Question I need advice on buying a new PC ?

[jtwulfdragon]

I'm looking at buying a new PC and I found two builds within my budget:

Build #1

• 1 x AMD AM4 Ryzen 5 5600XT 6 Core 4.7GHz CPU
• 1 x Thermaltake UX200 SE ARGB White CPU Cooler CL-P116-AL12SW-A
• 1 x Gigabyte AM4 MicroATX B550M DS3H AC DDR4 Motherboard
• 1 x Gigabyte RTX 4060 8GB Eagle OC ICE Graphics Card GV-N4060EAGLEOC ICE-8GD
• 1 x 32GB DDR4 Corsair (2x16GB) CMH32GX4M2D3600C18W 3600MHz Vengeance RGB Pro SL Ram Kit WHITE
• 1 x 1TB Crucial P3 Plus M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD CT1000P3PSSD8
• 1 x NZXT ATX H5 Flow RGB 2024 White Case CC-H52FW-R1
• 1 x 650 Watt MSI MAG A650BN 80+ Plus Bronze ATX Power Supply
• 1 x Integrated Sound Card
• 1 x Integrated WiFi
• 1 x Microsoft Windows 11 Home 64bit OEM DVD KW9-00632
• aud $1749

Build #2

• 1 x Intel S1700 Core i5 14400 10 Core CPU BX8071514400
• 1 x ASUS S1700 MicroATX PRIME B760M-A WIFI-CSM DDR5 Motherboard
• 1 x Intel Arc B580 Battlemage Limited Edition 12GB Graphics Card
• 1 x 32GB DDR5 (2x16G) Corsair 6000MT/s Vengeance CMH32GX5M2E6000C36 RAM
• 1 x 1TB Crucial P3 Plus M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD CT1000P3PSSD8
• 1 x Antec MicroATX CX200M Fixed Mode RGB Elite BLACK Case
• 1 x 650 Watt Antec CSK650 Cuprum Strike 80+ Bronze ATX Power Supply
• 1 x Integrated Sound Card
• 1 x Microsoft Windows 11 Home 64bit OEM DVD KW9-00632
• 1 x Integrated Network Connection
• aud $1659

Would either build like be able run most games new and old aleast at 1080p 60fps at around high settings not ultra or extreme

Would either build allow me to upgrade the GPU in few years with out needing to upgrade other parts at same time?

I tryed asking the store but they just told me to go and google it but I have no clue what benchmarks tests to look for.

Thanks for any help

 

[Lutfij]

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

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*How to Ask for New Build or Upgrade Advice*

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and the community will chime in with worthwhile suggestions.

would build like be able run most games new and old aleast at 1080p 60fps at around high settings not ultra or extreme
What titles are we talking about here?

would either pc allow me to upgrade gpu in few years with out needing to upgrade other parts at same time
How long is few by your definition?

Moved thread from PC Gaming section to Systems section.

 

[Why_Me]

https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/windows-11-free-or-cheap

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($155.00 @ Computer Alliance)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG400 75.89 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.00 @ MSY Technology)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B760M-A WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($179.00 @ Centre Com)
Memory: *G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($75.00 @ I-Tech)
Storage: *Silicon Power UD90 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($164.00 @ MSY Technology)
Video Card: *PNY VERTO GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card ($449.00 @ MSY Technology)
Case: *Deepcool CC360 ARGB MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($78.00 @ Centre Com)
Power Supply: *Asus Prime AP-750G 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.00 @ JW Computers)
Total: $1268.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-03-06 22:59 AEDT+1100

PCPartPicker Part List

Monitor: *MSI G255F 24.5" 1920 x 1080 180 Hz Monitor ($158.77 @ JW Computers)
Total: $158.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-03-06 22:26 AEDT+1100

 

[jtwulfdragon]

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

You're advise to stylize your thread with info asked of in this thread;

*How to Ask for New Build or Upgrade Advice*

How to Ask for New Build or Upgrade Advice First off, respect where respect is due - this is an adaptation of the Animal's *How To Ask For New Build Advice* Sticky. I created this because there's a lot of posts nowadays asking for upgrade advice both on here and on the CPU forums, and I feel...

forums.tomshardware.com

and the community will chime in with worthwhile suggestions.

would build like be able run most games new and old aleast at 1080p 60fps at around high settings not ultra or extreme
What titles are we talking about here?

would either pc allow me to upgrade gpu in few years with out needing to upgrade other parts at same time
How long is few by your definition?

