News Huawei is making its Ascend AI GPU software toolkit open-source to better compete against CUDA

[Admin]

Huawei is planning to open-source its Ascend AI GPU toolkit in efforts to accelerate development and compete with Nvidia's CUDA software ecosystem.

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[-Fran-]

Why is contributing to OpenCL so darn hard? (both rethoric and literal)

Just make OCL better as it was, and is, the open tool we should agree on improving for this.

Regards.

 

[bit_user]

I'm curious to know whether they followed AMD's play of trying to make a CUDA work-alike (i.e. HIP), or if they developed something completely from scratch (a bit more like what Intel tried with oneAPI).

 

[bit_user]

Just make OCL better as it was, and is, the open tool we should agree on improving for this.

Intel has been the lone stalwart really pushing to improve OpenCL. Their oneAPI is built on it.

Battlemage turns out some decent performance numbers, considering its hardware specs. These are some of the first compute benchmarks on it. I wonder how performance has matured.

https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-arc-b580-gpu-compute
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[thestryker]

Why is contributing to OpenCL so darn hard?

In this case it may be as simple as political. I certainly agree with you though!

 

[bit_user]

In this case it may be as simple as political. I certainly agree with you though!

Or maybe it's just a case of: "monkey see, monkey do". People see how successful Nvidia has been and are trying to follow their same playbook.

IMO, you'll never beat Nvidia at their own game. You need to do an end-run, like Cerebras did.

 

[zsydeepsky]

Why is contributing to OpenCL so darn hard? (both rethoric and literal)

Just make OCL better as it was, and is, the open tool we should agree on improving for this.

Regards.

OpenCL is a US entity.

IEEE is also a US entity. In 2019, in response to US sanctions, they banned Huawei, despite Huawei being their biggest contributor to patents and standards.

So it's reasonable that Huawei will not contribute to anything that's based in the US if they have a choice.

 

[bit_user]

OpenCL is a US entity.

Yes, I think Khronos is.

FWIW, if you avoid Khronos, then you also must avoid OpenGL and Vulkan.

 

[-Fran-]

OpenCL is a US entity.

IEEE is also a US entity. In 2019, in response to US sanctions, they banned Huawei, despite Huawei being their biggest contributor to patents and standards.

So it's reasonable that Huawei will not contribute to anything that's based in the US if they have a choice.

It's not just Huawei though.

Regards.