[SOLVED] How to resolve GPU fan only reaching 50%?
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This is my pc, it's actually in my sig as well. Well I suppose that 50% fan speed maximum is an issue because I'm not hardware failure safe anymore if this is how my gpu & driver is going to continue to operate whilst I game, I much like to keep my gpu in tip top shape for the foreseeable future, I got really lucky when I found and bought this gpu and would not be good at all if I where to loose it due to simple error in the OS or driver.
Do you think you can help me sort this out?
Coolermaster Gamer Case.
Intel i5 10600K 4.8GHz. Intel LGA 1200 CPU Cooler. Gigabyte B460M D3H. 24GB 2133 MHz. Asus ROG AMD RX Vega 64 GPU.
Antec HCG Extreme 1000 Watt Gold PSU. Samsung 860 EVO 500GB, Samsung 980 Pro 1TB, Western Digital Blue 2TB SN550.
2x Seagate 2TB 7200rpm Barracuda, 1x Seagate 10TB 7200rpm. LG DVD Rewritable Drive. Microsoft VHD Blue Ray Image Drive. Intel Ethernet 1Gbps. D-Link 300Mbps Usb WiFi. Microsoft Usb Keyboard. XGR Usb Led Gaming Mouse. Logitech 30 Watt RMS Stereo Speakers. Supersonic 450 Watt RMS AMP & 5.1 Speakers. LG 24inch 1080p 144Hz Monitor (capable of 4K @ 120Hz). Microsoft Windows 10 & 11 Home 64bit Usb Install media and activation.
No problems otherwise, everything is smooth as butter, just noticed that for the last few months since it was very hot here in the summer my gpu would never ever let the fans go beyond 50% (2000rpms out of a possible 4000rpms)
Sure I can set it to manual and reach those rpms, (and keeping the temps into the save zone to avoid hardware failures) but why isn't this happening automatically anymore like it was before and is there something I can do about that? [Now I have even done a fresh install and factory reset with no luck to improve said fan issue.
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What temperatures are the system and components hitting?
How are those temperatures being reported? Likewise the fans and respective fan RPMs?
What is the current fan configuration? If possible take a couple of photographs and post here via imgur (www.imgur.com)
Mark up or otherwise explain airflow directions.
Someone might spot something amiss.
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It is one thing to run hot and the fans cannot go beyond 50%.
It is another thing if the temperartures are in the proper ranges and the fans only need to run at 50% to keep the system and components cool.
Noted the 1,000 watt PSU. Seems to be a lot of wattage but your component list is a hefty load. (Note: I have sig's "off" almost all of the time.)
Use three or four of the calculators in the following link to get a concensus on the power demands of your build.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-psus,4229.html
May not be related to the fan speeds but you certainly need to ensure that the PSU is up to the task. Especially at peak power demands.
How are those temperatures being reported? Likewise the fans and respective fan RPMs?
What is the current fan configuration? If possible take a couple of photographs and post here via imgur (www.imgur.com)
Mark up or otherwise explain airflow directions.
Someone might spot something amiss.
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It is one thing to run hot and the fans cannot go beyond 50%.
It is another thing if the temperartures are in the proper ranges and the fans only need to run at 50% to keep the system and components cool.
Noted the 1,000 watt PSU. Seems to be a lot of wattage but your component list is a hefty load. (Note: I have sig's "off" almost all of the time.)
Use three or four of the calculators in the following link to get a concensus on the power demands of your build.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-psus,4229.html
May not be related to the fan speeds but you certainly need to ensure that the PSU is up to the task. Especially at peak power demands.
