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PCs will never die, but the current trend we are currently experiencing is more of a fusion of both tablet and PC form factor.
Basically, it all comes down to the question of how much computing power & performance do you really need? While there will always be those individuals that will require unlimited computing power, the average consumer has the most basic requirements. (browse the internet, check e-mail, facebook, etc.)
As devices get smaller and more powerful, more and more *consumers* will find that they just don't need that bulky desktop sitting under their desk, and given the option will choose a smaller form-factor device. Note that we are already seeing this trend in the increased sale of tablet devices.
This will eventually translate into the business sector as many corporations are already finding viable solutions to their business needs by way of tablet computers, particularly in hospitals and education, and sales professionals.
Now add remote access and virtualization technology into the mix and you now have very convenient mobile devices that can connect to remote PCs, terminal servers, and cloud-based devices like Google's Chromebook which will alter the entire PC landscape.
Personally, I will always have use for a PC, but there is no denying what is happening right before our eyes (sorry for the long comment).
Basically, it all comes down to the question of how much computing power & performance do you really need? While there will always be those individuals that will require unlimited computing power, the average consumer has the most basic requirements. (browse the internet, check e-mail, facebook, etc.)
As devices get smaller and more powerful, more and more *consumers* will find that they just don't need that bulky desktop sitting under their desk, and given the option will choose a smaller form-factor device. Note that we are already seeing this trend in the increased sale of tablet devices.
This will eventually translate into the business sector as many corporations are already finding viable solutions to their business needs by way of tablet computers, particularly in hospitals and education, and sales professionals.
Now add remote access and virtualization technology into the mix and you now have very convenient mobile devices that can connect to remote PCs, terminal servers, and cloud-based devices like Google's Chromebook which will alter the entire PC landscape.
Personally, I will always have use for a PC, but there is no denying what is happening right before our eyes (sorry for the long comment).
Most people are users, not dumb persons. There is no need to insult your grand mother, or your cousin, or someone else.
Well, those average users (Persons) don't need a very powerful computer and they wont spend a lot of money in something is not for them. As a matter of fact most of them are increasingly satisfied just with an underpowered and relatively expensive PC as long as the experience is more fluid to them, more meaningful. Don't blame them, don't hate them.
But of course all this massive situation shift in the entire computer industry will have a big impact in "us" power users. Don't expect the industry will find the same market intensive it has today to produce massive cutting edge PC parts. Those will still be produced because there will be demand for high end workstations. BUT, they will become more and more expensive. So, they wont disappear but they will be produced for very specific needs.
Well, those average users (Persons) don't need a very powerful computer and they wont spend a lot of money in something is not for them. As a matter of fact most of them are increasingly satisfied just with an underpowered and relatively expensive PC as long as the experience is more fluid to them, more meaningful. Don't blame them, don't hate them.
But of course all this massive situation shift in the entire computer industry will have a big impact in "us" power users. Don't expect the industry will find the same market intensive it has today to produce massive cutting edge PC parts. Those will still be produced because there will be demand for high end workstations. BUT, they will become more and more expensive. So, they wont disappear but they will be produced for very specific needs.
I'd tell him to get a 1080p e-IPS screen and turn that bitch into a media center - if the CPU can handle it, obviously. IPS panels are especially good if you work with graphics, while e-IPS gives you just taste (better viewing angles, better colours, etc).
Keep desktops for actual work, by all means. It's actually better this way because you'll start to associate the place/room with doing work just like you associate the bed/bedroom for (better) sleep.
Keep desktops for actual work, by all means. It's actually better this way because you'll start to associate the place/room with doing work just like you associate the bed/bedroom for (better) sleep.
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He is trying to justify the one move IBM didn't do right; selling their PC business when it is still a driver in innovation.
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I thinks its pretty obvious that tablets and cloud computing can evolve together into something that would be a replacement for the desktop PC. If the companies developing the devices will work together to make it happen is debatable.
In fairness, the PC will probably go back to being more of a niche/nerd toy and an office tool, as it was in the early to mid 90's before the explosion of Windows 9x and the Web made it a must-have household device. The majority of users needs will probably be fulfilled by smartphones, which is essentially the new PC in that respect, whilst those of us using productivity tools or high-end gaming will always need a PC. I can't see the PC becoming as obsolete as a typewriter any time soon though.
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Perhaps DESKTOP computers are dying, but they have been losing market to laptops for probably a decade now. And someone that uses a tablet as their primary computer must have a bluetooth keyboard which effectively means that its a laptop. And for that matter, how is a tablet or even a smart phone NOT a PC? They are personal devices that do computer tasks. If I can send email on a device then its a PC.
