Question I feel like my high-end PC is under-performing ?

[CyBeRTeCk]

I feel like my PC is under-performing.

I bought all the parts close to 1 year ago, and I gave up searching for the problem as I never really found it.
I'm playing on 1080p and I'd like in the future to buy a new monitor, something like 360 Hz, 1080p or 1440p.

But I'm having lower performance compared to benchmarks I've seen on the internet.

Some examples :

• On CS:GO, getting 250-350fps, low settings
• On Overwatch, getting from 300 to 550 fps, whereas on benchmarks they are consistently at 600fps (max cap)
• On Valorant, getting 450 fps average on low 1080p but 99% lows up to 170 fps

It's decent yeah for average people, but it's way lower than people's benchmark, and imagine I want to go 1440 360 Hz, it will be nearly impossible, and I shoud be able with my config to do so.

I want the best out of my config.

I also work full time with my PC so i'd like not to do something too risky as I need it for the next day.

Here's my config :

1. Watercooling : NZXT Kraken X53 240mm
2. Power supply : Be quiet! 1000W Pure Power 11 FM 80 + Gold
3. RAM : Corsair Vengeance DDR5 32GB 5200MHz C40
4. Motherboard : Prime Z690-P
5. Case : NZXT H7
6. Graphic card : RTX 4080 16GB Gaming Trio

https://imgur.com/1VKUs6r

Some complementary info :

• This was my first PC build.
• In BIOS, for the CPU, "Performance Core Ratio" is Auto.
• I did not install the last version of the BIOS as I don't know if it will change something.
• I activated XMP.
• I did not let the AIO go 100 % all the time as it has a quite annoying high-pitched noise.
• Already talked about this on another website which is as they said kind of a "brother" site, talked a lot about airflow.
• Something I don't know if it has a big impact, but when I built my PC, I used the SSD NVME with the OS and stuff I had on my previous PC and directly put it on my new PC, I did reset it (I don't remember if I reinstalled Windows with it or just basic reset).
• I feel like the CPU is maybe the problem, the GPU is going fine, the CPU has a very volatile temperature.

 

[CyBeRTeCk]

If this can help : https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/63718309
Just did it.

 

[Phaaze88]

NZXT Kraken X53

Currently:
Kraken fans >>> radiator <<< case fans
If you have noise and temperature issues, that's why.

Instead:
radiator <<< Kraken fans [case fans moved to top of case as ^^^, assuming no other fans are up there]

 

[CyBeRTeCk]

I'm sorry the image I gave is an old one, I turned the AIO fans the other way around because the people on the other website told me to

Here's the actual layout as of now:

https://imgur.com/a/v2fcfu0

 

[Phaaze88]

I'm sorry the image I gave is an old one, I turned the AIO fans the other way around because the people on the other website told me to

Here's the actual version

https://imgur.com/a/v2fcfu0

Ok, but the case fan down there is now backwards. For reference:

 

[CyBeRTeCk]

Oh okay, thanks !
I turned it the other way around, the airflow should be better.

But is that the real performance problem here ?
Seems like a tiny improvement for the PC overall but even with testing, I do not see changes to the FPS

 

[Bob.B]

Oh okay, thanks !
I turned it the other way around, the airflow should be better.

But is that the real performance problem here ?
Seems like a tiny improvement for the PC overall but even with testing, I do not see changes to the FPS

Perhaps update the bios and also the chipset driver if it's old.

 

[Flayed]

Here's my config :

1. Watercooling : NZXT Kraken X53 240mm
2. Power supply : Be quiet! 1000W Pure Power 11 FM 80 + Gold
3. RAM : Corsair Vengeance DDR5 32GB 5200MHz C40
4. Motherboard : Prime Z690-P
5. Case : NZXT H7
6. Graphic card : RTX 4080 16GB Gaming Trio

https://imgur.com/1VKUs6r

I think you forgot to list the CPU you are using.

 

[Phaaze88]

I think you forgot to list the CPU you are using.

Click on the userbench link in their 2nd post.

Oh okay, thanks !
I turned it the other way around, the airflow should be better.

But is that the real performance problem here ?
Seems like a tiny improvement for the PC overall but even with testing, I do not see changes to the FPS

I don't see anything particularly bad in the UBM results that screams, 'I'm killing your fps'.

 

[CyBeRTeCk]

Perhaps update the bios and also the chipset driver if it's old.