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Thanks for your reply, I don't see this as such a big issue at this point most of the time gaming the temps stay well within fail save limits, even though the fans of the gpu's (when set to default setting in the AMD control panel) don't ever spin higher anymore, (but I might have an inclination that they still do, it just depends on which game I play, but I'm not sure of that unless I actively go and put this to the test again)
Your concern is noted on my PSU's capabilities, but I can assure you it's all good, I mined on this pc for months on end with both gpu's and the cpu running at full capacity 24/7, never had a hiccup, in that time the gpu with the current fan issue used to work well (summer or winter, pc case unchanged), it's only with recent drivers that I have noted the oddities in the fan curve if not manually applied and left on default. ( and I find it odd that one can't factory reset gpu's selection anymore with a new AMD driver installation, I'm sure many people would also find this odd)
Here is the tread that got me into this rig and build some time ago, unfortunately the link to the PSU seems to have been removed from tom's hardware:
[SOLVED] - High Power GPU and PSU. | Tom's Hardware Forum (tomshardware.com)
I look at my temps in the task manger of windows as well as the AMD control panel and the amd in game overlay and they all correspond.
The pc case hasn't changed in config as compared to when the gpu' fans would operate normally: open case with one intake fan at the front of the case.
I know the failsave temp is: 75c for my RX Vega 64 and this is what it has always maintained automatically before, now it's reaching 80c, even if it's very cold ambient or with both gpu's running at full speed tested ( note: the second gpu's is not present in this rig anymore, so that can be ruled out as a possible cause) the second gpu would stay on it's failsave temp of 65c under load.
If you had to ask me I think the issue is driver or OS related. (might be, but what can I do about that?) that is the right question I suppose.
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"but I can assure you it's all good, I mined on this pc for months on end with both gpu's and the cpu running at full capacity 24/7, never had a hiccup, in that time the gpu with the current fan issue used to work well (summer or winter, pc case unchanged), it's only with recent drivers that I have noted the oddities in the fan curve if not manually applied and left on default "
Perhaps the past mining history is starting to show some consequences. Mining likely accelerated the EOL for some components and the results are now showing up even if no longer mining per se.
Agree with the preceding post. Discover if you can or cannot control the fans via AfterBurner or some other applicable utility.
Increasing temperatures without the necessary cooling fan speeds or controls may end badly.
Perhaps the past mining history is starting to show some consequences. Mining likely accelerated the EOL for some components and the results are now showing up even if no longer mining per se.
Agree with the preceding post. Discover if you can or cannot control the fans via AfterBurner or some other applicable utility.
Increasing temperatures without the necessary cooling fan speeds or controls may end badly.
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Thats what I thought as well. thanks for noting that, it's sure is at the top of my mind, running this pc rig.
Don't believe it's mining history related, these are top notch spec hardware, with mining, even if I turn that on again now, temps are in failsafe zone 24/7, it's when games are played that temps seem to vary a bit, and the fans don't spin at the required rpm's.
I rather not control the fans manually, because noted with many previous gpu's as such then the automatic fan curve is disturbed.
I think the algorithm, if or if it works with something like that or some code perhaps then, it can't determine if the hotter or cooler ambient temp fluctuates rapidly of sorts or it is programmed too not cause too much fan noise, if it where to spin up past 50% when the gpu's passes 75c.
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Here is some pic's of my pc, sorry for the bad photography, my camera's light won't stay on so I had to use a lantern, anyway maybe with these somebody can spot something that I'm missing, besides the little dust.
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Not sure about the air flows within the case.
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As I see things that is more than a "little dust".
Just as a matter of general maIntenance: power down, unplug, open the case.
Important parts being "power down" and "unplug".
Clean out dust and debris.
Verify by sight and feel that all connectors, cards, RAM, jumpers, and case connections are all fully and firmly in place.
Again, if the temperatures are within spec, the GPU fan running at 50 % is somewhat moot.
50% may be all that is needed to cool the build.
Clean out dust and debris - % may drop even more....
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As I see things that is more than a "little dust".
Just as a matter of general maIntenance: power down, unplug, open the case.
Important parts being "power down" and "unplug".
Clean out dust and debris.
Verify by sight and feel that all connectors, cards, RAM, jumpers, and case connections are all fully and firmly in place.
Again, if the temperatures are within spec, the GPU fan running at 50 % is somewhat moot.
50% may be all that is needed to cool the build.
Clean out dust and debris - % may drop even more....
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Seems when it's cold ambient there no issue, But I've seen the fan issue when it's hot ambient, here my AMD control panel reading:
View: https://imgur.com/r2sAUKx
Here you can see there nothing wrong beside the fan at full load not going up, but I think what I really need to show is when pc gets wrong rpm's, but I don't have the right ambient to show that.
