Question I have low fps on all games (specifically valorant) even on lowest settings but highish end pc, despite trying everything i can think of.

Let's try starting with your FULL hardware specifications. That's what's "needed".

Include CPU, motherboard, memory kit, power supply, graphics card, CPU cooler, case model, case cooling fan configuration, Windows version, motherboard BIOS version and please provide EXACT models of all those things if at all possible.
 
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Let's try starting with your FULL hardware specifications. That's what's "needed".

Include CPU, motherboard, memory kit, power supply, graphics card, CPU cooler, case model, case cooling fan configuration, Windows version, motherboard BIOS version and please provide EXACT models of all those things if at all possible.
CPU: i7-11700F @ 2.50ghz
Motherboard: B560M PRO-VDH WIFI
GPU: Nvidia RTX 3070
SSD: WD Blue SN570 NVMe PCIe M.2 1TB
Memory: Kingston KF2666C16D4/16GX KF2666C16D4/16G 32GB
Windows: 11 Home Version: 10.0.22621
BIOS version: American Megatrends International 1.H1, 12/05/2022

 
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And what about the PSU brand and model number ? Try doing a CLEAN re-install and update of the Nvidia GPU drivers.

What's the GPU and CPU Temp value while gaming ? Are you on a fresh Windows OS format/install ? Any signs of Malware/virus on your PC ?
 
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And what about the PSU brand and model number ? Try doing a CLEAN re-install and update of the Nvidia GPU drivers.

What's the GPU and CPU Temp value while gaming ? Are you a fresh Windows OS format/install ? Any signs of Malware/virus on your PC ?
Gpu sits at 43/44c whilst CPU is at 57/58c in game.

No signs of Malware and have already reinstalled gpu drivers with both nvidias clean install process and DDU

I’ll find update post with PSU tomorrow!

Thank you for any help in advance
 
The BIOS version you listed does not correspond with any compatible BIOS version shown on the product support pages for the B560M Pro-VDH WiFi motherboard. In fact, the latest version for that board is the 7D18v17 release dated 10-24-22. Please recheck the BIOS version that is installed, by going INTO the BIOS and looking at what is listed in there. I think perhaps you are looking at the wrong thing or it's being misreported in Windows. It's also possible, if YOU updated the BIOS previously, that you might have mistakenly installed a BIOS meant for a different or variant version of this motherboard.

It is probably not the issue anyhow, but let's be sure.

Also, you have two DIFFERENT memory modules installed? That did not both come together in ONE kit? That might be a problem as well. Even if they are the exact same model, if they did not come in a matched set there are a variety of things from won't work at all to reduced configuration settings and poor performance, or even "works fine" that could happen as a result.

If there are any steps listed here that you have not already done, it would be advisable to do so if for no other reason than to be able to say you've already done it and eliminate that possibility.



First,

Make sure your motherboard has the MOST recent BIOS version installed. If it does not, then update. This solves a high number of issues even in cases where the release that is newer than yours makes no mention of improving graphics card or other hardware compatibility. They do not list every change they have made when they post a new BIOS release. In cases where you DO already have the latest BIOS version, simply resetting the BIOS as follows has a fairly high percentage chance of effecting a positive change in some cases so it is ALWAYS worth TRYING, at the very least.


BIOS Hard Reset procedure

Power off the unit, switch the PSU off and unplug the PSU cord from either the wall or the power supply.

Remove the motherboard CMOS battery for about three to five minutes. In some cases it may be necessary to remove the graphics card to access the CMOS battery.

During that five minutes while the CMOS battery is out of the motherboard, press the power button on the case, continuously, for 15-30 seconds, in order to deplete any residual charge that might be present in the CMOS circuit. After the five minutes is up, reinstall the CMOS battery making sure to insert it with the correct side up just as it came out.

If you had to remove the graphics card you can now reinstall it, but remember to reconnect your power cables if there were any attached to it as well as your display cable.

Now, plug the power supply cable back in, switch the PSU back on and power up the system. It should display the POST screen and the options to enter CMOS/BIOS setup. Enter the bios setup program and reconfigure the boot settings for either the Windows boot manager or for legacy systems, the drive your OS is installed on if necessary.

Save settings and exit. If the system will POST and boot then you can move forward from there including going back into the bios and configuring any other custom settings you may need to configure such as Memory XMP, A-XMP or D.O.C.P profile settings, custom fan profile settings or other specific settings you may have previously had configured that were wiped out by resetting the CMOS.

In some cases it may be necessary when you go into the BIOS after a reset, to load the Optimal default or Default values and then save settings, to actually get the hardware tables to reset in the boot manager.

It is probably also worth mentioning that for anything that might require an attempt to DO a hard reset in the first place, IF the problem is related to a lack of video signal, it is a GOOD IDEA to try a different type of display as many systems will not work properly for some reason with displayport configurations. It is worth trying HDMI if you are having no display or lack of visual ability to enter the BIOS, or no signal messages.

Trying a different monitor as well, if possible, is also a good idea if there is a lack of display. It happens.


