Intel Core 2 Duo slow!

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Hi,

i have a Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2x 1.86GHz, 1GB ram, 7600GT GFX etc. and a friend has
the same pc but WITH AMD 3500+ (no dual core) and rainbow six: Vegas(with 1.03 patch) works better on his than on my machine, i looked at his task manager and CPU usage is 100% and game consumes about 450MB of RAM but on my machine cpu usage is about 55% and ONLY about 150MB RAM.

We both have win XP SP2

Can anybody explain it why it is so?!
 
What do you have running in the background? Do you have the most recent drivers? Try a degfrag of your HD and see if that makes a difference.
 
Hi,

i have a Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2x 1.86GHz, 1GB ram, 7600GT GFX etc. and a friend has
the same pc but WITH AMD 3500+ (no dual core) and rainbow six: Vegas(with 1.03 patch) works better on his than on my machine, i looked at his task manager and CPU usage is 100% and game consumes about 450MB of RAM but on my machine cpu usage is about 55% and ONLY about 150MB RAM.

We both have win XP SP2

Can anybody explain it why it is so?!
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Most probably 'cause Vegas is one of the worst coded pieces of crap in the world.

Great game however.
 
there are no other programs running in backround. I just cant understand why any game wont use all power of my CPU, its always 50%.

Should i buy 1GB RAM more??? Will then my CPU be fully used.

What about Win XP x64, will it be faster when i install it.
 
Because the game does do much with dual cores so it's mainly using only 1 of the cores so it only takes 50% of the cpu. If you had a quad core it would only take up 25%.
 
there are no other programs running in backround. I just cant understand why any game wont use all power of my CPU, its always 50%.
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It seems that Rainbow Six Vegas is a single threaded games just like most games out on the market. Therefore it will only use 1 CPU core to run the game. Since the Athlon 64 3500+ is a single core CPU, it is natural that it uses 100% of the CPU. The E6300 is duo core so the game will only use one of the two cores, or 50%. There is no program out there and there is nothing you can do to force a single threaded program to use more than one CPU core.

The amount of RAM seems odd, perhaps your friend has more RAM than you do? Is he running something else in the background? Are the two of you playing the same level?
 
Well Rainbow Six Vegas does not take advantage of dual core CPUs, and dual cores may hurt performance in the game if it's really coded as poorly as everyone says. Chances are though, the difference you're noticing comes from the different RAM, or videocards you may each have.
 
I think the problem is that windows is trying to do load balancing among the cores, and since the application was not developed to run on multiple cores, this is slowing it down (context switch etc).
I'd try:
1) set the affinity for your game to only 1 of the cores
2) install this patch (Hotfix for dual cores) in case you don't have it already.
Hope this helps.
 
Hi,

i have a Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2x 1.86GHz, 1GB ram, 7600GT GFX etc. and a friend has
the same pc but WITH AMD 3500+ (no dual core) and rainbow six: Vegas(with 1.03 patch) works better on his than on my machine, i looked at his task manager and CPU usage is 100% and game consumes about 450MB of RAM but on my machine cpu usage is about 55% and ONLY about 150MB RAM.

We both have win XP SP2

Can anybody explain it why it is so?!
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:?: How much better and in what ie framerates, loading, etc?

Also remember that the AMD 3500+ CPU's are still relatively powerful and built/designed to suit those types of games.

It sounds like a ram problem to me.

The faster machine has more info loaded in ram, this has to be better in my opinion.

Still, I would have thought the E6300 would make up for this.
 
We both have the same GFX, same ram (kingmax 1GB 667MHz) but different CPUs. On his machine it doesnt work much better, but a just little bit, so i asked myself why it is so. I know that my CPU is much better because it works with 50% CPU usage and his 100% on R6: Vegas.

I hope that a game developer will make a game with multi core support.

And is my windows using both cores? Well i have 2 CPU usage graphs

 
you also have a mismatch in your ram,
too keep everything smooth in your pc core 2 duo needs ddr2 800 to match the FSB so there is no bottleneck, that would certainly bring performance up a bit
 
There is not RAM mismatch.
The CPU is a 6300 which runs with a FSB of 1066 by default.
This requires DDR2-533 RAM.

