i5 bottlenecks my gtx 1080

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ok so i just built my new gaming pc and the benchmarks that i saw were games like bf1 or gta 5 so i built the pc and downloaded the games after i opened them the fps was running half of what the benchmarks told bf1 was at 60 fps with stuttering and gta 5 only at 60 fps and dropping to mid 40 in mid sometimes after that i opened afterburner and task manager and saw cpu 100% and gpu 40% is that a bottleneck if so should i upgrade to an i7 7700k or there is another solution please help

pc specs:
motherboard: asus prime b250m-a
cpu:i5 7500
cpu cooler: arctic freeze extreme
ram:hyperx fury 8gb 2400mhz
gpu:gtx 1080 g1 gaming
psu:corsair vs650 650w

 

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At this point, I believe your system isn't well balanced and the performance reflects that. It's brand new, drivers are up to date, V-sync off, power settings are set to performance, no memory leaks, or programs stealing extra resources. Performance was even worse on the 4k tv... that's to be expected, since that has way more pixels anyways.

None of the 3 games(the only ones?) you listed make good use of the 1080 you have. It's practically YAWNING in that case. It'd be okay if the monitors were 1080p/120hz+, but instead are standard 60hz... 1060 6gb(maybe) and 1070 would've been better options - DISREGARD ALL THIS IF GPU WAS ACQUIRED DURING MINING CRAZE.

2 of the 3 games also can/will use more than 8gbs of ram, as well as run smoother with an I7(BF 1 moreso than GTA 5) instead.
You can try bumping up to 16gbs of ram first, then an I7 later. Perhaps you were expecting too much from your current build?[/quote



it's in every game but the witcher 3 the witcher 3 is gpu 100% and cpu 100% and good fps ok i can't really return my gpu to the store but i think monday i will go to the store with my pc and ask them if they can do something about a new cpu and ram

 

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look at this video it's even with a gtx 1080 ti!!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP42tAvEf7o

127 fps!!!!!!!! bf1

 

[valeman2012]

even my Intel i5 7600 gives some bottlenecks to my Geforce GTX 1080 Ti

 

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ok so i found the solution ish i updated my bios and the fps drops were smaller and no stuttering so i'm going to save up some money for the i7 7700k and 8 more gb of hyperx fury 2133mhz because it's the same one as my other 8 gb of ram

 

[KirbysHammer]

even my Intel i5 7600 gives some bottlenecks to my Geforce GTX 1080 Ti

What were you smoking when you picked that combo?

 

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even my Intel i5 7600 gives some bottlenecks to my Geforce GTX 1080 Ti

What were you smoking when you picked that combo?

lol

 

[valeman2012]

even my Intel i5 7600 gives some bottlenecks to my Geforce GTX 1080 Ti

What were you smoking when you picked that combo?

No i bought the Intel i5 7600 very early of the year (days after motherboard for H270 released) for that CPU.

I bought GTX 1080 later, but i going upgrade to Coffee Lake Soon (with New motherboard)

 

[-_HELP_ME_-]

even my Intel i5 7600 gives some bottlenecks to my Geforce GTX 1080 Ti

What were you smoking when you picked that combo?

No i bought the Intel i5 7600 very early of the year (days after motherboard for H270 released) for that CPU.

I bought GTX 1080 later, but i going upgrade to Coffee Lake Soon (with New motherboard)

coffee lake? maybe kaby lake

 

[Phaaze88]

look at this video it's even with a gtx 1080 ti!!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP42tAvEf7o

127 fps!!!!!!!! bf1

The 1080ti is up to 30% faster than 1080... the benchmarker is also using 16gb 3200mhz ram, about twice what you currently have, and I bet they also ran the test on a single monitor as opposed to your triple that's locked at 60fps, which is the most you'll ever really see unless you upgrade to a high refresh one. If a program says otherwise, it's not taking into account the 60fps cap.

 

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look at this video it's even with a gtx 1080 ti!!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP42tAvEf7o

127 fps!!!!!!!! bf1

The 1080ti is up to 30% faster than 1080... the benchmarker is also using 16gb 3200mhz ram, about twice what you currently have, and I bet they also ran the test on a single monitor as opposed to your triple that's locked at 60fps, which is the most you'll ever really see unless you upgrade to a high refresh one. If a program says otherwise, it's not taking into account the 60fps cap.

i get asbout 60-80 fps in bf1 the witcher 3 80fps

 

[Phaaze88]

Again, whatever is telling you that, isn't taking into account your monitors' 60fps cap. It's superficial. It won't matter if you have a 7740x, a 1080ti, with 32gbs 4000mhz ram - capable of pushing 3000 fps or whatever - if the monitor maxes at 60, then that's the most you'll ever see.

 

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Again, whatever is telling you that, isn't taking into account your monitors' 60fps cap. It's superficial. It won't matter if you have a 7740x, a 1080ti, with 32gbs 4000mhz ram - capable of pushing 3000 fps or whatever - if the monitor maxes at 60, then that's the most you'll ever see.

i know that's the max my monitor can show is 60 fps but i have no point of upgrading my monitor now if the fps is just 60 now when i'll buy the i7 and more ram my pc will show more then now and then i'll upgrade to a 144hz monitor

 

[_MasterG_]

Hey you can oc your monitor too if you want, usually monitors can push 70 fps if they are cheap, more if they are expensive, bt you will lose some color detail

 

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hey guy's is there an i5 cpu for socket 1151 that is better then my i5 7500 or the best choise is the i7 7700k?

