Question HP EliteDesk 800 G1 SFF

[Lanczu]

is this connector compatible with motherboard and 450watts psu bronze 80?

I plan to installed a new gpu it's a r7 240 2gb and I don't know if this connector is compatible with my motherboard and gpu.

and the old psu which is 240 watts psu, is no compatible to my gpu so i decide a buy connector and new psu ATX 24pin

Paruht ATX Main 24 Pin Female to 6 Pin Male 6 Pin PCI-E PSU Power Adapter Supply Cable Connector for HP Elite

paruht.com

 

[Ralston18]

Why are you not using the cables that come with the new PSU?

Make, model, wattage (450 ? ) for new PSU?

You should use only the cables that come with the PSU.

 

[SkyNetRising]

is this connector compatible with motherboard and 450watts psu bronze 80?
I plan to installed a new gpu it's a r7 240 2gb and I don't know if this connector is compatible with my motherboard and gpu.
and the old psu which is 240 watts psu, is no compatible to my gpu so i decide a buy connector and new psu ATX 24pin

Motherboard uses non-standard psu connectors.
For connecting any standard ATX PSU you'll need a specific adapter.
Adapter in your link seems to be the correct one.

r7 240 is 30W card. It doesn't need any PCIE power connectors.
Your 240W PSU is perfectly fine there.

 

[Lanczu]

Why are you not using the cables that come with the new PSU?

Make, model, wattage (450 ? ) for new PSU?

You should use only the cables that come with the PSU.

yes, bro 450 watts this is my cheap buy psu for 11$ https://easypc.com.ph/products/inplay-gs450p-450-watts-80-power-supply-bronze?variant=42048057868459


but my motherboard is cannot insert a new psu without a connector so i scared to insert a connector to my motherboard and i ask this site to sure it is compatible connector or not compatible

 

[Ralston18]

Update your post to include full system hardware specs and OS information.

Especially the motherboard.

Even if you could immediately connect that PSU to your motherboard I would be very wary of doing so,

The cable that you are considering appears to be proprietary to HP motherboards per the description in the link. Physically all may fit but if there is a mismatch in the pinouts then the motherboard or other components could be damaged.

Is it possible for you to take a couple of photographs showing the PSU, the connector, and the motherboard?

If so, do so, and post the photographs here via imgur (www.imgur.com).

 

[Lanczu]

Motherboard uses non-standard psu connectors.
For connecting any standard ATX PSU you'll need a specific adapter.
Adapter in your link seems to be the correct one.

r7 240 is 30W card. It doesn't need any PCIE power connectors.
Your 240W PSU is perfectly fine there.

yes but 240 watts psu is not perfectly fine since i connect a 240 watts psu and gpu and complete components of my pc and then i turn on my pc my display is off but it is still working my pc and then while it lasts my psu is overheating like super fast fan so i decide adding a 450 watts psu since i search my gpu it's needed a 400+ watts.

and still i asking connector atx psu to my motherboard HP EliteDesk is compatible?

 

[Lanczu]

Update your post to include full system hardware specs and OS information.

Especially the motherboard.

Even if you could immediately connect that PSU to your motherboard I would be very wary of doing so,

The cable that you are considering appears to be proprietary to HP motherboards per the description in the link. Physically all may fit but if there is a mismatch in the pinouts then the motherboard or other components could be damaged.

Is it possible for you to take a couple of photographs showing the PSU, the connector, and the motherboard?

If so, do so, and post the photographs here via imgur (www.imgur.com).

sure bro sorry for not detailing my question content here is the photograph

https://imgur.com/b5BGqvf

View: https://imgur.com/b5BGqvf


i still asking my components are compatible to my new psu 450 watts with ATX connector 24 pin with 6pin, i scared to take risk if overheating a connector while i playing games or something 24 hrs open my pc so i decide to ask this site thank you bro for replying to my post

i am filipino so I'm sorry if I'm wrong grammar thank you again

 

[Ralston18]

This GPU?

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-r7-240.c2463

The PSU wattage (450) may not be enough.

The GPU specs suggest a 200 Watt PSU but I would add that to the existing PSU (240 watts - correct) with the total being 440 watts. Round that up to at least 500 watts or even 550 watts.

My greater concern is the quality of the PSU and its connectors.

