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The Windows 11 minimum system requirements page also points to this list of CPUs. Expand the processors section, then follow the "list of approved CPUs" link.

This then takes you to the same list of processors as cited in this article. Barring another list of minimum supported processors specifically for non-OEM systems, this would indicate that this is the official support list.
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Does this mean that current 9th Gen Intel systems, running Win 11, will or will not be supported with the next and subsequent levels of Win 11 Upgrades?
 
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Does this mean that current 9th Gen Intel systems, running Win 11, will or will not be supported with the next and subsequent levels of Win 11 Upgrades?
We are reaching out to Microsoft for clarification. However, I don't think Microsoft would issue an update to a system that doesn't support it.
 
Not supported is not the same as won't work. May just mean untested so you are on your own and try at your own risk.

When Microsoft went from Win8 to Win8.1, all of the pre-AM2 Athlon 64s on DDR quit working on 64-bit, but could still run 32-bit Win8.1. Something to do with CMPXCHG16b or PrefetchW suddenly being required.
 
Juts more dirty tricks by Microsoft, if not on the list of approved CPUs, then people looking for cheap compatible cpus' to upgrade too, will not use them or risk complicating their W11 installs and of course more perfectly good and in some case powerful cpus going to landfill early to satisfy the need for American greed and profit.
 
My opinion is Intel is to be blame as Intel has stop support for Intel 8th/9th gen platform for
many years now. Intel 10th gen onwards till today there are still support especially BIOS and security update.
However even if it is not on the list doesn't mean it won't work.

If anyone take a look at the Win 7/8.1 supported CPU list in that page, surprising Intel earlier gen CPU
are not mentioned like Intel 2nd, 3rd and 4th gen.
Does this mean Win 7 cannot work on these CPU?

I think this support list is more of which platform remain supported in coming years.
Intel 8th/9th gen there are still many using such PC including myself.
The platform support has cease many years back unless Intel decide to support it.

Which I highly doubt they will as they will expect users to upgrade to a new PC for Win 11.
Which is why AMD Ryzen is much popular by most, AM4 platform depsite it's age.
AM4 Platform will continue to be supported and some users prefer to get/build a new PC
with it.
 
Intel's 8th, 9th, and 10th Gen processors are absent from the Windows 11 24H2 official support list.

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Really hoping these will be supported. I have a laptop with an 8th Gen 6-core i7 32GB RAM and an NVidia 2080. It happily runs Civ7, MS Flight Sim 2024, Forza Motorsport and Assetto Corsa Evo, all at high detail levels!
Would hate to be forced into an early upgrade by Windows!
I'm already running 24H2 and have been on Windows 11 since the initial Insider Program, so don't see any reason why it should be a problem.
 
For the home user even if Microsoft is moving the 8th to 10 gen CPU to unofficial Windows 11 we will still work.

With a move like this is where moving forward in the business world or for that matter if you run a business or professional suite of programs at home or office you might be restricted to only using a valid Microsoft approved CPU .

We already deal with this with CAD programs where your program has worked just fine and one bump with an update and your old GPU is no longer valid. You need a new card or try to dodge the CAD update.

If anything we need to at least be aware of this Microsoft move.

This also opens up the door for Microsoft when and if Windows 12 comes out they already benched the 8th to 10 gen on Windows 11 so those will never be considered as supported by then. Microsoft will have already did a clean break on Windows 11.

This is where I would be stressing if I were in the IT department with a small business and this move could in the worse possible " theoretical " license scenario come to play with an unapproved 8th thru 10th gen CPU.

If anything this is Microsoft conditioning / grooming us for there untold future business portfolio of OS sales into the great unknown.

For the most part I'm not going to stress on this subject as many have proved just because the CPU is not on the official list Windows 11 still works.
 
I think the system wanted to guarantee is directx 12, secure boot and the TPM module for keys. But that is also possible on gen 8-10 cpus.

The only difference I see is that some 8-10 gen platforms are CIF/MBR that UEFI is an option while the newer ones are EFI/UEFI only. Which if you wanted to set up a dual boot you have to know how to edit the EFI boot pointer manually as Microsoft write protects this from the Linux install.
 
The only difference I see is that some 8-10 gen platforms are CIF/MBR that UEFI is an option while the newer ones are EFI/UEFI only
Excellent point. Another mental tool to throw in the toolbox of reasoning of how to navigate between parts , changing Windows and the occasional new set of CPU instructions AKA AVX 1-2 .

Okay maybe not exactly new instruction but in the last couple of years while it sat idle for the most part it's now in play.
 