His DDR2-667 RAM is more than sufficient and would actually down-shift to 533 when he boots his system. DDR2-800 would add nothing except cost and simply downshift to 533 as well.

The DD2-800 may even be slower if the memory timings are not as tight since the defaults may be more conservative to allow the RAM to reach higher FSB speeds.
 
Yup thanks, just looked it up myself and saw your post when I was going to edit mine because I DID in fact remember AM2 after I posted it. I obviously suck and you are great.

Anyway.

I'd get the dual-core patches for XP and see how that works.
 
since your processor is the slowest core 2 duo it might just be that the 3500+ slightly outperforms it in that application, you might consider overclocking it to maximize performance because the 6300 is a bit weak for gaming.
 
So is that true that my CPU is running only @ 1.86 GHz. If its so than its not bad becasue the 3500+ is running @ 2.2 GHz or something and still mine is not slower (i think only with rainbow six: vegas is his a little bit faster). And my CPU is faster with WINRAR than his and usage is only 50% and on his its 100%. So i hope that in near future my CPU will be fully used.

Loading on Warcraft 3 is faster on mine for about 1 sec than on his, and W3 doesnt use both cores.
 
So is that true that my CPU is running only @ 1.86 GHz. If its so than its not bad becasue the 3500+ is running @ 2.2 GHz or something and still mine is not slower (i think only with rainbow six: vegas is his a little bit faster). And my CPU is faster with WINRAR than his and usage is only 50% and on his its 100%. So i hope that in near future my CPU will be fully used.

Loading on Warcraft 3 is faster on mine for about 1 sec than on his, and W3 doesnt use both cores.
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the 3500 is a great single core cpu so it could just be faster in that app but if you do a slight and safe oc say to 2.6ghz then you will notice some major improvments

good luck
 
since your processor is the slowest core 2 duo it might just be that the 3500+ slightly outperforms it in that application, you might consider overclocking it to maximize performance because the 6300 is a bit weak for gaming.
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Uh, no. It's true that the E6300 is the slowest Core 2 Duo but it is nevertheless very fast and should perform better than the 3500+. There is no real need to overclock.
Scarface: Clock speed isn't the sole factor in determining performance. The Core 2 architecture is more efficient, so performs better, even at lower clockspeeds, than Pentium 4 and K8.
EDIT: That said, the 3500+ is, as said above, a great single-core CPU. My opinion, however, is that the E6300 is superior.
 
Hi,

i have a Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2x 1.86GHz, 1GB ram, 7600GT GFX etc. and a friend has
the same pc but WITH AMD 3500+ (no dual core) and rainbow six: Vegas(with 1.03 patch) works better on his than on my machine, i looked at his task manager and CPU usage is 100% and game consumes about 450MB of RAM but on my machine cpu usage is about 55% and ONLY about 150MB RAM.

We both have win XP SP2

Can anybody explain it why it is so?!
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A 2.2 GHz Athon 64 has an 17% advantage in GHz compared to to C2D 6300.
Also clock 4 clock in gaming 4MB cache core 2 duos are up to 10-30% faster than Athlons.

Taking into considerations that the game is single threaded the 3500+ might easily be faster without the game being poorly written.

So Core 2 Duo can be slower than Athlon 3500+ in single threaded applications? Definitely !!! and it is in allot of them!
 
OK thank all of you for your replies.

Iam happy now, because i thought i have bought a crappy CPU. Iam happy that it is not so.

I will buy 1GB of ram more.
 
OK thank all of you for your replies.

Iam happy now, because i thought i have bought a crappy CPU. Iam happy that it is not so.

I will buy 1GB of ram more.
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It's not crappy. The games uses half of it that's why it can be beaten by an 3500+. Add the overclocking potential and you got yourself a very good deal.

Your CPU competes at 50% of it's potential and still can match a higher clocked single core AMD CPU, that ain't bad.

If you were expecting orders of magnitude performance over other processors ... well...welcome to the real world.
 
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