FYI:

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-psus,4229.html

Read the reviews and use two or three of the calculators to determine the wattage requirements of your system.

PSUs are critical and spending more for a quality PSU is strongly recommended.

 

[SkyNetRising]

The PSU wattage (450) may not be enough.
The GPU specs suggest a 200 Watt PSU but I would add that to the existing PSU (240 watts - correct) with the total being 440 watts. Round that up to at least 500 watts or even 550 watts.

r7 240 is 30W card.
Whole system HP EliteDesk 800 G1 SFF (4th gen Intel core i5/i7) with r7 240 will not use more than 160W-180W.

240W PSU is plenty.
Suggesting it needs 550W is ridiculous.

 

[Ralston18]

Fair point.

I simply do not use TDP.

Much simpler and straightforward to use the concededly higher "recommended" PSU wattage.

TDP sometimes being absent from specs etc..

And I do tend to round up and end up with a high wattage PSU being "needed".

Much higher at times....

Also for any component that provides a wattage range - I always use the high end wattage value.

Total the wattages using calculators and my own manual total. Average it out - tends to lower the PSU wattage at times.

Not sure when I evolved to doing all that - been awhile.

Like this old link from 2019.

https://www.howtogeek.com/438898/what-is-tdp-for-cpus-and-gpus/

And a bit newer:

https://www.windowscentral.com/what-tdp-and-why-should-you-care-about-it

I would apply the "Suggested" PSU table and not TDP. (TDP being more applicable for cooling requirements as I understand it all.)

Very much negates debate and concerns about peak demand wattage issues and puts the focus on getting a quality ( $ ) PSU even if the wattage is high.

Plus there is the added value of having room for growth or swapping the PSU into some other system.

In any case, I just simply accept that I may have too much wattage. AKA "No harm, no foul".

That is just me.

 

[Lanczu]

Fair point.

I simply do not use TDP.

Much simpler and straightforward to use the concededly higher "recommended" PSU wattage.

TDP sometimes being absent from specs etc..

And I do tend to round up and end up with a high wattage PSU being "needed".

Much higher at times....

Also for any component that provides a wattage range - I always use the high end wattage value.

Total the wattages using calculators and my own manual total. Average it out - tends to lower the PSU wattage at times.

Not sure when I evolved to doing all that - been awhile.

Like this old link from 2019.

https://www.howtogeek.com/438898/what-is-tdp-for-cpus-and-gpus/

And a bit newer:

https://www.windowscentral.com/what-tdp-and-why-should-you-care-about-it

I would apply the "Suggested" PSU table and not TDP. (TDP being more applicable for cooling requirements as I understand it all.)

Very much negates debate and concerns about peak demand wattage issues and puts the focus on getting a quality ( $ ) PSU even if the wattage is high.

Plus there is the added value of having room for growth or swapping the PSU into some other system.

In any case, I just simply accept that I may have too much wattage. AKA "No harm, no foul".

That is just me.

so even if i buy low profile or high profile gpu's, still need a high psu?

 

[beyondlogic]

so even if i buy low profile or high profile gpu's, still need a high psu?

Bare minimum would be a 1030 non overclocked card. On a 240w PSU most say 300w but most non overcooked 1030 barely draw 30 watts.

On a platform like that you'd be best to upgrade the whole thing do not buy oem hp etc if you intend to game etc .

Adapters and a new PSU could fry your system.

 

[Ralston18]

You need to buy a quality PSU.

The PSU wattage needs to be determined by the totaling up the wattge requirements of all system components.

Including the wattage requirement for whatever GPU is being considered.

My method results in a higher wattage value.

@SkyNetRising 's method results in a lower wattage value.

Use the calculators in the PSU review link. Do your own manual wattage tally.

Probably the average wattage will end up somewhere in between 240 and 550 watts. 300 certainly being one possible end result. (Noting @beyondlogic 's post and thoughts.)

That all said, I would still recommend just staying with the high 550 watts. Or maybe roll back just a bit to 500 watts.

Consider that that EliteDesk 800 may not last much longer.

Should that happen you will at least have a higher wattage (500 or better) quality PSU to salvage and reuse.

Especially if you do need to put together a new build or to upgrade some other existing build.

For the most part buying a high wattage quality PSU now will provide some measure of future proofing.

At higher cost.

You need to decide the trade-offs that you are willing to consider and make.