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Fans are maxed out during mining to cool the junction. Higher VRAM clock = better hashrate.
The chip staying cool is collateral. AMD chips under 90 degrees C aren't usually a reason to start a 50 percent+ wind.
The chip staying cool is collateral. AMD chips under 90 degrees C aren't usually a reason to start a 50 percent+ wind.
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What do you mean, I've never opened the gpu bios nor have I ever updated that, I't would indeed seem logical that if I had, then this could be a reason why my fan curve is disrupted, besides that my motherboard bios doesn't show anything related to my gpu.
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When this gpu was new, it would regularly automatically allow it's fans at any given rpm's to stay under 75c, now on hot days it's doesn't do that anymore!
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She might be depressed....
Anyway, if you didn't change the temperature curve, someone else has been playing with your toy. Like people, GPUs don't change. When to start a fan, how much power it gets, when to stop, when to shut down, .... is written in its BIOS. Looking in the BIOS and seeing what's there is a bit more elegant and safe than tweaking voltages and creating loads, to see if anything happens.
Get the Vega64 running on virgin AMD drivers and keep it away from Windows. Maybe she'll start acting like herself again.
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Someone else playing with my toy, I doubt that, it's more like the weather has a far greater influence in hotter ambient than the what the card was designed for, hence the question still remains: what can be done about that?
Do I really want to open the gpu's bios and have a look at what's going, potentially make things worse? Ok I won't make things worse because when I thinker with such things I'm usually very careful, for now I guese that I'm going to continue to monitor the situation and not worry too much about it, but it sure was interesting talking about this, even if what inspires me is reading my own words.
The objective I was trying to reach remains that I want the gpu to perform weather it being hot or cold weather, without stepping away from the default automatic fan curve and as such not utilizing any third-party app to remedy the issue manually!
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Changing the BIOS, I wouldn't recommend it.
I just figured it might be nice to know when it would start cooling or shut itself down or how much power it should get,...
But even then, there's dust caking and isolating components, sensors getting worse, fluids drying out, ... causing more crashes, causing parts getting worse, causing damage, causing heat, and so on.
If only remediation would have some form of agency or expression...
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Well since after some time now, I'll just be keeping an eye one the temps when there is some hot weather here.
What I said above about expecting hardware failure, I doubt that is going to be an issue, so far no crashes or anything that would point to a pc in bad shape, so I'm happily gaming along.
Edit: can't seem to make this thread solved, the Tom's hardware forums update seems to have made how some things are displayed different.
What I said above about expecting hardware failure, I doubt that is going to be an issue, so far no crashes or anything that would point to a pc in bad shape, so I'm happily gaming along.
Edit: can't seem to make this thread solved, the Tom's hardware forums update seems to have made how some things are displayed different.
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Well, had a better look at my pc and then I also saw those debris mentioned that are in my case, wow some of my case's fitting came loose and I never noticed that when I last worked on my hardware config, glad some of you caught that in my pics above, funny how easily something like that can be overlooked.
Finally AMD has also informed us about this not being able to do a factory reset when installing drivers, I'd always thought that to be a great feature and use it every time I update or install their drivers to get my gpu back into 100% operation. Hopefully that will come back some time soon.
I see that my thread is finally marked as solved as such, but actually the issue with my gpu fans only reaching 50% rpm's is still present, actually when the ambient temp is normal here, I do like this because of less noise, but I still believe it's a driver related issue and hope that this will be addressed by AMD as well, before next summer.
Finally AMD has also informed us about this not being able to do a factory reset when installing drivers, I'd always thought that to be a great feature and use it every time I update or install their drivers to get my gpu back into 100% operation. Hopefully that will come back some time soon.
I see that my thread is finally marked as solved as such, but actually the issue with my gpu fans only reaching 50% rpm's is still present, actually when the ambient temp is normal here, I do like this because of less noise, but I still believe it's a driver related issue and hope that this will be addressed by AMD as well, before next summer.
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