What difference does it make? Im not comparing, im just stating facts. The 13900k was hitting 180w in that game. The 14900ks I have no idea but wouldn't surprise me if it went above 250, probably more.
You are taking a graph made on paint over actual in game footage.
Ar you asking this seriously? As I asked: where is the testing conditions? For all we know, that 7950X was using PBO or some heavy OC underneath? I tried to find the specifics, but could not find them.
Well, that was a QUERY and a legit one, in a game that I actually played and logged the power usage and temp, running all P cores 5.7Ghz and all E cores 4.4Ghz I saw it consumes ~100W, so as any one with any acceptable IQ knows that no wonder CPU can use close to 0W and do a job as a recent chip using 100W, there is very close to zero chance that it can have the 165w reduction, especially that the 14900K was capped at 253W, so? why that isn't valid? even sub the 100W with your the last of us figure at 200W, the question is still valid
Im quoting TPU cause people - just like you demonstrated - trust it. TPU has lots of errors in lots of their data. Big errors. Like, as big as 70% errors.
The 165w reduction is supposedly in the new warhammer game. They might have measured it during shader compilation cause yeah, in game it doesn't make sense to go from 200 to 35.
Good, so you agreed that the figure looks like it makes no sense at all, case closed
So you said that doesn't make sense, yet when others question the same thing with valid arguement you jump out and argue, good logic
They can depending on the game, and Space Marine 2 had some absolutely brutal CPU usage when it launched (don't know if it still does).
I've been running a nice whisper-quiet box for like omg ten years now, but when it goes turbo or when the graphics go turbo secondary fans turn on, or something.
Tbh unless you use it in a big case or open air with the big noctua fabless heat sink, the low power mobile chips likely can’t be real fan less IMO, the heat (powe) density of modern chips are so high that the days of 8086 bare chip is long gone
If you get a case from Streacom/Akasa you can do passive to a decent degree (45W/65W/95W are all on the table pretty easily) but as @bit_user said you have to pay a premium price so you'd likely be looking at $150-400 just for the case. It's never going to be a good fiscal choice, but certainly one which fits the passive niche. Most of the minipcs are based on mobile platforms, but you still have to keep the maximum power consumption under consideration as mobile parts can easily get up to around 100W for AMD and well over 100W for Intel.
Thanks.
Since at least Tremont (introduced 5 years ago), the E-cores have all had far more issue ports than the decoder can sustain. I think it just worked out that splitting them ended up being cheap, so they probably did it to avoid bottlenecking if the instruction mix was too biased towards a certain subset of instructions.
Allegedly there will be, but it won't be a big uplift (Think RPL to RPL-R, not ADL to RPL)
I doubt there’s any difference for this, it is supposed to be meteor lake as 14th gen and arrow lake as 15th, unless they have big issues in the next gen where it is not competitive again it’s likely the 1851 platform will be ended.
I’ve read all the chipsandcheese stuff. I wish he’d made it more clear just how many discrete ALUs Lion Cove has per core, instead of just the number of execution ports.Since at least Tremont (introduced 5 years ago), the E-cores have all had far more issue ports than the decoder can sustain. I think it just worked out that splitting them ended up being cheap, so they probably did it to avoid bottlenecking if the instruction mix was too biased towards a certain subset of instructions.
Regarding Skymont:
To execute instructions, Skymont gets a massive 26 execution ports. Intel explains that by saying that dedicated functionality on each port is better for energy efficiency. ... As for why 8 ALUs, Stephen said “It was cheap to add in terms of area and it helps with the peaks.” The peaks refers to when you have code that has a lot of instructions to crunch through.
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