Second,

Go to the product page for your motherboard on the manufacturer website. Download and install the latest driver versions for the chipset, audio and network adapters. Do not skip installing a newer driver just because you think it is not relevant to the problem you are having. The drivers for one device can often affect ALL other devices and a questionable driver release can cause instability in the OS itself. They don't release new drivers just for fun. If there is a new driver release for a component, there is a good reason for it. The same goes for BIOS updates. When it comes to the chipset drivers, if your motherboard manufacturer lists a chipset driver that is newer than what the chipset developer (Intel or AMD, for our purposes) lists, then use that one. If Intel (Or AMD) shows a chipset driver version that is newer than what is available from the motherboard product page, then use that one. Always use the newest chipset driver that you can get and always use ONLY the chipset drivers available from either the motherboard manufacturer, AMD or Intel.

In ANY case, when it comes to drivers, you do not EVER want to rely on the Microsoft supplied drivers unless there is NO OTHER CHOICE because you are running a newer OS version on much older hardware and no drivers are available from the manufacturer for the OS version you are running. Then, and ONLY then, do you want to rely on the Windows supplied drivers for anything related to your motherboard (Chipset, onboard network adapters, audio, etc.), graphics card, PCIe expansion cards or peripherals like mouse, keyboard, printer, etc.

IF you have other hardware installed or attached to the system that are not a part of the systems covered by the motherboard drivers, then go to the support page for THAT component and check to see if there are newer drivers available for that as well. If there are, install them.


Third,

Make sure your memory is running at the correct advertised speed in the BIOS. This may require that you set the memory to run at the XMP profile settings. Also, make sure you have the memory installed in the correct slots and that they are running in dual channel which you can check by installing CPU-Z and checking the Memory and SPD tabs. For all modern motherboards that are dual channel memory architectures, from the last ten years at least, if you have two sticks installed they should be in the A2 (Called DDR4_1 on some boards) or B2 (Called DDR4_2 on some boards) which are ALWAYS the SECOND and FOURTH slots over from the CPU socket, counting TOWARDS the edge of the motherboard EXCEPT on boards that only have two memory slots total. In that case, if you have two modules it's not rocket science, but if you have only one, then install it in the A1 or DDR4_1 slot.



Fourth (And often tied for most important along with an up-to-date motherboard BIOS),

A clean install of the graphics card drivers. Regardless of whether you "already installed the newest drivers" for your graphics card or not, it is OFTEN a good idea to do a CLEAN install of the graphics card drivers. Just installing over the old drivers OR trying to use what Nvidia and AMD consider a clean install is not good enough and does not usually give the same result as using the Display Driver Uninstaller utility. This has a very high success rate and is always worth a shot.


If you have had both Nvidia and AMD cards installed at any point on that operating system then you will want to run the DDU twice. Once for the old card drivers (ie, Nvidia or AMD) and again for the currently installed graphics card drivers (ie, AMD or Nvidia). So if you had an Nvidia card at some point in the past, run it first for Nvidia and then after that is complete, run it again for AMD if you currently have an AMD card installed.



And last, but not least, if you have never done a CLEAN install of Windows, or have upgraded from an older version to Windows 10, or have been through several spring or fall major Windows updates, it might be a very good idea to consider doing a clean install of Windows if none of these other solutions has helped. IF you are using a Windows installation from a previous system and you didn't do a clean install of Windows after building the new system, then it's 99.99% likely that you NEED to do a CLEAN install before trying any other solutions.


How to do a CLEAN installation of Windows 10, the RIGHT way
 
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And what about the PSU brand and model number ? Try doing a CLEAN re-install and update of the Nvidia GPU drivers.

What's the GPU and CPU Temp value while gaming ? Are you on a fresh Windows OS format/install ? Any signs of Malware/virus on your PC ?
PSU: Aero cool integrator
CPU cooler: Be quiet! Pure Rock Slim 2
 
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PSU: Aero cool integrator
CPU cooler: Be quiet! Pure Rock Slim 2

Did you first update the BIOS version like mentioned above ? The latest version for your motherboard is the 7D18v17 version, dated 10-24-22. Update the BIOS and then recheck the system's performance.

Anyway that's an average poor quality PSU. I wouldn't advise using this model to power the RTX 3070. Get some other high quality power supply. I would actually avoid using any Aerocool PSU btw, except for some select models. What's the wattage of that model ?
 
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Did you first update the BIOS version like mentioned above ? The latest version for your motherboard is the 7D18v17 version, dated 10-24-22. Update the BIOS and then recheck the system's performance.

Anyway that's an average poor quality PSU. I wouldn't advise using this model to power the RTX 3070. Get some other high quality power supply. I would actually avoid using any Aerocool PSU btw, except for some select models. What's the wattage of that model ?
Everywhere i've looked says BIOS version is 1.H1 so ill try updating it see if that works
 
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Did you first update the BIOS version like mentioned above ? The latest version for your motherboard is the 7D18v17 version, dated 10-24-22. Update the BIOS and then recheck the system's performance.