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Consider yourselves lucky. 24H2 is a disaster dumpster fire. Broken stuff around each corner and not consistently either. For example, pretty important too. If you have Windows Hello for example, you're not getting into Safe Mode without the bypass shell command or had the foresight to enable Hello password bypass. So if your GPU driver is bad and don't have onboard, good luck.
 
Consider yourselves lucky. 24H2 is a disaster dumpster fire. Broken stuff around each corner and not consistently either. For example, pretty important too. If you have Windows Hello for example, you're not getting into Safe Mode without the bypass shell command or had the foresight to enable Hello password bypass. So if your GPU driver is bad and don't have onboard, good luck.
I really don't understand the affinity of the computing sector embracing Microsoft products since they always seem to produce a poor product.

I mitigated almost all of my computing to Linux and did not go back. Not only things run 10-30% faster, I don't have to be exposed to built in web advertising and news propaganda.

The remaining stuff I run on a windows server because it doesn't have all that consumer junk installed. I find it interesting that some video cards don't have windows server drivers, because they have to use stable timing programming that they can't achieve with their overclocked GPUs that can't maintain a steady clock speed.
 
I do not understand why you all are looking at this purely from a hardware perspective. This is definitely from the software/firmware perspective. Intel is moving these CPUs to legacy support. If there are no guarantees for timely fixes or no fixes at all at software/firmware/bios/microcode/whatever level from Intel to fix bugs or security issues that appear when new features (AI rubbish or otherwise) arrive, or when new security threats appear, Microsoft is right that they too should drop support for the same hardware. Blame Intel for losing their way for too many years to the point they have to cut their losses like this. You people are clinging too much to the past. The fact is right now, security is too much pain in the butt and "legacy" hardware holding you back because of problems related to compatibility that cannot be solved because the hardware manufactrer ggwped should not exist.
 
I really don't understand the affinity of the computing sector embracing Microsoft products since they always seem to produce a poor product.

I mitigated almost all of my computing to Linux and did not go back. Not only things run 10-30% faster, I don't have to be exposed to built in web advertising and news propaganda.

The remaining stuff I run on a windows server because it doesn't have all that consumer junk installed. I find it interesting that some video cards don't have windows server drivers, because they have to use stable timing programming that they can't achieve with their overclocked GPUs that can't maintain a steady clock speed.
  • Because for the average person (not the ones just browsing the internet and reading email), Linux is finicky, not user friendly and breaks if you look at it wrong.
  • Choice is good but there are too many choices thus undoubtedly some people looking to switch got overwhelmed by the choices and decided not too.
  • I haven't used Linux in years but Nvidia drivers were always a problem in the past.
  • Tons of software doesn't exist for Linux and has no alternatives
  • No drivers? Good luck.
  • Saw recently Linux got people banned in certain game(s) and support removed subsequently.
Progress is being made but not fast enough. It's been sitting idly by for decades not pushing innovation to win users over. Most notibly gamers, who were only swayed when Steam took the initiative but then refer to previous point.
 
Microsoft is right that they too should drop support for the same hardware. Blame Intel for losing their way for too many years to the point they have to cut their losses like this.
That is a very valid point but us as consumers have to look at it on the flip side.

If we just focus on Intel's 10 gen CPU that launched at the end of 2019-2020 that's still just 4 1/2 years ago.

If a family had a child at that same time the child is just that still a child. 4 1/2 years old.

If you bought a new car your still paying it off from 2020.

But were groomed that in that same 4 1/2 years your parts for your PC are ancient.

We used to have at least a full cycle of Windows with the parts we installed Windows on , we even depending on the speed of our old parts also got some life moving forward on a new OS not always but possible.

Back than I did get excite about getting all new parts to go with the latest Windows, but now over the past few years when you SEE the cycle you start to notice if I do buy a hot rod top of the line PC in two years it's time to scrap it a do it all over again.

Windows 11 came out in 2021 with official support CPU list for the 8th -10th gen CPU we should at least get to Windows 11 end of run than not be on the Windows 12 official CPU list in the future.

Intel releases a new gen of CPU's every year. I could see an OS manufacture wanting there product to only be valid thru a two cycle hardware cycle in the not so distant future.

Apple has did it that way for years and that was the appeal to be on Microsoft Windows to be freedom of choice.

To be fair it's the whole industry.

OEM PC manufactures have now made there power supplies non standard with not only wiring to motherboard but in the shape of the power supply. Most people scrap what is complicated, It pushes future sales.

Our GPU's as games are moving to RayTracing on as requirement. It pushes future sales.

It's a win, win for Intel because they didn't bench the 8th -10gen CPU's Microsoft did. It pushes future sales for Intel.

And in the very end Microsoft also get future sales regardless of Windows being free to use if you don't want to buy a license.