Just did it and I feel like nothing changed :/

 

[CyBeRTeCk]

I think you forgot to list the CPU you are using.

Oh my bad, it's an i7-13700K

 

[CyBeRTeCk]

I don't see anything particularly bad in the UBM results that screams, 'I'm killing your fps'.

Yes but it's saying my CPU is performing way below expectations and GPU below expectations so I don't know how and why

 

[Bob.B]

Just did it and I feel like nothing changed :/

Reboot.
Wait a few mins.
Run ubm with the browser closed.
Post a link to the results page.

 

[CyBeRTeCk]

Here it is : https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/63724437

I don't know why the SSD test is incomplete, i tried twice but anyway

 

[Phaaze88]

Yes but it's saying my CPU is performing way below expectations and GPU below expectations so I don't know how and why

Gotta take UBM with some salt. There's no universal standard used in their testing, so your hardware is being compared to others in various conditions, whether said conditions are good or bad; overclocks, disabled turbos, (in)adequate cooling, programs running in the background, or even the bare minimum applications needed to run a PC, and so on.
If the score isn't too far from the average bench, well... can't say there's really anything wrong, per se.
Same thing happens with 3D Mark runs. Having no standard to compare to screws everyone, save for maybe the top scores.

Here it is : https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/63724437

I don't know why the SSD test is incomplete, i tried twice but anyway

Oh, that?
'sequential bench incomplete': The faster the drive is, the larger the temporary cache it's going to create during the test. If there isn't enough free space, it can't finish its part of the test.

'ram cached drive': This is a function used to speed up data retrieval and performance for frequently accessed data. The downside is the risk of data loss during a power outage. UBM by default disqualifies drives with this enabled.

UBM is dumb in that if any part doesn't finish its portion, the entire run gets marked as incomplete.

 

[CyBeRTeCk]

Gotta take UBM with some salt. There's no universal standard used in their testing, so your hardware is being compared to others in various conditions, whether said conditions are good or bad; overclocks, disabled turbos, (in)adequate cooling, programs running in the background, or even the bare minimum applications needed to run a PC, and so on.
If the score isn't too far from the average bench, well... can't say there's really anything wrong, per se.
Same thing happens with 3D Mark runs. Having no standard to compare to screws everyone, save for maybe the top scores.


Oh, that?
'sequential bench incomplete': The faster the drive is, the larger the temporary cache it's going to create during the test. If there isn't enough free space, it can't finish its part of the test.

'ram cached drive': This is a function used to speed up data retrieval and performance for frequently accessed data. The downside is the risk of data loss during a power outage. UBM by default disqualifies drives with this enabled.

UBM is dumb in that if any part doesn't finish its portion, the entire run gets marked as incomplete.

Oh okay I see why UBM does not seem to be the best, do you know any software I could use to benchmark with trustworthy results ?

 

[pete_101]

Oh okay I see why UBM does not seem to be the best, do you know any software I could use to benchmark with trustworthy results ?

I actually think UBM over reports how good your build it, I can hit 100% on both CPU and GPU with a little overclocking, here's my last run a few days ago https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/63409327

So to me, if it says your CPU is below average, then it really is below average and we need to work out why. The most obvious thing would be temperature, how hot is it running?

If it's not over heating, then look at settings, have you unknowingly enable power saver? (it's in control panel, power options).

 

[Hotrod2go]

3 things come to my mind after perusing this thread that will prevent overall system slowness...

1. Do a fresh install of windows & remove unwanted 3rd party apps. I'm not sure how "clean" the windows reset function is these days but I always do a clean install when upgrading motherboard regardless. & of course as has been mentioned above, update the bios - this can fix some performance strangleholds.

2. Look in the bios options for CPU performance & see if it has something like "Multicore enhancement" or whatever terminology ASUS use in their bios for socket 1700 to. I know on Gigabyte boards, at least with 11th gen, that was an option & it certainly helps when benchmarking or getting those extra FPS in your games. It took my i7-11700K base clock to 4.9GHz from stock 4.6GHz - just be sure your cooling is up to it.

3. Upgrade the RAM or venture into OC it. Running CL40 @ 5200 is somewhat rather lame these days with DDR5 performance. I'm not an expert on socket 1700 RAM OC, but with Zen 4, currently 6000 - 6200MT/S is the proverbial "sweet spot" & with lowest CL you can get stable. Pretty sure Raptor lake IMC can handle those kinds of speeds too.