Maybe he's just talking about the end of the PC 'desktop/windowed' interface? Or the end of mouse input? I still think those are both going to be the main usage model for at least games and productivity for many years.
Maybe he's just talking about the end of the PC 'desktop/windowed' interface? Or the end of mouse input? I still think those are both going to be the main usage model for at least games and productivity for many years.
Yeah this is exactly how I feel now... Let's open the debate... again!!! No seriously I won't argue about poor consoles or tablets this time. We all know that this won't happen ever. We (all tomshardware members) don't use our computers just to type words, but to do shit loads of different things that we won't be able to do with anything else. I won't ever do advanced language coding on a tablet, ever. If I'd do that, I would morph my tablet to be looking like a computer before I do, so what's the point of it?? doing coding or gaming does require a REAL keyboard and mice, as it also requires really modular hardware. My computer currently has 16 USB 2.0 ports (on which 13 are used for different peripherals) and is able to use 4 displays at once and game like crazy while also doing a dozen things at the same time, like compressing GB of data (to then burn that on DVDs) and ripping my audio CDs to OGG or FLAC, downloading all the time, while I'm gaming. Never a tablet could do that without being a full-fledge computer... I will buy a few tablets in the near future but even if I start to use tablets more than my PCs, it never shall be tie to what a computer can do as I require a lot from computers. Oh well...
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This is taken directly from Dean's blog: "PCs are being replaced at the center of computing not by another type of device—though there’s plenty of excitement about smart phones and tablets—but by new ideas about the role that computing can play in progress. These days, it’s becoming clear that innovation flourishes best not on devices but in the social spaces between them, where people and ideas meet and interact."
In other words, he is saying nothing. It is all fluff in his head. Of COURSE innovation flourishes when communication is well-facilitated. He is fixated on, in his words, "the role computing can play in progress". He is so far in the cloud that he can't see out. This article and Dean's blog wasted my time.
In other words, he is saying nothing. It is all fluff in his head. Of COURSE innovation flourishes when communication is well-facilitated. He is fixated on, in his words, "the role computing can play in progress". He is so far in the cloud that he can't see out. This article and Dean's blog wasted my time.
Don't get me wrong, I love my PCs and will continue upgrading every few years as long as they keep building them, but I'm all for smaller and smaller form factors. Yea, the current market of tablets and netbooks doesn't have the same capability of current desktops, but if you look at roadmaps and where companies are putting their money, we're going to have tablets with fast CPUs/APUs with 6+ cores and high end graphics and beautiful displays. All of the innovation is heading in this direction, to try not to think about the here and now, but think about what the future will look like. My next big purchase will be a highend laptop or ultrabook that is capable of playing the latest games. Maybe it 3 years, I'll be looking for a tablet to do the same...
[citation][nom]coldmast[/nom]might as well say TVs are going the way of the Radio[/citation]
Which was? Radios are still widely used. I listen to radio every night. My dad listens to it every day and always carry one with him. I have beefy a PC configuration and a good internet connection, cable TV, and i still listen to Radio.
Which was? Radios are still widely used. I listen to radio every night. My dad listens to it every day and always carry one with him. I have beefy a PC configuration and a good internet connection, cable TV, and i still listen to Radio.
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See that our basic human motor functions and our vision won't be changing any time soon the need for
large screen space.. 30+ inches.
Multi-monitor set ups.
Precise input (MOUSE) and fast typing (keyboard).
Will NOT be ending anytime soon... if ever... Unless they can somehow hook a device directly to our brains and have total control.
The casual Facebook browser type of people will move on. Power users, PC gamers, and artists will not be letting go of the desktop ANYTIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
large screen space.. 30+ inches.
Multi-monitor set ups.
Precise input (MOUSE) and fast typing (keyboard).
Will NOT be ending anytime soon... if ever... Unless they can somehow hook a device directly to our brains and have total control.
The casual Facebook browser type of people will move on. Power users, PC gamers, and artists will not be letting go of the desktop ANYTIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
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Alright so while all the other fuckers are squinting at their little phones, I'll just be sitting here in front of my 23inch screen with 14 windows open. nbd
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[citation][nom]PreferLinux[/nom]Really? For low-end machines, yes. But for HPC, servers, workstations and enthusiast machines, never – they develop them all by developing any one of them.[/citation]
The servers are going to have to get even better to keep up with the demand of the whole cloud bullshit thing + everything being on the web + streaming shit.
Yeah big hardware isn't going anywhere fast. There will always be development in that category.
The servers are going to have to get even better to keep up with the demand of the whole cloud bullshit thing + everything being on the web + streaming shit.
Yeah big hardware isn't going anywhere fast. There will always be development in that category.
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