 

[Phaaze88]

I5 7600k - however minor that increase will be - clocked slightly higher, and is overclockable... with a z-series motherboard.
Those games will benefit from the 7700k's extra threads, as well as being clocked higher than your current I5.

Beware: when adding ram, the sticks may or may not work. If you're going to get 16gb, it'd be safer to get a new kit. If you choose to add another 8gb - even if it's the same brand and speed - if the timings are different, it can lead to system instability.

 

[burgessanthony]

A non oc i5 with a gtx1080 is rather unbalanced. However, I run a 6600k at 4.4 and have my monitor (which is 2560x1080, so 1.3x 1080) clocked to 75hz.

In that combo, every game sits at 75fps, maxed, usually 1.5dsr, with GPU loads of 80-90 and CPU sometimes lower (Witcher) or also maxed (watch dogs, bf1). It's a very decent experience and the 1080 remains low stressed and cool.

So it's no bad thing and you, like me, can keep the 1080 for at least another build or monitor upgrade

Def try and overcloxk the monitors, clean drivers using ddu, through some.more ram in as others have suggested.

 

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I5 7600k - however minor that increase will be - clocked slightly higher, and is overclockable... with a z-series motherboard.
Those games will benefit from the 7700k's extra threads, as well as being clocked higher than your current I5.

Beware: when adding ram, the sticks may or may not work. If you're going to get 16gb, it'd be safer to get a new kit. If you choose to add another 8gb - even if it's the same brand and speed - if the timings are different, it can lead to system instability.

if i get 1 stick of 16gb is it good or i should get a new kit?

 

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i overclocked my monitor to 66hz because that's the best it can hold and look good at the same time

 

[Phaaze88]

I5 7600k - however minor that increase will be - clocked slightly higher, and is overclockable... with a z-series motherboard.
Those games will benefit from the 7700k's extra threads, as well as being clocked higher than your current I5.

Beware: when adding ram, the sticks may or may not work. If you're going to get 16gb, it'd be safer to get a new kit. If you choose to add another 8gb - even if it's the same brand and speed - if the timings are different, it can lead to system instability.

if i get 1 stick of 16gb is it good or i should get a new kit?

One stick will be fine. I'm not going to go into detail of single channel and dual channel... it'll just over-complicate things for you.

 

[_MasterG_]

I5 7600k - however minor that increase will be - clocked slightly higher, and is overclockable... with a z-series motherboard.
Those games will benefit from the 7700k's extra threads, as well as being clocked higher than your current I5.

Beware: when adding ram, the sticks may or may not work. If you're going to get 16gb, it'd be safer to get a new kit. If you choose to add another 8gb - even if it's the same brand and speed - if the timings are different, it can lead to system instability.

if i get 1 stick of 16gb is it good or i should get a new kit?

One stick will be fine. I'm not going to go into detail of single channel and dual channel... it'll just over-complicate things for you.

i will do the detail, At least you will run some workstation with ecc memory or you go tu use the igpu (the integrated cpu) dual channel doesnt make any difference, it just make the double of the bandwich, that was good in the first gen of rams, but ddr3 doesnt fall in that problem, ddr4 less because one module has enought bandwich and the bottleneck will be the HDD or SDD, ( calm down its a normal bottleneck), igpu can make a full use of a single memory bandwich, thats why dual channel makes igpu better.

 

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ok somebody told me to use ddu so i used it installed my drivers again and now bf1 is running 100% on the cpu and the gpu any solutions? or meaning to this? after one game in bf1 like that my pc was so hot to touch because the gpu was making it overheat so much i enabled gpu fans 100% and put a big fan outside to cool my pc

 

[KirbysHammer]

ok somebody told me to use ddu so i used it installed my drivers again and now bf1 is running 100% on the cpu and the gpu any solutions? or meaning to this? after one game in bf1 like that my pc was so hot to touch because the gpu was making it overheat so much i enabled gpu fans 100% and put a big fan outside to cool my pc

The 7500 is going to bottleneck a 1080 in BF1, so 100% usage is right.

 

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ok somebody told me to use ddu so i used it installed my drivers again and now bf1 is running 100% on the cpu and the gpu any solutions? or meaning to this? after one game in bf1 like that my pc was so hot to touch because the gpu was making it overheat so much i enabled gpu fans 100% and put a big fan outside to cool my pc

The 7500 is going to bottleneck a 1080 in BF1, so 100% usage is right.

i already know that but the gpu is at 100% now

 

[KirbysHammer]

ok somebody told me to use ddu so i used it installed my drivers again and now bf1 is running 100% on the cpu and the gpu any solutions? or meaning to this? after one game in bf1 like that my pc was so hot to touch because the gpu was making it overheat so much i enabled gpu fans 100% and put a big fan outside to cool my pc

The 7500 is going to bottleneck a 1080 in BF1, so 100% usage is right.

i already know that but the gpu is at 100% now

Then your computer is in a weird state of being balanced. However, you now have no upgrade path for your GPU and as games start using more threads in the future- Intel is making sure that's happening by going to 6c-12t on mainstream chips, you may find your i5 falls behind quite a bit in 2018's AAA titles.

 

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but there is still low fps then what it should be so what is going on here?