Intel Core i7-7700K Retest: More Oveclocking, Less Heat

[Crashman]

As a high end builder for a living I let the manufacturers pay for the marketing.. because that really is all I see here! Let's see.. I'm gonna put a 7700k on a 270 chipset and.. do what with it that I can't do do with a 170?

How about at least being honest about what the article said? The article specifically said NOT to upgrade your recent platform because the gains were too small. Now, you see how nicely I avoided calling you a liar? Instead, I'll just call your post "counter-marketing". And this is the same type of gentle language used, rather than anger or derision, in the article.

 

[alidan]

That is part of what worries me, it is likely that with no CPU support, we will end up with AM4 boards with no windows 7 drivers

Windows itself has enough baked in generic drivers to at least boot up. That is not going to change any time soon. If your mboard mfr doesn't have the drivers for older Windows on their site, you can either download OS specific drivers from the individual component mfr sites, or crack open the mboard driver packages and extract the drivers yourself for manual installation. However, I'm not sure how you plan to blame mfrs for not having drivers for their tech that support OSes that went out of mainstream support before their products ever reached market. Either way, stop acting like this is just Intel and MS intentionally trying to screw over customers. It's not true.

as well as Microsoft potentially going with a similar plan to what they had originally wanted for skylake, where they wanted to withhold certain security updates if they would cause compatibility issues with skylake.

You realize this is a total catch-22 for MS, right? They release a patch that's causes instabilities due to hardware incompatibility, they'll get harangued for once again having the BSOD show up every ten seconds. They don't release the secutrity patches, so as not to bork their consumes' machines, and they'll get lambasted for still having "the most unsecure OS in the history of ever."

These kinds of expectations, that a company should cater to everyone's whims, regardless how difficult, expensive, or time consuming it is, smacks heavily of entitlement. If you hate what MS is doing, fine. Use another OS or go prove them wrong and make your own. MS doesn't owe you or anyone anything. Same goes for Intel, AMD, NVidia, and just about every other company. If you're not paying them for a continual service contract, stop complaining that they're not giving you free crap.

entitlement? no, I paid 150$ for something I don't want because the computer would be effectively useless without it, they have a borderline monopoly if you are not willing to move to tablets, linux, or macs. I would love to give microsoft the finger and use something else, but I can't.

And oh, whats this? They had 3 newer oses sense windows 7, and they couldn't get people to go to them willingly even when given to them for free? Something is telling me they are all crap and they want us to move off the good os, you know what, I'd be willing to pay an extra 100-200$ just to stay on windows 7 and know hardware will work, why fix what clearly isn't broke?

It looks like just to make sure my computer doesn't break any given update I will have to either pay microsoft around 100$ a year for enterprise edition 10, or figure out how to firewall everything related to microsoft, oh the joys of the new oses they created, not only a telemetry filled malware of an os, but now a potential gun in a toddlers hand to boot, yes windows 7 is so outdated and broken i had to take the gun out of an adult's hand that understand 'put the gun down' and give it to a toddler who may shoot itself.