I3 8100 vs ryzen 5 2400g

[rymikasradcomputerservices]

Ryzen 5 2400g or i3 8100 which is better???

 

[Supahos]

For?

 

[rymikasradcomputerservices]

Gaming

For?

 

[rymikasradcomputerservices]

It’s going to be one or the other. But which is better???

 

[Supahos]

Better for what? Some things the 8100 is better at some the 2400, and if you're going to say gaming will you buy a separate GPU or not

 

[sonicmaniafan]

The 2400g hands down if you're using the integrated graphics.

 

[rymikasradcomputerservices]

Yes I’m gonna get 1050ti 4gb gpu and I’m gonna play games like destiny 2

Better for what? Some things the 8100 is better at some the 2400, and if you're going to say gaming will you buy a separate GPU or not

 

[rymikasradcomputerservices]

Would the integrated graphics on a 2400 be better than a 1080ti????

 

[Supahos]

You'll probably have basically the same performance either way. I'd probably get the 2400g just for the fact you'll be able to upgrade the cpu for at least 1 if not 2 more generations

 

[rymikasradcomputerservices]

Upgrade 1 or 2 generations on a Asrock ab350 pro motherboard????

You'll probably have basically the same performance either way. I'd probably get the 2400g just for the fact you'll be able to upgrade the cpu for at least 1 if not 2 more generations

 

[sonicmaniafan]

Intel is better for gaming. So I'd go with the 8100. Though it doesn't make much difference with that graphics card as you'll be more GPU bound anyway. There are a few different ways you can think about this. You could get the cheapest one. You could think about upgradeability. Which would you rather be able to upgrade to? Core i9 9900K or Zen 3 possibly? Zen 2 or Zen 3 will have lots more cores and have better ipc most likely than what intel offers.

 

[Supahos]

I'd get a b450 motherboard to ensure compatibly out of box and increase odds of future upgrades being compatible

 

[Supahos]

As for Intel being better at gaming in most cases a 2400g on onboard beats the 8100 and a 1030. The lack of turbo boost hurts the 8100

 

[rymikasradcomputerservices]

Intel is better for gaming. So I'd go with the 8100. Though it doesn't make much difference with that graphics card as you'll be more GPU bound anyway. There are a few different ways you can think about this. You could get the cheapest one. You could think about upgradeability. Which would you rather be able to upgrade to? Core i9 9900K or Zen 3 possibly? Zen 2 or Zen 3 will have lots more cores and have better ipc most likely than what intel offers.

I’m running a 1050ti not a 1030

As for Intel being better at gaming in most cases a 2400g on onboard beats the 8100 and a 1030. The lack of turbo boost hurts the 8100

 

[punkncat]

TBH, regardless of what you were going to use it for...I would go with the Ryzen instead. With a B chipset you can OC to well better performance AND the integrated graphics on it are far superior to the integrated on the Intel.
This isn't to say the Intel chip is bad, but the unlocked ability within all the Ryzen is not something to discount at that level.

 

[rymikasradcomputerservices]

Excellent point but does the board support cpu overclocking???i think that’d be my final deciding factor.

TBH, regardless of what you were going to use it for...I would go with the Ryzen instead. With a B chipset you can OC to well better performance AND the integrated graphics on it are far superior to the integrated on the Intel.
This isn't to say the Intel chip is bad, but the unlocked ability within all the Ryzen is not something to discount at that level.

 

[Supahos]

My point is the 1030 is a bit better than the on board on the 2400, if the 2400 is beating a 8100 and 1030 in games the cpu must be better too. Yes any b450 motherboard will all you to overclock

 

[rymikasradcomputerservices]

Any thoughts on the ryzen 7 1700x? I’m probably gonna get that instead. Does it have integrated graphics??? I have a 1050ti just in case.

My point is the 1030 is a bit better than the on board on the 2400, if the 2400 is beating a 8100 and 1030 in games the cpu must be better too. Yes any b450 motherboard will all you to overclock

 

[rymikasradcomputerservices]

Also it’s a ab350 pro not a b450. That doesn’t support overclocking?

 

[Supahos]

The b350 will support overclocking, it just might not support your 2400 out of the box without a bios update which can be a hassle. And it may not get a bios update for the 3000/4000 ryzen chips down the line.

The 1700x doesn't have integrated graphics.

But I'd get a 2600 and a b450 motherboard before a 1700x and b350 personally.

 

[punkncat]

I would suggest to you to do some research on motherboard quality and the VRM and heatsinks on various ones, in relation to the Ryzen 7. There are a lot of really good videos out by "buildozer" I think is his name on youtube and he discusses the quality of, and power delivery of those items with about every Ryzen motherboard out there.

Short version is that almost any B3/450 motherboard will have "enough" to do a Ryzen 3, and probably a 5. The issues particularly start creeping up when you move to the 7 and especially the X models due to the power they are going to require to stay stable.

Something else to mention. If you get a 1xxx of any Ryzen processor, pay close attention to the memory compatibility....there is a name for it that escapes me...within the motherboards website. They were very peculiar and particular about what RAM would work. This was alleviated significantly with the 2xxx series. IF you get a 2xxx make SURE to buy a 4 series chipset/mobo so that it will boot properly.

 

[rymikasradcomputerservices]

Soooo ab350 pro won’t boot up with a 2400g. If it doesn’t out of the box why is the store offering a bundle with the two together??? That makes zero sense!

 

[Supahos]

Not saying it won't, saying it might not. Depends which bios version it ships with. Most people making those deals don't know any more than you did when you came here

 

[rymikasradcomputerservices]

Huh. I wonder if the ones sold as new have updated bios. Hmmm

 

[punkncat]

Soooo ab350 pro won’t boot up with a 2400g. If it doesn’t out of the box why is the store offering a bundle with the two together??? That makes zero sense!

Well, I would almost assume you are looking at that Newegg ad that had a combo like that, or one of the 'super' stores. If you read the fine print it almost always says they don't guarantee compatibility. They are just bundling things they want gone in most cases.

I know at one point you could get a "boot kit" from AMD that was a loaner chip that would allow you to update BIOS, but for the few dollar difference do you REALLY want to take the proc in and out twice on your new build?