Talk to me like I'm stupid, please.
I'm considering upgrading my 1st build (May 2020):
MSI B450 Gaming Plus Max
Ryzen 5 3600
Arctic Freezer 34 Esports Duo CPU Cooler
MSI 1660 Super Ventus XS OC - recently upgraded to - Gigabyte 3060 Ti Aorus Elite
G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2X8GB) DDR4 3200
Crucial P1 500GB 3D NAND NVME M.2
Crucial MX500 1TB SSD
WD Blue 1TB HDD
FSP Hydro GE 650W 80+Gold
I've noticed a slight CPU bottleneck since upgrading to the 3060 Ti. The 1660 Super was a place holder when I first built but the GPU crisis moved me forward a generation further than expected. Now I'm motivated to look at a better CPU option and I'm hoping to get the most out of the AM4 platform that I have.
I've done lots of research but can't find specific answers to specific hardware... and I can't say I understand everything I research. I've narrowed down my options to either a 5600X or a 5800X.
Naturally, I'd prefer the 5800X. But I'm concerned about the mobo vrms (which I don't understand well) and the increased power draw over the 5600X (or current 3600).
Can anyone offer some insight, specifically regarding the MSI B450 Gaming Plus Max's vrms and it's ability to handle a 5800X?
I mostly use my rig for gaming but I've looked at some 3D rendering and would prefer the option to push the system a bit in that regard. Also, I had problems with my current R5 3600 running HOT when I built it and had to upgrade from the stock cooler. It's my understanding that the 5800X also runs hot, maybe even hotter. This is a major concern for me. My research shows that the R5 5600X runs even cooler than the 3600 in many cases - more to muddle my decision.
I also have questions about my RAM. I'm also looking at purchasing an additional 2x8GB kit to increase to 32GB. BUT am I correct in understanding that 5000 series' sweet spot is 3600 speed?
Would it be in my system's better interest to upgrade to DDR4 3600 with the 5000 series cpu? I would prefer to stick with the G.Skill Brand but I've noticed that MSI's compatibility page does not list G.Skill DDR4 3600. In fact, it doesn't seem to list ANY DDR4 3600 as being compatible in conjunction with RX-5xxx cpus.
Would DDR4 3600 RAM even work on my MSI B450 Gaming Plus Max?
My instinct tells me to play it safe, go with the 65W chip and 3200 RAM and not push anything. But maybe I'm being overly cautious.
I hear some giving assurances regarding the 5800X and mobos like the B450 Tomahawk. But I'm not sure my Gaming Plus Max is in that category.
I'd love to hear more experienced builder's thoughts on my dilemma.
I expect many to recommend just waiting for the AM5 socket, which I'm considering. But it looks like it's going to be an expensive, multi-component upgrade and, again, I'd like to get as far as I can with this AM4 setup. It's only 2 yrs old. And I also expect some to recommend buying a B500 series mobo to which I can only say... I don't want to? I can afford a reasonable upgrade here but I'm still trying to be budget conscious.
THANKS! I'm looking forward to your input!
I'm considering upgrading my 1st build (May 2020):
MSI B450 Gaming Plus Max
Ryzen 5 3600
Arctic Freezer 34 Esports Duo CPU Cooler
MSI 1660 Super Ventus XS OC - recently upgraded to - Gigabyte 3060 Ti Aorus Elite
G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2X8GB) DDR4 3200
Crucial P1 500GB 3D NAND NVME M.2
Crucial MX500 1TB SSD
WD Blue 1TB HDD
FSP Hydro GE 650W 80+Gold
I've noticed a slight CPU bottleneck since upgrading to the 3060 Ti. The 1660 Super was a place holder when I first built but the GPU crisis moved me forward a generation further than expected. Now I'm motivated to look at a better CPU option and I'm hoping to get the most out of the AM4 platform that I have.
I've done lots of research but can't find specific answers to specific hardware... and I can't say I understand everything I research. I've narrowed down my options to either a 5600X or a 5800X.
Naturally, I'd prefer the 5800X. But I'm concerned about the mobo vrms (which I don't understand well) and the increased power draw over the 5600X (or current 3600).
Can anyone offer some insight, specifically regarding the MSI B450 Gaming Plus Max's vrms and it's ability to handle a 5800X?
I mostly use my rig for gaming but I've looked at some 3D rendering and would prefer the option to push the system a bit in that regard. Also, I had problems with my current R5 3600 running HOT when I built it and had to upgrade from the stock cooler. It's my understanding that the 5800X also runs hot, maybe even hotter. This is a major concern for me. My research shows that the R5 5600X runs even cooler than the 3600 in many cases - more to muddle my decision.
I also have questions about my RAM. I'm also looking at purchasing an additional 2x8GB kit to increase to 32GB. BUT am I correct in understanding that 5000 series' sweet spot is 3600 speed?
Would it be in my system's better interest to upgrade to DDR4 3600 with the 5000 series cpu? I would prefer to stick with the G.Skill Brand but I've noticed that MSI's compatibility page does not list G.Skill DDR4 3600. In fact, it doesn't seem to list ANY DDR4 3600 as being compatible in conjunction with RX-5xxx cpus.
Would DDR4 3600 RAM even work on my MSI B450 Gaming Plus Max?
My instinct tells me to play it safe, go with the 65W chip and 3200 RAM and not push anything. But maybe I'm being overly cautious.
I hear some giving assurances regarding the 5800X and mobos like the B450 Tomahawk. But I'm not sure my Gaming Plus Max is in that category.
I'd love to hear more experienced builder's thoughts on my dilemma.
I expect many to recommend just waiting for the AM5 socket, which I'm considering. But it looks like it's going to be an expensive, multi-component upgrade and, again, I'd like to get as far as I can with this AM4 setup. It's only 2 yrs old. And I also expect some to recommend buying a B500 series mobo to which I can only say... I don't want to? I can afford a reasonable upgrade here but I'm still trying to be budget conscious.
THANKS! I'm looking forward to your input!
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