Question I have input delay on my whole machine, even after i bought all new components except RAM

[thetopwolf53]

I had a perfectly good working gaming computer for about 3 years and I never had this issue, I played competitive games at a high level with no issues. One random day, either after a windows update or something my computer got input delay, not only in game but everywhere. My mouse and keyboard felt delayed, ever since then I've been trying to fix it and have tried all the basic and advanced fixes, after that didnt work I bought a new GPU, CPU, motherboard and PSU leaving the old ram in (32GB 3600Mhz). After this my computer still had the delay so I bought a new monitor (240hz 1ms AOC monitor). My pc still has the same delay. I tried swapping my mouse to the old one I had and i still have the delay, I've tried various windows installs however they dont fix the issue.

My specs are: RTX 4070Ti, i-5 14600KF, 32GB RAM (3600Mhz), PSU: Gigabyte P650G, 650W 80+ GOLD ATX (brand new), 1TB SATA NVME SSD 7GB read speeds, 2TB Hard Drive. My keyboard is the Steelseries Apex Pro, and the Logitech G Superlight mouse.

I dont know what the issue could be anymore.
All feedback is appreciated!

 

[Ralston18]

Update your post to include detailed hardware and OS information.

PSU: make, model, wattage, age, condition (original to build, new, used, refurbished)?

Disk drive(s): make, model, capacity, how full?

Attached peripherals?

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Use Task Manager, Resource Monitor, and Process Explorer (Microsoft, free) to observe system performance.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/process-explorer

Use all three tools but only one tool at a time.

You will need to keep the tool window open and viewable.

Then work and game as you normally do.

Look for what changes when there are input delays.

Watch carefully and then determine if you can make the input delays happen by some specific action(s) on your part.

 

[Misgar]

tried all the basic and advanced fixes

Did you try a fresh install of Windows on a brand new SSD to rule out a problem with the Operating System or the drive? A cheap 120GB SATA SSD would be fine.

leaving the old ram in (32GB 3600Mhz).

You've changed most things but not the RAM. Have you performed a full MemTest86 run to confirm the memory is still 100% good? Even one error means you need to investigate further.

I'd also try a different (cheap) wired keyboard and wired mouse, just in case the ones you're using are faulty.

 

[thetopwolf53]

Update your post to include detailed hardware and OS information.

PSU: make, model, wattage, age, condition (original to build, new, used, refurbished)?

Disk drive(s): make, model, capacity, how full?

Attached peripherals?

= = = =

Use Task Manager, Resource Monitor, and Process Explorer (Microsoft, free) to observe system performance.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/process-explorer

Use all three tools but only one tool at a time.

You will need to keep the tool window open and viewable.

Then work and game as you normally do.

Look for what changes when there are input delays.

Watch carefully and then determine if you can make the input delays happen by some specific action(s) on your part.

The thing is, the input delay is always active. Whenever I move my mouse or use my keyboard there is input delay so I dont know if i could pin point when it happens as its always active.

 

[thetopwolf53]

Did you try a fresh install of Windows on a brand new SSD to rule out a problem with the Operating System or the drive? A cheap 120GB SATA SSD would be fine.


You've changed most things but not the RAM. Have you performed a full MemTest86 run to confirm the memory is still 100% good? Even one error means you need to investigate further.

I'd also try a different (cheap) wired keyboard and wired mouse, just in case the ones you're using are faulty.

I have old ram and I'll try swapping it with my new one, however I dont know how my ram could've randomly gone to **** [Moderator note: edited post to remove profanity per Forum rules.] one day. As I said something just happened one day and my perfectly fine machine started having input delay thats always active.

 

[Ralston18]

Regarding : "something just happened one day".

Yes. That is why you use the suggested tools and look for entries, events, etc. that occured just before or at the time the delays began.

Could be corrupted software, buggy software, wrong driver(s), some mis-configuration. Problem update.

Think back to when you first notice the delays. Then search logs and records accordingly.

You can also use "dism" and "sfc /scannow" to look for, find, and fix buggy or corrupted files.

Check Task Manager > Startup for any unknown or unexpected processes being launched at startup.

Also check Task Scheduler: Some running process or action may be triggering the system to do something that in turn results in the delays. Attempted backup, update, or software simply "phoning home.

