I got a amd Phenom II would it be worth to upgrade

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I built a pc, and i bought a am3+ mobo with the bulldozer in mind. Thought about buying it when it came out. but is it a big improvement over my current cpu?
 
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Bulldozer release is a dream for servers and heavy multi-threaded application users. As for normal consumers who use PC's for gaming or business/school related use, a Phenom II is more than enough. You will not see any performance increase, and imo, be very disappointed in the money spent.
Bulldozer release is a dream for servers and heavy multi-threaded application users. As for normal consumers who use PC's for gaming or business/school related use, a Phenom II is more than enough. You will not see any performance increase, and imo, be very disappointed in the money spent.
 
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Your thinking of FM2 which is optimized for the fusion core trinity. It will probably be more like the move from AM2 to AM2+.

As for AM3+, expect that to be AMDs "high end" (if you can call it that) segment for some time
 
As most were saying it really depends on what you use your computer for. If you use modeling application or are consistently making home videos and such the 8000 series Bulldozer will likely show a good improvement over what you have now. The only other case where bulldozer might show improvements is if you are the type to run multiple programs that are ACTIVE at the same time (defragging while rendering a video and playing a videogame) otherwise you can sit happily and wait for either a newer faster Bulldozer or until Piledriver comes out next year and spend your money on an HD 7000 or GTX 600 series graphics card until that time.
 
I would not bother upgrading at this point.

I believe your best option is to wait for Piledriver which is coming out next year. I think it will be the last AM3+ before AMD ditches production of all CPUs in favor of concentrating on APUs. Server CPUs may be the exception though. However, since servers still need a graphics core of some sort to connect to a monitor to view processes, it's not completely out of the question that there could be server APUs.

For a real improvement right now, you would need to switch over to a Core i5-2500k or Core i7-2600k depending on what you do with your PC.
 
With your current PC set up, you would be better off investing in a decent aftermarket cooler ( CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus, ETC ETC) and upgrading your GPU to maybe a GTX560ti or even a 570 if you can stretch to it, as when you combine a decent OC (3.8 - 4.0ghz) of your 1100T with an upgraded GPU this will get you the best Gaming upgrade for your machine.
 
You would be better off with a single high powered card rather than 2 x lower powered cards in SLI or crossfire, remember all the issues inherent in dual card set ups such as stuttering. So put your 460 on ebay and put the proceeds towards a 570.
 


I think it was an improved model with the 6000 series graphics chip and support for DDR3 2133..... can't remember where I read it.
 



Oh well. that's okay. it's what I do. I come over here to lie to people. Trying to keep people informed with what knowledge I have with the hardware and gaming I have experience and literature I read has nothing to with my existence here.
 

hehe, im not saying that, just saying i had no luck finding anything, and i do apprieate your advice. i really do, thanks
 


No-one's calling you a liar Swifty. Based on the reactions to your statement though, no-one else has heard of this new AMD socket. Please let us know if you find the source of the info.

EDIT: Googling FM2 does point to that one as being the likely candidate.
 



I may have already done that if you read my second or third to last post. I may have mistaken the "upgraded" FM chip as something completely "new", but in the back of my mind I'm positive I read an article about a new upcoming socket. Don't know from where I read it though.
 
I tend to think AM3+ will stick around for some time, unless they fundamentally change the Bulldozer architecture. Having said that, the APU line seems to be doing very well financially, so AMD may well decide to focus on Socket FM-x to stay afloat.
 
That is very true. the APU chips for the FM-x socket have great value for lower power consumption and tighter budgets. Im not terribly familiar with them, but does anyone know if they are OC'able? if so, i wouldnt imagine getting anything else for tight budget gaming rigs, especially since you can CFX with a 6670 if you wanted.