Intel Core i7-875K And Core i5-655K Battle Beyond 4 GHz

[djdarko321]

[citation][nom]silverblue[/nom]All of the above is copied directly from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSE4 - pardon me but you can see the irony.Other than that, we're in agreement about instruction sets. Bulldozer should address that deficiency.[/citation]
http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/schema-validation-with-intel-streaming-simd-extensions-4-intel-sse4/

http://software.intel.com/en-us/avx/

http://developer.amd.com/cpu/SSE5/Pages/default.aspx

http://www.cpu-world.com/Glossary/S/SSE4a.html

http://www.cpu-world.com/Glossary/S/SSE4.1.html

http://www.cpu-world.com/Glossary/S/SSE4.2.html

bulldozer will only be implementing sse5 AVX (Intel's version) and none of the others listed. so they will still be VERY different as to how they handle the data coming in to be processed. basically like a shrunk PII x6 with a few optimizations and sse5.

 

[djdarko321]

if wiki is good enough for Toms lolz i guess its usable XD

 

[djdarko321]

and MAC isnt going to get off the high performance horse of Intel, they may be wanting to make cheaper systems for those that cant afford em, w AMD inside ...... crippled MAC's basically and the higher end ones ofc w Intel still.

Only if Intel would license ALL their instruction sets/tech to AMD lmao

 

[silverblue]

Something you might be interested in:

http://blogs.amd.com/developer/tag/simd/

As far as I can see, there's at least two points to consider:

1) AVX is a replacement for all previous versions of SSE whereas SSE5 is in addition to them. AMD will be required to implement AVX as well as any instructions in the SSE5 spec that Intel hasn't dealt with. AMD's approach is arguably more friendly to developers as they're not ballsing up the old instruction sets. AVX has several advantages over SSE5 and AMD has decided to support AVX, not just for compatibility and functionality but in order to stay competitive as well as possibly close the gap to Intel even further.
2) Intel are (possibly) stifling competition by being heavy-handed not only with the FMA spec, but with the opcode map ( http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=203&threadid=98392 ). You might argue that they have a right to do this. Of course, a revamp of x86 could possibly solve this, but in what year?

 

[djdarko321]

yes XOP w SSE5 is AMD's questionable answer to AVX. but soon, as we agreed, Intels greed is gonna run short soon, and exactly, what year? (meaning incompatibility between the 2 cpu's Intel AMD) If they got off the x86 (very doubtful since thats every one bit of the software market and would have to have 2 systems to run the diff software, and never with each other)it would change the markets and thus cripple Intel. (wishes)Giving us a more technological future than we have atm.

But trying to forsee the future, especially when Intel's money is involved w all devs, WE WILL NEVER KNOW UNTIL IT HAPPENS. That will be a def party/bbq day when those 2 release Bulldozer and Sandy Bridge.
Glad to see and meet someone else that knows whats up. (points at Silverblue) Big Ups bruv!

 

[Dax corrin]

It's pretty clear that all of these chips OC'd CAN play Crysis.

 

[djdarko321]

[citation][nom]Dax Corrin[/nom]It's pretty clear that all of these chips OC'd CAN play Crysis.[/citation]

yes even a pentium dual core (not the flop pentium D) cpu can.... but to what extent is your answer. theyre showing a 6 core AMD Flagship cpu OC'd and comparing them to a lower ended MAX QUAD CORE cpu socket, Intel's 1156 w unlocked multi's if u forgot the title of the article. XD

 

[Guest]

Good looking CPU, lame chipset. I'll wait for LGA 1366 before I jump in.

 

[djdarko321]

[citation][nom]chavo360[/nom]Good looking CPU, lame chipset. I'll wait for LGA 1366 before I jump in.[/citation]

w8 for it? lmao its been out for quite some time now. or if ur referring to unlocked multi cpu's on 1366.... very doubtful since those OC VERY WELL and scream as is. only the 965, 975 and 980X have unlocked multi's on that socket. but ANY 1366 cpu will chew thru anything at stock. especially when u OC them, it = GAME OVER lmao

 

[Magnus]

I would have loved to see a game that was running on a single thread and see how much more power the I5 665K with the increased clockspeed has over a I5 750

 

[djdarko321]

well duh lol u said it "single threaded apps" so no matter the cores it wouldnt matter on that situation but single threaded apps are diminishing by the moment

 

[razercultmember1]

meh 930 F.T.W.

 

[Guest]

I consider AMD to have a better product here since to get these result, you don't have to buy their very last combo of ram/motherboard... AM3 Socket is an "old" socket whereas the iSeries just came to life...

 

[silverblue]

AM3 came out after S1366, however 1366 is for performance parts only and the cost highlights that. AM3 isn't the ideal board for Bulldozer either as there's a revision 2 model designed just for that purpose. 1156 may end up being completely replaced by 1155 in time but the same could be said for AM3 being replaced by AM3r2.

AM3's advantage is its cheapness; after all, it's only an evolutionary step up from AM2+. However, it's not really an old socket, nor will it truly live a long time, however it should certainly outlast 1156.