 

[TerryLaze]

Try these and give us the results, mouse is tied to vsync so you could disable any kind of *sync you may have active.
https://www.vsynctester.com/testing/mouse.html

Keyboard Latency Test (Scan Rate, Input Lag, Response) [New]

Keyboard latency test measures the input lag of your keyboard. It accurately calculates keyboard scan rate, key response time, polling rate.

www.clickspeedtester.com

Mouse Rate Checker (Test Mouse Polling Rate *Accurately*)

No need to download any tool to do Mouse Polling Rate test! See this online mouse rate checker, Hz checker tool to do everything in no time.

www.clickspeedtester.com

 

[thetopwolf53]

Here are all 3 test results.

 

[thetopwolf53]

Regarding : "something just happened one day".

Yes. That is why you use the suggested tools and look for entries, events, etc. that occured just before or at the time the delays began.

Could be corrupted software, buggy software, wrong driver(s), some mis-configuration. Problem update.

Think back to when you first notice the delays. Then search logs and records accordingly.

You can also use "dism" and "sfc /scannow" to look for, find, and fix buggy or corrupted files.

Check Task Manager > Startup for any unknown or unexpected processes being launched at startup.

Also check Task Scheduler: Some running process or action may be triggering the system to do something that in turn results in the delays. Attempted backup, update, or software simply "phoning home.

I can check the logs of the PC even tho i wiped the whole computer and did a fresh windows install? If so I'll check but I'm pretty sure all those events arent logged on my current computer as I've wiped everything with the install.

 

[TerryLaze]

Here are all 3 test results.

Yeah this shows that your hardware is fine.
Either your games do something they shouldn't (they are all legal right? )
or you have some malware or your mind plays tricks on you.

 

[Ralston18]

Plus it is easier to start with empty/clean logs especially if you start watching the the tools and logs from the beginning.

Any new entries or other changes are likely to be much more noticeable.

Simply keep an eye on the logs. If there are any updates, new installs, or other changes check the logs.

Even if everything seems okay.

Then check again if problems arise. Hopefully there will be some related log entries.

Reliability Monitor (Day View) is a easy, straightforward method to take a quick look as a starting point.

Then if errors and warnings appear you can investigate further.

 

[dev_cyberpunk]

you have some malware or your mind plays tricks on you.

Yes malware, more precisely a virus or rootkit.

create an ubuntu OS install usb stick using rufus and see how your hardware really works. Also feel free to use the memtest boot option on the usb stick to thoroughly test the memory

 

[thetopwolf53]

Yeah this shows that your hardware is fine.
Either your games do something they shouldn't (they are all legal right? )
or you have some malware or your mind plays tricks on you.

yes all the games are legal, the problem i have doesnt only happen in games, its across the whole machine. I dont know how it could be malware when i had 2 different computers with 2 different windows installs.

 

[dev_cyberpunk]

I dont know how it could be malware when i had 2 different computers with 2 different windows installs.

it could be something commonly installed.

download an run DPC checker and lets see what os or program module is inducing latency:

https://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Info/DPC-Latency-Checker.shtml

 

[TerryLaze]

it could be something commonly installed.

download an run DPC checker and lets see what os or program module is inducing latency:

https://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Info/DPC-Latency-Checker.shtml

Anything that would show up on DPC test would show up on the website tests.
This is either something that only happens when games run or something that only happens in his brain.
Maybe a gaming overlay that shows FPS or whatever those often cause issues.

 

[thetopwolf53]

Anything that would show up on DPC test would show up on the website tests.
This is either something that only happens when games run or something that only happens in his brain.
Maybe a gaming overlay that shows FPS or whatever those often cause issues.

so ur saying that this delay one day got built into my brain, but when I use a different computer there is no such delay. I've done the DCP test before and it said the computer has no problems with latency. I do understand how it may seem that i am just crazy, but everyone keeps telling me that until they try the computer.

 

[Ralston18]

The input delays could be a configuration setting. Possibly being a result of any keyboard combinations that you use for gaming.

Mouse pointer speed perhaps.

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Check all of the personalization settings.

Start with "WIN" + "I"

System > Personalization > System Components > Bluetooth & devices > Mouse

Also check the Accessibility configurations (options).

You may need to work through the various windows and menus.

Remember change only one thing at a time and make note of what you change, where you changed it, and both the original and new value or setting.