If Bulldozer is a fail Is Ivy Bridge also a fail

[Allan_01]

Alot of rumors now that ivy bridge runs hot @higher GHZ

 

[Chip in a box]

Yeah it is. I think it's cheaper now but the 8120 was always the best part for performance per watt and price but like you say its just a little slower than the 2500K all around.

With clock speeds at 4.5 and 4.4 GHz though the 8120 proves itself to be a good cpu in a comparison -
http://www.overclock.net/t/1210060/fx8120-vs-2500k-benchmark-results

 

[7970 FTW]

Toms own review shows bulldozer wins about half of the non gaming benchmarks vs the 2500k. It just sucks in gaming because most games dont use all the available cores.

Only when tested against Starcraft II and the like does Intel really pull ahead reason being Intel sabotaged and disabled the performance on the AMD chips to make themselves look better.

 

[amuffin]

The amount of fail is high in this one^

 

[Anonymous_26]

i don't see how Ivy Bridges is a flop when compared to Bullcrapper. Ivy Bridges might not see the 20% performance increase people are throwing out there ( I don't think there will be anywhere near 20% in performance BTW) but it's a slight adjustment in the Sandy Bridge architecture. No one at Intel said there was going to be insane performance increases with Ivy bridges unlike AMD with Bulldozer. Ivy Bridges will still be an improvement (though small) in a previous architecture. Bulldozer was a complete disaster. It runs hot and the IPC is a joke as is the whole modual bs.

 

[7970 FTW]

e amount of fail is high in this one

Th^

Prove it that Intel sponsored games do not favor Intel CPUs The amount of fanboy fail is high in that one ^

 

[Anonymous_26]

e amount of fail is high in this one
Prove it that Intel sponsored games do not favor Intel CPUs The amount of fanboy fail is high in that one ^

Pff please go take your tinfoil hat and conspiracy theories and go sit in the corner.

 

[amuffin]

I think he knows that Bulldozer was a fail.

 

[7970 FTW]

Pff please go take your tinfoil hat and conspiracy theories and go sit in the corner.

Laugh at you if you think that Starcraft II and Civ V don't favor Intel chips

 

[Anonymous_26]

It favors Intel because the Bulldozer is garbage for gaming. Civ 5 is CPU demanding especially towards the end of the game it should favor more cores/threads like the Bulldozer but it doesn't.

 

[amuffin]

Those games run better on Phenom X6 than they do on bulldozer!

 

[7970 FTW]

It favors Intel because the Bulldozer is garbage for gaming. Civ 5 is CPU demanding especially towards the end of the game it should favor more cores/threads like the Bulldozer but it doesn't.

It doesn't run on AMD well because Intel helped program the game naturally they would try and make it so that it would play well and jive with there own architecture. BF3, Metro 2033, Crysis 1&2, STALKER series, Just Cause II, Mafia II and fairly well all others excepts they very few sticklers that were conveniently sponsored and developed in conjunction with Intel such as Starcraft II and Civ V both which are not very graphically demanding games by todays standards run like *** on AMD but not Intel LOL.

 

[amuffin]

How come Dirt 3 runs better on intel then?

 

[digdog]

i5 2500k 4.4GHZ|8GB DDR3 Ripjawsx|EVGA Z68 FTW 3-way SLi| EVGA GTX 480 SSC 880/1760/1900 SLi|2x Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB RAID-0|Crucial M4 64GB|Silverstone 1kw strider

recognise that? says "4.4", not "five gigahertz"

SB chips average 4.4Ghz on OC. IB tests give it 4.5 on air. IB is also more performant per clock cycle. a 4.6Ghz IB cinebenches as a 5.0Ghz SB, though with less vcore. sure, trigate and 22nm make it a problem to get rid of the heat, but we're not talking 6Ghz on water.

That's for next week;

The 4000 series IGPU is just a bonus. IB will easily outperform SB in "raw CPU grunt" - unless ofc you have a stellar SB and a terrible IB chip, but that's luck, no?

 

[amuffin]

^still runs hotter though 🙁 So that screws stuff up, even with the less vcore..

 

[Anonymous_26]

It doesn't run on AMD well because Intel helped program the game naturally they would try and make it so that it would play well and jive with there own architecture. BF3, Metro 2033, Crysis 1&2, STALKER series, Just Cause II, Mafia II and fairly well all others excepts they very few sticklers that were conveniently sponsored and developed in conjunction with Intel such as Starcraft II and Civ V both which are not very graphically demanding games by todays standards run like *** on AMD but not Intel LOL.

