I5 or I7 Intel based cpu set up.
The ability to multi task or how many cores or threads a cpu has.

That will be the cause when using a G3220 cpu, sorry to say.
Even if they are a hell of a good cpu chip for over clocking ect, cpu speed is only a small factor in why frame rates drop when playing a game and doing a in game video capture of play. Using Fraps ect. Lower video encoding quality will have to be used if so.



 
BF4 wants 4 Cores.. you have 2 and your Recording I would expect a G3220 would drop, that is a bit much for it. Another question are you Recording to USB3 Flash Drive or a secondary drive hopefully not the same drive everything is running off of.
 
You need high/decent gaming specs to record video games. Believe me I tried with my old computer and failed until I got this one.

The best option for you is to either upgrade or get a capture card. Capture cards help because they have a build in processor to do the recording off the PC. But upgrading would also help you get more fps whilst recording.

For now check through the settings and turn them down quite low and see if it helps, also try to close down any background applications apart from your antivirus of course.

Hope this helps :)
 
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1) NVidia Shadowplay, or
2) OBS (using the NVidia NVENC hardware encoder)

I use a GTX680 but I've tested using Shadowplay and find the quality almost IDENTICAL unless I'm really, really picky. It's also very smooth and my game performance never dropped by more than 5% (tested with VSYNC OFF).

The NVENC encoder is a hardware solution on your GTX750Ti which samples the GPU output then streams that to your hard drive. When you use FRAPS that's a software solution using the CPU so frame rates drop a lot depending on how good the CPU is.
 
Update:
I reread and I guess FRAPS is just for showing frame rate. That should have almost no impact on performance.

If you drop so low in OBS I'm guessing that's because you chose Intel Quicksync (unless there's a software encoding method?). Anyway, try selecting the NVENC encoder from the settings and see how that goes.

I'd also try using NVidia Shadowplay as well since I know that works well though you really should get the same minimal drop at similar settings if using OBS + NVENC.
 
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Thanks to everyone that answered. Unfortunately my motherboard doesn't support oc so im gonna have to wait until I get paid. Anyone know where I can get the cheapest cpus?
 


You can start with pcpartpicker which links a few stores.

I'd get the highest frequency 4th gen quad-core you can afford such as an i5-4690. The "TURBO" value is what you go by:
http://ark.intel.com/products/80810/Intel-Core-i5-4690-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz

An i5-4690K would be pointless if the motherboard does not support overclocking.

Also, I don't think the G3220 is overclockable anyway. The G3258 is, but I don't think the G3220 was even if the motherboard allowed it.

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Not sure if you tried SHADOWPLAY so I'm curious to see what you think of it. It sure works perfectly for me, I have recorded my desktop with videos and stuff at 2560x1440 60FPS and the text was sharp and the motion smooth.
 

Yea my current motherboard (H81m-K) does not allow OC apparently. So Im just gonna have to buy a new processor?
 


Asus H81M-K allows overclocking of a G3258 which isn't a bad chip for under $70. A I3 or I5 will do you fine even without the ability to overclock.

G3258 Overclocked to 4.2 Ghz $65
i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor with Hyper threading $110
i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Withough HT $176

All three of these should give you with Fraps over 45 FPS at any setting, the G3258 may stutter a bit at Ultra 1080p and recording.
 
New processor?

Nobody said you "have" to buy a new processor.

*It's still not clear on whether you are happy with your current FPS in games and just want less frame rate drop when recording or exactly WHY you're thinking about upgrading.

I keep recommending NVidia Shadowplay for recording so maybe you try that if you have not and report on how that works for you.

As for FRAPS I thought you'd suggested you didn't record with that now but tried OBS so it's a bit confusing now...

*as for getting over 45FPS with Ultra whilst recording BF4 on a G3258/GTX750Ti I find that pretty unlikely:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/02/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-750-ti-review/5

How is that going to happen when this benchmark says you get 28FPS average with a much better CPU while not even recording?
 


Argue with this
Intel Pentium G3258 (Overclocked to 4.3 GHz stable)
EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW Edition
BF4 Shanghai 64 players
31-58 FPS Average 45 FPS Notice I said Average not Minimum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3Wm4fXrm7o
How many more of these do you want? I can show you 10 or more with similar results, your review is way off.

His G3220 would dip down into the 20's in BF4 Ultra while recording because of the lack of Overclocking but in Medium settings he should be able to maintain at least 30fps. Frankly for heavily threaded games you need a Overclocked G3258 or a I3 to sustain and record at a Higher Average.

Dropping Shadowplay only gives you 1-5 FPS in any title, most average 1-2 fps. As far as Recording I use to use Dxtory or Action! both have a good amount of options and impact FPS far less than just about anything out. Fraps is probably one of the worst for eating CPU and GPU usage, avoid that if your using less than a I3.