How many future OEM computers will be sold where Windows will get paid for there OS as part of the OEM sale of a new computer just by knocking off a couple of gen CPU's.

I do respect progress as we move forward with innovations but not when they offer nothing and we are groomed as there necessary evil's to protect us from ourselves.
It pushes future sales.


Freedom of choice is becoming an allusion
 
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  • Because for the average person (not the ones just browsing the internet and reading email), Linux is finicky, not user friendly and breaks if you look at it wrong.
  • Choice is good but there are too many choices thus undoubtedly some people looking to switch got overwhelmed by the choices and decided not too.
  • I haven't used Linux in years but Nvidia drivers were always a problem in the past.
  • Tons of software doesn't exist for Linux and has no alternatives
  • No drivers? Good luck.
  • Saw recently Linux got people banned in certain game(s) and support removed subsequently.
Progress is being made but not fast enough. It's been sitting idly by for decades not pushing innovation to win users over. Most notibly gamers, who were only swayed when Steam took the initiative but then refer to previous point.
While some of your points are fair to a degree I suggest you give Linux a spin again. I'm not suggesting you switch, but have a look, you should be pleasantly surprised at how far it has come in the last few years.
 
Because for the average person (not the ones just browsing the internet and reading email), Linux is finicky, not user friendly and breaks if you look at it wrong.
Its been a long time since I've experienced any programs crashing. But some distributions are better than others with this. I've been using Ubuntu and Debain for years and never ran into instability issues compared to the microsoft update machine that breaks itself after an update every so often.

  • I haven't used Linux in years but Nvidia drivers were always a problem in the past.
  • Tons of software doesn't exist for Linux and has no alternatives
  • No drivers? Good luck.
NVidia is getting better with supporting Linux. Even though I have ATI & AMD video cards, I have set up machines that had NVidia cards and did not have a problem. But I have heard of that issue on distributions that do not have vendor hardware update channels like fedora/alpine/mint/selinux.

There is a lot of software, but certain types of software don't have alternatives because either they refuse to make one or their program is a dot net program and would have to run in a windows emulation so it can use that os graphic objects library.

Drivers are not an issues with real hardware and if it was the people who made the hardware is at fault and usually there is better hardware out there that is better than theirs.
 
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Back than I did get excite about getting all new parts to go with the latest Windows, but now over the past few years when you SEE the cycle you start to notice if I do buy a hot rod top of the line PC in two years it's time to scrap it a do it all over again.

That is why I look at stuff with scrutiny and see if people having issues.
But personally, I really don't like motherboards that have wifi because it instantly gets outdated when that technology becomes obsolete.

Also, processor go in a 5 year cycle of evolution and thier first breakthroughs always have some sort of issue or another, AMD or Intel. So when I look at a new cpu I look at a previous well developed abd supported version than something I have to flash, or undervolt or some other thing that should have been taken care of.

I typically use a computer for 20 years before getting rid of it. But I noticed the only ones that last that long is the ones I build. OEMs seem to use budget parts that don't last long, and they have a tendency to put in low end slower hardware when they build. Especially memory and drives.
 
Its been a long time since I've experienced any programs crashing. But some distributions are better than others with this. I've been using Ubuntu and Debain for years and never ran into instability issues compared to the microsoft update machine that breaks itself after an update every so often.


NVidia is getting better with supporting Linux. Even though I have ATI & AMD video cards, I have set up machines that had NVidia cards and did not have a problem. But I have heard of that issue on distributions that do not have vendor hardware update channels like fedora/alpine/mint/selinux.

There is a lot of software, but certain types of software don't have alternatives because either they refuse to make one or their program is a dot net program and would have to run in a windows emulation so it can use that os graphic objects library.

Drivers are not an issues with real hardware and if it was the people who made the hardware is at fault and usually there is better hardware out there that is better than theirs.
You literally blamed everything on everyone else for Linux not working with it. Fact is Linux isn't an out of the box, plug and play experience. Until it is, people won't switch.

You also failed to acknowledge the entire gaming situation. Wine was making a little progress back in the day but that champagne lost it's fizz.

Valve is the only reason games run on Linux outside of the comparatively small that natively support it. Gaming is not a priority for the Linux community of developers nor is it upstream. The primary focus is the OS itself. Which again is fine but shows that Linux is too fragmented, even by your own statement above.

If Linux were to ever actually capture any meaningful market share, it will be Steam OS and Ubuntu that make up the numbers based on gamers and non-gamers respectively. Other distros will be a small in comparison.

There's a long way to go. If you like Linux, that's fine, I'm not dismissing your opinion. I don't like Windows but don't like Linux either. Windows is the more confident option after the initial house cleaning of telemetry and bloat for me.