Run your favourite benchmark(s) after doing this stuff & compare to before doing it. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

 

[green.masood]

Some times old drivers result in CPU malfunction.try that too.
I had this issue

 

[kerberos_20]

Yes but it's saying my CPU is performing way below expectations and GPU below expectations so I don't know how and why

that you can ignore, its performing below userbenchmark expectations because your memory score is low (high ram latency)
if you dont plan to manualy overclock/tweak timings on your ram (which can add some extra few fps), then just ignore it

for GPU, its probably running stock, not overclocked, its running within benchmarked results, which is in spec

userbenchmark is joke
here example of rtx 4080 from two random benchs

https://imgur.com/Wyw0IpH

View: https://imgur.com/Wyw0IpH


first got higher overall percentage, while 5 out of six tests are slower
so according to userbench, more fps on lightning = better overal score

 

[CyBeRTeCk]

So to me, if it says your CPU is below average, then it really is below average and we need to work out why. The most obvious thing would be temperature, how hot is it running?

If it's not over heating, then look at settings, have you unknowingly enable power saver? (it's in control panel, power options).

On idle, with almost nothing running :

• CPU : 38 °C
• GPU : 39 °C

Some test :

• OW
  • CPU : 65°C
  • CPU usage: 25%
  • GPU usage : 60%
  • GPU : 52°C
  • FPS : ~430 fps

It is on high performance in power options.

 

[CyBeRTeCk]

3 things come to my mind after perusing this thread that will prevent overall system slowness...

1. Do a fresh install of windows & remove unwanted 3rd party apps. I'm not sure how "clean" the windows reset function is these days but I always do a clean install when upgrading motherboard regardless. & of course as has been mentioned above, update the bios - this can fix some performance strangleholds.

2. Look in the bios options for CPU performance & see if it has something like "Multicore enhancement" or whatever terminology ASUS use in their bios for socket 1700 to. I know on Gigabyte boards, at least with 11th gen, that was an option & it certainly helps when benchmarking or getting those extra FPS in your games. It took my i7-11700K base clock to 4.9GHz from stock 4.6GHz - just be sure your cooling is up to it.

3. Upgrade the RAM or venture into OC it. Running CL40 @ 5200 is somewhat rather lame these days with DDR5 performance. I'm not an expert on socket 1700 RAM OC, but with Zen 4, currently 6000 - 6200MT/S is the proverbial "sweet spot" & with lowest CL you can get stable. Pretty sure Raptor lake IMC can handle those kinds of speeds too.

Run your favourite benchmark(s) after doing this stuff & compare to before doing it. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

1 : First of all I updated BIOS after someone told me to in this topic and I did not see changes.
As for the fresh install, are you sure it will make a difference ? I work with this PC everyday and I need to be sure because I don't want to reinstall everything if it doesn't make any difference

2 : I'm not sure it's a good idea because my CPU temps are quite high and very volatile, i'm scared it goes always higher than it should. For example as I said in the previous post, 65°C CPU on OW with just 25% usage, seems quite high to me, and with the UBM test, 92°C at peak.

3 : Oh really I thought it was a very good ram


I always thought people with my config have barely configured the PC and running those extra frames I don't have

 

[CyBeRTeCk]

Some times old drivers result in CPU malfunction.try that too.
I had this issue

I did not find drivers for the CPU 🤔

I found it for older CPUs but not for 13th gen

 

[CyBeRTeCk]

that you can ignore, its performing below userbenchmark expectations because your memory score is low (high ram latency)
if you dont plan to manualy overclock/tweak timings on your ram (which can add some extra few fps), then just ignore it

for GPU, its probably running stock, not overclocked, its running within benchmarked results, which is in spec

userbenchmark is joke
here example of rtx 4080 from two random benchs

https://imgur.com/Wyw0IpH

View: https://imgur.com/Wyw0IpH


first got higher overall percentage, while 5 out of six tests are slower
so according to userbench, more fps on lightning = better overal score

Okok so UBM is a pretty bad test to run as at stock clocks it will tell you your PC sucks

 

[green.masood]

I did not find drivers for the CPU 🤔

I found it for older CPUs but not for 13th gen

I meant system drivers.
Not only CPU .
GPU drivers impact spu function.believe me