Anyway that's an average poor quality PSU. I wouldn't advise using this model to power the RTX 3070. Get some other high quality power supply. I would actually avoid using any Aerocool PSU btw, except for some select models. What's the wattage of that model ?
Updating bios was the move, thank you! V1.H1 means Version 1!
 
So, did updating the BIOS fix the issue?

For the record, I still don't think you are on the latest BIOS release. HOW did you update? Did you download the latest BIOS version and update IN the BIOS, after unzipping your BIOS download to a flash drive and running the update utility from in the BIOS, or did you use some other method?

Because the latest version is 7D18v17 and there are 6 newer versions than the one you have from what I can see. You don't need to install all of them, only the latest one and I'd recommend that you educate yourself on how to do that, and then do that. The BIOS downloads are available here:


And for the record, your Aerocool integrator is both not very good quality AND likely is pretty old, since the newest review I can find of any Integrator model is about six years old. That means yours is most probably both old AND low quality, and it would be a REALLY good idea for you to replace it with something that has better quality and has not already exceeded it's expected lifespan anyhow, if you place any value on the rest of your hardware. Even if you bought this unit within the last year or two, it's highly likely it sat on a shelf somewhere for a number of years with the capacitors degrading, which isn't wonderful since they were lower quality caps even when they were new. Seriously, I'd replace it as soon as you are able to do so, and make sure you don't buy something equally poor quality this time.




 
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So, did updating the BIOS fix the issue?

For the record, I still don't think you are on the latest BIOS release. HOW did you update? Did you download the latest BIOS version and update IN the BIOS, after unzipping your BIOS download to a flash drive and running the update utility from in the BIOS, or did you use some other method?

Because the latest version is 7D18v17 and there are 6 newer versions than the one you have from what I can see. You don't need to install all of them, only the latest one and I'd recommend that you educate yourself on how to do that, and then do that. The BIOS downloads are available here:


And for the record, your Aerocool integrator is both not very good quality AND likely is pretty old, since the newest review I can find of any Integrator model is about six years old. That means yours is most probably both old AND low quality, and it would be a REALLY good idea for you to replace it with something that has better quality and has not already exceeded it's expected lifespan anyhow, if you place any value on the rest of your hardware. Even if you bought this unit within the last year or two, it's highly likely it sat on a shelf somewhere for a number of years with the capacitors degrading, which isn't wonderful since they were lower quality caps even when they were new. Seriously, I'd replace it as soon as you are able to do so, and make sure you don't buy something equally poor quality this time.




I followed this :
with the newest version but yes i agree it doesn't seem to be fully up to date.
 
Being afraid to update the BIOS is a very old school way of thinking. Yes, that is what we used to say and yes, it USED to be good advice. These days, updating the BIOS needs to be understood to be a thing that is likely going to need to be done about as commonly as updating drivers. This is not the old days. These days, you won't even HAVE hardware support for a lot of new hardware that comes out if you don't update the BIOS on a regular basis. Many games, new hardware, Windows releases and drives won't even WORK if you don't update the BIOS periodically.

So, saying to not update the BIOS unless you "have a problem" is not really good advice in the way that it used to be. And back then, there were rarely BIOS updates released, and the chances of bricking your system were fairly moderate because the hardware process was very fickle. These days, more and more boards have foolproof methods of updating the BIOS, like BIOS flashback, dual BIOS, Q-flash plus, etc., but even on boards that lack those things it should not be a thing to be feared to simply download the latest BIOS version from the product support page for your motherboard, unzip it's contents to a flash drive, go into the BIOS and run the BIOS update utility, pointing it to the new update file on the flash drive you unzipped the files to.

So long as you are moderately capable of following directions, it should be a very simple process. And be patient. Where people run into problems is they get impatient, thinking it should happen faster, and the get jumpy and either power off or do something prematurely and that causes serious problems or bricks the board. You MUST be patient during the process even if it looks like nothing is happening. So long as you do that, unless there is already an existing problem with the motherboard, there should never be anything to fear by updating the BIOS.

BUT, I also do agree that if you are not having ANY kind of problems, then it isn't strictly necessary to update. I however would call not getting the kind of performance I know I should be expecting, as having problems, and it should not be amazing to anybody how often simply updating the BIOS to the latest version completely corrects problems with hardware recognition, performance or other problems. So, I leave it up to you.

My guess is, you downloaded the wrong version. You probably downloaded the one at the bottom of the list, which is the OLDEST version, not the newest. The one listed at the TOP of the list of BIOS updates, is the newest one. This is the one you want.

 
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I've noticed a significant increase in fps as well as more GPU utilization so i would say it was worth it
How many fps? I have a ryzen 5600g paired up with a rtx 3060 oc and have the same issue. I get around 190-230fps whilst having a 240hz monitor. After seeing the results I was very disappointed when other people got easily over 240fps, I got nowhere close to that. My gpu was also running at a mediocre utilization but I thought that was due to that valorant is an esports title.