HP Boasts About PC Assembly in the Good Ole USA

[Kami3k]

[citation][nom]samwelaye[/nom]You really think so? I'd give it 6 months and there would be an "electronic assemblers labor union" and they'd screw the companies over until they move back to China... No way any large amount of americans would work 60 hours/week of minimum wage.[/citation]

Because they wouldn't be able to live off it. Idiot.

 

[madjimms]

Because trading with other countries is sooooo bad!



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[madjimms]

I love how people want US workers to have jobs & don't give two shits about Chinese workers (who work hard as hell). You would rather an American get paid more & live lavishly than a Chinese worker? Because they don't need for or shelter right? They have SOOO many jobs right?...

 

[Guest]

Madjimms: I don't care about the Chinese, and they don't care about me. They can take care of themselves, and if they can't it's not my job to take care of them.

Maybe if they'd stop being such pussies and demand better conditions and more freedom, they wouldn't be in the position they're in. It's not my job to send them money or demand better conditions for them. How about they develop some personal responsibility for their own destiny? If the American colonists of the 1700s were still under British rule today and working in Foxconn factories at slave wages, we'd live in a very different world today.

 

[Guest]

Bring the TECH SUPPORT stateside, then we'll talk. That's way more valuable to me than where it was assembled.

 

[alextheblue]

[citation][nom]blurr91[/nom]But wouldn't it be better to NOT work and still get money?Minimum wage is roughly $8 per hour. Working 60 hours a week yields $480. Unemployment insurance in California is $475 per week.Let me see...work my ass off and get $480? Or just hang out, spend time with family and friends, sleep til noon, eat, watch TV, play some games, for $475?The choice is obvious.[/citation]
See, there shouldn't be such a choice. If we didn't make it so easy to freeload, we wouldn't have so many freeloaders. The problem is that it's hard to differentiate people who are lazy freeloaders (I knew a good few) from those who are legitimately having difficulty finding work. Unfortunetely, there's no easy fix and little incentive to work until you're pushed into it.

 

[Guest]

Actually, the deal here is that the assembly process has become so highly automated for some products that it's becoming cheaper to sub-contract a line run by a few people in the US than pay the cost for an army of workers over in Asia. Also note the pay/benefits demands of the army of workers over in Japan, Korea, China, etc have risen over time.

 

[kinggraves]

"Outsourcing is great because I can get things for cheaper than having to pay for silly american unions" What a simplistic way to view a far more complex situation.

First of all, they cannot jack up the prices suddenly just because assembly costs more. That is not how a market prices things. Assembly cost doesn't determine the market value. If PCs suddenly cost 4k people would not buy them, sales would be lost, and their profits would dwindle more than if they had sold the items at a loss. There would be an eventual price hike over time, but initially that cost would come off the companies profit margins, thus costing the overpaid CEOs their million dollar bonuses. The taxes that are now being paid at that point would be reinvested into helping to fix our massive national debt, unless YOU want to be the one that gets the tax hike for it. Someone has to pay their taxes. Is it going to be Tim Cook, or is it going to be You? While you're paying Tim's taxes, feel free to work without health insurance at whatever hours your employer wants you to for little to no money since you are against unions protecting worker rights.

But I said an eventual price hike, you want things to just keep getting cheaper? The problem with that is that when things get cheaper and the market value lessens, that becomes the standard. WalMart used outsourcing to provide cheaper goods, forcing every other retailer to lower their standards of quality just to compete. The minimum wage has become dependent on outsourced goods. They aren't going to pay you enough to buy farm raised beef at a premium when you can get genetically engineered mutant cow meat for cheaper.

By becoming a part of the world economy, we are rotting our economy. The world doesn't care if the US collapses, they just care about how much backlash they would get.

 

[spentshells]

[citation][nom]Madjimms[/nom]I love how people want US workers to have jobs & don't give two shits about Chinese workers (who work hard as hell). You would rather an American get paid more & live lavishly than a Chinese worker? Because they don't need for or shelter right? They have SOOO many jobs right?...[/citation]

so why not pay them a whole lot less right? That's fair for everyone

 

[antilycus]

Well that explains why their hard drives are crap (samsung) and why their quality is even worse than crap. Because American workers are needly, lazy and generally want a medal for everything they do. And yes I am from and live in the US of A. HP's quality is crap in the business market. They get business by offering lower prices at a price of standard quality degredation.

 

[antilycus]

sorry above commeht should've been SEAGATE as they make the crapiest (and cheapest) hard drives on the market.