Moved thread from PC Gaming section to Systems section.

witcher 3, mass effect legendary edition, code vein, starfield, skyrim some mods, stellar blade, baldurs gate 3, tales of arise some of games i would like to play thanks for replying

 

[jtwulfdragon]

https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/windows-11-free-or-cheap

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($155.00 @ Computer Alliance)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG400 75.89 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.00 @ MSY Technology)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B760M-A WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($179.00 @ Centre Com)
Memory: *G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($75.00 @ I-Tech)
Storage: *Silicon Power UD90 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($164.00 @ MSY Technology)
Video Card: *PNY VERTO GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card ($449.00 @ MSY Technology)
Case: *Deepcool CC360 ARGB MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($78.00 @ Centre Com)
Power Supply: *Asus Prime AP-750G 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.00 @ JW Computers)
Total: $1268.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-03-06 22:59 AEDT+1100

PCPartPicker Part List

Monitor: *MSI G255F 24.5" 1920 x 1080 180 Hz Monitor ($158.77 @ JW Computers)
Total: $158.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-03-06 22:26 AEDT+1100

thanks for info i look into that build

 

[logainofhades]

For better upgrade options, I would look at AM5, over dead sockets like AM4 and LGA1700. I wouldn't be buying an 8gb gpu now either.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($479.00 @ Centre Com)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.00 @ Scorptec)
Motherboard: ASRock B850 Pro RS WiFi ATX AM5 Motherboard ($325.00 @ Scorptec)
Memory: Silicon Power XPOWER Pulse Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($149.00 @ MSY Technology)
Storage: Silicon Power UD90 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($78.00 @ MSY Technology)
Video Card: ASRock Challenger OC Arc B580 12 GB Video Card ($439.00 @ Scorptec)
Case: Silverstone FARA 515XR ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.00 @ MSY Technology)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 ATX 3.0 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.00 @ Computer Alliance)
Total: $1727.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-03-07 00:02 AEDT+1100

 

[geofelt]

To answer your questions:
Both builds are comparable in gaming performance.
#2 is marginally stronger in cpu and gpu.

But...
neither 650w psu is going to be able to support a much stronger graphics card in the future.

 

[helper800]

witcher 3, mass effect legendary edition, code vein, starfield, skyrim some mods, stellar blade, baldurs gate 3, tales of arise some of games i would like to play thanks for replying

Starfield, BG3, and Stellar Blade are probably the most difficult to run games on that list. 60 FPS average? Yeah probably, however, I am not 100% confident in Intel's graphics drivers for older games like Witcher 3 and Mass Effect. The thing is though that the second PC with the Intel graphics card is the clear choice as its more powerful in both CPU and GPU while being cheaper. IMO you should build a PC to get a more powerful non-Intel graphics card for older games support. I would suggest build something like the following which is better in every way and much more powerful. If you can get a 9070 XT (600-700$), 9070 (550-650$), or a 5070 ti (800+$), 5070 (600+$) for a graphics card you would be good to play games for years to come and won't have to worry about driver issues in old games like with the intel graphics cards. The 9070 XT would be the ideal card for price to performance.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor ($229.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 140 77.8 CFM CPU Cooler ($47.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B850 EAGLE WIFI6E ATX AM5 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Inland Performance Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card ($0.00)
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 210 Core 2 Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card ($529.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire NITRO+ Radeon RX 9070 16 GB Video Card ($0.00)
Video Card: Sapphire NITRO+ Radeon RX 9070 XT 16 GB Video Card ($0.00)
Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($63.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1350.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-03-06 12:21 EST-0500