Yea that has to be it.. can't be becuase the Bulldozer is a slow and hot with a horrible IPC. The excuses fanboys come up with never cease to amaze me.

 

[7970 FTW]

How come Dirt 3 runs better on intel then?

Never noticed a hit on that game using AMD/Radeon platform the game ran flawlessly.

 

[7970 FTW]

Yea that has to be it.. can't be becuase the Bulldozer is a slow hot POS with a hrrible IPC. The excuses fanboys come up with never cease to amaze me.

It's not a fanboy thing it's just the way it is and I am not a fanboy by any stretch. Also you might want to just cool down on the BD anti rhetoric you know there are other AMD chips and I here the new Intel's are even more hot running than BD

 

[Anonymous_26]

It's not a fanboy thing it's just the way it is and I am not a fanboy by any stretch. Also you might want to just cool down on the BD anti rhetoric you know there are other AMD chips and I here the new Intel's are even more hot running than BD

Thats all rumor right now. They have not offically been released yet and only a few have gotten a chance to benchmark test models. For all we know it could be a problem with overvolting or BIOS. Even if it does run hotter it's still a performance increase over Sandy Bridges, unlike Bulldozer that had worse performance over the old Phenom II CPU's.

 

[7970 FTW]

Thats all rumor right now. They have not offically been released yet and only a few have gotten a chance to benchmark test models. For all we know it could be a problem with overvolting or BIOS. Even if it does run hotter it's still a performance increase over Sandy Bridges, unlike Bulldozer that had worse performance over the old Phenom II CPU's.

Worse performance than Phenom II is highly unsubstantiated biased Intel boasting propaganda however I would like to see the documentation in where Phenom II consistently and just out right outperforms an equivalent BD part in the majority of none cherry picked and none biased benchmarks and real world testing.

 

[Anonymous_26]

Worse performance than Phenom II is highly unsubstantiated biased Intel boasting propaganda however I would like to see the documentation in where Phenom II consistently and just out right outperforms an equivalent BD part in the majority of none cherry picked and none biased benchmarks and real world testing.

No it's not look at the benchmarks.You have no idea what you're talking about. It's a known fact that in gaming the Bulldozer gets beaten out by the older Phenom II's.

 

[7970 FTW]

No it's not look at the benchmarks.You have no idea what you're talking about. It's a known fact that in gaming the Bulldozer gets beaten out by the older Phenom II's.

http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/452/bench/Gaming_01.png

http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/452/bench/Gaming_02.png

http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/amd-fx-8150/metro.png

http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/amd-fx-8150/dirt.png

BD wins in the first chart you posted and the second chart 1fps is margin of error LOL and the rest can be completely mitigated by way of OCing = not bad for a server work horse CPU. I will point out that BULL DOZER FX 4170 beat the i7 2600K in Just cause 2

 

[noob2222]

Kinda funny how high resolution switches favor to AMD. Wonder why everyone wants to only show low res gaming?

 

[7970 FTW]

Kinda funny how high resolution switches favor to AMD. Wonder why everyone wants to only show low res gaming?

No need to get defensive Intel and AMD both have great gaming CPU options some games perform a little better on Intel and some favor AMD in the end when it all comes out in the wash both camps delver perfectly playable framerates in todays modern games and yesterdays games alike.

 

[Anonymous_26]

The 8150 is the only one to come out on top. The PhenomII beat out all the other models of Bulldozer. If you call that a victory thats pretty pathetic. The fact is stock clock for clock the Phenom II beats out the Bulldozer. You just helped prove my point the Bulldozer is garbage and has to be overclocked just to compete with older Phenom II.

 

[7970 FTW]

The 8150 is the only one to come out on top. The PhenomII beat out all the other models of Bulldozer. If you call that a victory thats pretty pathetic. The fact is stock clock for clock the Phenom II beats out the Bulldozer. You just helped prove my point the Bulldozer is garbage and has to be overclocked just to compete with older Phenom II.

They were all to close to call a clear winner they all played the games perfectly and we could go as far as to pointing out the clear win for the BULL DOZER FX 4170 when it over took the i7 2600K and i5 2500 and all other Intel chips but thats splitting hairs and a bit ridiculous since they are much to close to crown a clear winner.